Kid Attacked in School By Teacher Making $95,202 a year

reply to post by PurpleChiten


Schools in my country don't require security officers, do you know why? This isn't the 1900's we are dealing with a modern society that 'had' ruled out physical discipline within schools, so get your head around that and back to the future. I was a violent student when I was younger and teachers voided that violence with an education. Think about that.

Stop assuming primal physical punishment is the key to disciplining children.

This is my last reply to you, because you are a circles person, I don't want to go in circles.

The schools aren't the problem, the parents are. Of course nobody wants to hear that, they want to blame someone else. Who spends more time with the child than anyone else? The parent. Who influences the child the most? The parent. Who is the soul contact from birth to time to start school? The parent.
The responsibility needs to be put where it belongs, on the parent. The schools are NOT responsible for raising your child for you, YOU are responsible for that. And what happens when that's brought to light? Well, the media like faux news makes shure to get the attention of the parents who ARE doing their job, getting them riled up, then pushing them to go after the schools instead of pushing them to go after the other parents who aren't doing their job.

voices.washingtonpost.com...

the teachers' unions. It is indifferent, lousy parents -- parents who somehow never fail, while in the dopey lexicon we've all adopted, schools can and teachers can and principles can. Never parents, though.

www.examiner.com...

But the other side is that when the school staff is doing all that is humanly possible to assist a child, there must be follow-through at home. Parents must understand that they are accountable and responsible, along with the school, and along with the student himself, for the academic and social progress of that child.

www.psychologytoday.com...


these aren't articles from extremist blogs, they're not from extremist right-winged media outlets, they're from places like the Washington Post and Psychology Today, actual, credible sources instead of sensatinalism that's shown all too often.

ETA: and before you throw a fit, ask yourself something. Has your child ever been in trouble? Has your child ever been treated the way the video shows? Has your child ever had any serious issues? .... if not, then you're probably doing what a parent should do.
Now ask yourself about the kids that go to school with yours and ARE a problem and do have these problems all too often....then look at their parents.... think about it, think long and hard, then you'll clearly see the answer.

Originally posted by Strainz
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

Schools in my country don't require security officers, do you know why? This isn't the 1900's we are dealing with a modern society that 'had' ruled out physical discipline within schools, so get your head around that and back to the future. I was a violent student when I was younger and teachers voided that violence with an education. Think about that.

Stop assuming primal physical punishment is the key to disciplining children.

This is my last reply to you, because you are a circles person, I don't want to go in circles.

edit on 1-7-2012 by Strainz because: Circles, they are everywhere

So you apparently have all the answers... tell us... why are YOU not working in the schools? folks like you like to go on and on about how horrible the teachers are, how they're overpaid, all the rest of it.... tell us, why are YOU not a teacher, why are YOU not working in the schools, why are YOU not helping to educate the children since you apparently have ALL the answers. Shouldn't YOU, the person with all the answers be there on the front lines making sure things go the way they should go?
Here's your chance. Explain to us....

be sure to go to one of the inner city schools, perhaps the one that's in the video so you can get it allllll fixed up and running right since you have all the answers.
I'd give you less than a week before you started asking for corporal punishment to be brought back.

It seems in this age teachers like this are becoming more common, or at least the internet is making it more known. 95k is a lot for a teacher to make also. Teachers around my area start around 40k.

reply to post by PurpleChiten


yeah true that, if the parents are feral sh*ts then the children are usually the same. If there is a child in a school with behavioural problems, the reasons these problems exist will become quite clear upon meeting the parents. Obviously this does not apply to all children, but generally in a lot of cases, parenting or lack of it is what damages the child, not the schools. It should not be the schools responsibility to be the sole educator of children in regards to social and emotional well being. A stable home with well adjusted responsible parents will go a long way when instilling these types of values in a child.

How is his pay relevant in any way?

Originally posted by Guard5002
It seems in this age teachers like this are becoming more common, or at least the internet is making it more known. 95k is a lot for a teacher to make also. Teachers around my area start around 40k.

Once again, he's not a teacher, he was the DEAN of SECURITY, the article outright LIED

WOW....

A lot of people on here supporting a teacher assaulting a child.
Mouthing off or not, he grabbed the kid by the arm, swung him around, and slammed him to a desk.

You guys sure are ready for the coming police state.

No one would touch my child without ending up in the hospital, whether he deserved or not.

Originally posted by yellowsnow
WOW....

A lot of people on here supporting a teacher assaulting a child.

Mouthing off or not, he grabbed the kid by the arm, swung him around, and slammed him to a desk.

You guys sure are ready for the coming police state.

No one would touch my child without ending up in the hospital, whether he deserved or not.

He wasn't a teacher, he was DEAN of SECURITY, the article LIED. He didn't slam the kid into anything, he was trying to restrain him and the kid flung himself all over the place.

Chances are, your child wouldn't go in and threaten to pop a cap in people and be violent like that.... or I would hope not, just as you would hope not.

People need to stop relating things like this back to their own children. Seriously, if you are a part of your child's life and teach them right from wrong, they aren't going to act like the kids in these videos act and are never going to be in that situation. These kids are not like your kids, not even close. They're usually beligerant most of the time, disruptive all of the time, have permanant attitudes, cuss like sailors and treat other people like dirt.
They're nothing like your kids and their parents are nothing like you.
The parents who are so upset are the parents who would never allow their kids to act this way. The article was outright sensationalism meant to get people riled up with outright lies, leaving out the audio, slanting the story to one side and basically trying their best to obscure the truth.

