Kid Attacked in School By Teacher Making $95,202 a year

reply to post by kazanoom

Am I kidding are you ?
This is about competence you say ?

This is about school safety .SCHOOL SAFETY . The KID wait the TEENAGE MALE avoided the METAL detector and refused to walk though it . The adult all have the safety of the school and other Teenagers in mind.
A) Refusal to walk though a metal in any school in nyc you can not go to class.
B) The child insists on disobey and may as well be carrying something Dangerous that may harm other students or a teacher.
C) No one knows why the kid had issues with not walking though the MD he does not have any learning disabilities. (SO that is not the case)

I am not promoting a political view in any where of my discussion (insult). I am promoting DENY IGNORANCE which surly you didn't notice was this WEBSITES main calling but more and more this website is a breeding grond to promote FAR LEFT OR FAR Right .

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by mikellmikell
I guess I don't see the issue the kid deserved what he got . Don't mouth off because you think your kool

Yeah, shut the hell up and dont have an opinion about how your masters treat you

Great way to prepare kids to go out into the world, pay their tax's, agree with everything the government says and consume consume consume!

[/quotemaybe he was being a disrespectfull little prick and got what he deserved,dont worry,your little saint will probably reward your bleeding heart by stealing your car stereo in the future,but thats ok,you can just buy another one.]

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by lacrimosa

 

I applaud this teacher.

You're applauding a man who looks twice his age, with twice of his life experience, twice the boys weight and who is obviously in a position of authority - And still swings for him. If you cant deal with stroppy teenager's without introducing them to your fist then maybe teaching's not for you.

I really don't understand today's society's attitude that a kid can say anything they want to and not be held accountable for their actions.

This kid could have been held accountable in different ways, for example, suspension? being put on report? Isolation? Physically handling them shows your lack of control over the situation.

If you're being antagonistic a person should have every right to to defend themselves, regardless of the nature of the antagonism.

Regardless of the nature of the antagonism? Wow
Police: "So gang member, tell us why you shot him?"
G.member: "He looked at me funny"

Yeah that's a perfect mentality to employ in schools.

Just because they're a kid doesn't mean they can do whatever they want to without any kind of responsibilities for their actions.

As ive said, there are other ways his behaviour could have been dealt with.

I do not understand this attitude that a kid should be allowed to mouth off at any adult they so wish without having any consequences to their actions.

Because alot of teens have yet to learn how to state their case without sounding self-centred and not aware of the whole picture. They cant help it that their brains are not fully developed and rational like an adults. This is why we dont hold them accountable for some things, like doing totally retarded stuff and mouthing off before they've even considered the situation.

It's crap.
Freedom of speech is one thing, but trying to hurt another person is not free speech.

And getting bashed around by a man twice your size doesn't infringe upon your freedom to disagree with a situation at all does it? The difference here is that the teenager is growing up, mistakes happen. The adult has been there and done all that, he should know better.

Originally posted by yyzyyz123
maybe he was being a disrespectfull little prick and got what he deserved,dont worry,your little saint will probably reward your bleeding heart by stealing your car stereo in the future,but thats ok,you can just buy another one.]

Only if you raise your kid without proper values.

This man is an adult, if he cant handle stroppy teenagers with a bad attitude then maybe he shouldn't be working with kids?

But lets not forget, we dont know what was said, all we can see is an 250lb adult throwing a kid around - How mature of him.

From what I can tell by the reactions on the kid and the teacher plus a few around him I think the kid actually made a rude or nasty comment to the teacher and or others. The teacher simply grabbed him to talk to him but you can clearly see the kid goes nut and swings at every one.

Sorry but I'm fed up with the total lack of respect from the young here in the UK so I imagine its worse in the states.

'Youths' over here think its ok to be flippant, threatening, disrespectful and out right rude, the mouth goes right in to action and if they don't get the desired reaction violence follows VERY quickly. I've seen youths go 'up in your face' over people asking them to let them past, I bumped in to a girl of around 14 who had stopped dead in her tracks to talk on her mobile, I glanced her to avoid falling over her and said "think about others" and had a kitchen knife pulled on me.