If the teacher, security person (or whatever) made $45,000 instead of $95,000 would that make a difference one way or the other? It's a shame that more and more ATS "Thread Starters" are going out of their way to add sensationalism and unnecessary hype to their headlines. I always believed that those who started ATS discussions had greater integrity than the editors at CBS, NBC, etc..

Oh well, perhaps those who say the entire society is now deteriorating, as the Bible predicted, are correct. I suppose rather than worry about it, each of us should just do what makes us happy in life..while we can.

-cwm

1) What does the teachers pay have anything to do with it ? DENY IGNORANCE
2) This School is for high risk kids with Social behavior issues
3) The teacher ask repeatedly please come back and walk though the metal detecter
4) Why did it take a year when the school year is up to follow this up by the parent.
5) The kids in this SCHOOL ARE FAR FROM being deem socially good citizens

They have IEP sheets and rap sheets has big as my lesson bindings.

DENY IGNORANCE again i have no clue what the OP is trying to get by posting the amount the teacher makes. People like this make me furious and try to distract the reason at hand with other information. This OP will have a great career at FOX.

Originally posted by lordbayfin
1) What does the teachers pay have anything to do with it ? DENY IGNORANCE
2) This School is for high risk kids with Social behavior issues
3) The teacher ask repeatedly please come back and walk though the metal detecter
4) Why did it take a year when the school year is up to follow this up by the parent.
5) The kids in this SCHOOL ARE FAR FROM being deem socially good citizens

They have IEP sheets and rap sheets has big as my lesson bindings.

DENY IGNORANCE again i have no clue what the OP is trying to get by posting the amount the teacher makes. People like this make me furious and try to distract the reason at hand with other information. This OP will have a great career at FOX.

Are you kidding? Do you really think this glorified bouncer is worth 95k of tax payers money. He handled the situation entirely wrong. The kid jumped into a flight or fight response like boys do. I've been in situations like this as a substitute teacher and believe me i wasn't making a lawyers salary. This isn't about right or left, this is about competence.

Originally posted by smyleegrl
I'm a teacher. I want to know where in the US a teacher is making $95,000??!!! I have adv degrees and make a third of that!

In New York City I think they start at around $75,000/year and go up from there. Of course cost of living here is very high, so that $75k is closer to $50k in terms of what you get out of it, and you're probably going to be living in a smaller place no matter what.

But, on the upside you get to live in NYC.

Originally posted by LifeInDeath

Originally posted by smyleegrl
I'm a teacher. I want to know where in the US a teacher is making $95,000??!!! I have adv degrees and make a third of that!

But, on the upside you get to live in NYC.

edit on 7/1/2012 by LifeInDeath because: (no reason given)

Yippee! Does that include the rats?

well at lease the techer isn't white , theres enough race baiting by the media these days .

Wow.
If U.S. teachers are like that when kids are trying to get into school, what are they like when they catch the kids trying to bunk off??????
Double-barrel to the head? Water-boarding?

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


What has the salary of this man has to do with the issue? Does this makes him more or less evil, or is it just some fuel for the fire you are burning here ?

Originally posted by LifeInDeath

Originally posted by smyleegrl
I'm a teacher. I want to know where in the US a teacher is making $95,000??!!! I have adv degrees and make a third of that!

In New York City I think they start at around $75,000/year and go up from there. Of course cost of living here is very high, so that $75k is closer to $50k in terms of what you get out of it, and you're probably going to be living in a smaller place no matter what.

But, on the upside you get to live in NYC.

edit on 7/1/2012 by LifeInDeath because: (no reason given)

That is really a lot of money, I think that the teachers in The Netherlands and other surrounding european country's don't get such a high salary. Why is that so high in the US ?

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


Ooh boy that kid mouthed off and then elbowed the guy. Then he pushed the officer who was trying to take custody. That boy deserves a good ole fashioned a$$ whoopin! You people who think kids dont need discipline are whats wrong with our youth.

PS: I typed this on very small keyboard and my hands are huge so excuse the errors please.

I can't believe people are actually taking the teachers side.

I don't know about you guys but he's a teacher for a reason.A teacher should not EVER put their hands on a student. I read a post where someone said "he needed to defend himself". ARE YOU SERIOUS?! Lol the teacher weights 250 pounds and the kid weights only 116 pounds. Was the student that much of a threat to him that he had to swing him around like a ragdoll? Obviously not.And it doesn't matter if the kid is mouthing off a Real teacher would just dismiss him and send him to the office. I've done it before and you know what my teacher did?
He sent me out the class or sent me to the office.If you think someone has the right to swing someone around like that because of their mouth your wrong in so many ways.This teacher should NEVER and will NEVER get another teaching job. But you know what job he's perfect for? TSA yup that's right.

And about the swing that's a typical sign of get off me notice he swung to the left with his elbow not his fist.Jesus look at all the teacher standing around not helping the poor kid. He did not over react if someone swung me around like that ill be very pissed that's why they couldn't keep him calm because he was filled with anger. I don't know about the generation my mom grew up in or before that but this generation does not take being treated like that as something normal.