The attitude is shocking and of course most are already deep in to drugs before they hit 13 here.

I regularly get rid of drug dealers and their clients here in my block, you go out to find someone injecting or a dirty little scumbag smoking skunk in the block, I'm a big man and they don't argue but its so bloody annoying.

I actually took a little 10yr old back to his parents house because he was smoking weed in the block and was a bit mouthy, I got to the door and was greeted by his mother (no dad around), as I told her what happened she started screaming blue murder at me and threatening me, I was stunned but it became very clear where the kid got his rudeness from.

In my day IF you were brought home for bad mouthing someone or doing some damage your parents apologised to the person and then taught their kid a good lesson, it might have been banned from pocket money or a clip around the head or in rare cases a belting but the kids just didn't behave like they do now, you opened doors for ladies, gave your seat up on buses, offered to help elderly people if they needed it and generally didn't give lip.

Now, you hope a 10yr old hasn't got a gun in their pocket..

Originally posted by lordbayfin
reply to post by kazanoom

 

Am I kidding are you ?
This is about competence you say ?

This is about school safety .SCHOOL SAFETY . The KID wait the TEENAGE MALE avoided the METAL detector and refused to walk though it . The adult all have the safety of the school and other Teenagers in mind.
A) Refusal to walk though a metal in any school in nyc you can not go to class.
B) The child insists on disobey and may as well be carrying something Dangerous that may harm other students or a teacher.
C) No one knows why the kid had issues with not walking though the MD he does not have any learning disabilities. (SO that is not the case)

I am not promoting a political view in any where of my discussion (insult). I am promoting DENY IGNORANCE which surly you didn't notice was this WEBSITES main calling but more and more this website is a breeding grond to promote FAR LEFT OR FAR Right .

Hey you are the one who made the Fox news comment. The situation could have been easily and peacefully resolved. It's called respect, something these kids get zero of and when they do they comply civilly. And watch the video again.

Yeah, violent kids get to be free while innocent people have to put bars on their windows and wear bullet proof jackets to be safe.

I still applaud this teacher. He did the right thing.

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Yeah, violent kids get to be free while innocent people have to put bars on their windows and wear bullet proof jackets to be safe.

I still applaud this teacher. He did the right thing.

So discipline kids properly then, there's no reason for people to be living in fear. And there's certainly no reason why this man should be pushing this kid around. He could be anyone yano, i wouldn't prize him as perfect.

reply to post by SearchLightsInc

Stop telling me what to do.

You raise your kids to be disrespectful punks while I'll raise mine to be respectful towards people and take no crap from anybody, especially control freaks like you.

Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve

Originally posted by LifeInDeath

Originally posted by smyleegrl
I'm a teacher. I want to know where in the US a teacher is making $95,000??!!! I have adv degrees and make a third of that!

In New York City I think they start at around $75,000/year and go up from there. Of course cost of living here is very high, so that $75k is closer to $50k in terms of what you get out of it, and you're probably going to be living in a smaller place no matter what.

But, on the upside you get to live in NYC.

edit on 7/1/2012 by LifeInDeath because: (no reason given)

That is really a lot of money, I think that the teachers in The Netherlands and other surrounding european country's don't get such a high salary. Why is that so high in the US ?

$75,000 is high for the U.S., but New York is so expensive, it's all relative and probably more like the equivalent of about $50,000 for what it gets you in terms of life-style here. $40-$50k is a pretty standard middle-class salary for someone with an undergraduate college degree (and a bit low for teachers considering a great many of them now have Master's degrees in teaching). My dad was making about $60-$65k as a supervisor in the government job when he retired a couple years ago (he was parole officer), but he was not in New York. In New York I suspect the same level job would have been over $100k, but again cost of living makes it all relative.

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by SearchLightsInc

 

Stop telling me what to do.

You raise your kids to be disrespectful punks while I'll raise mine to be respectful towards people and take no crap from anybody, especially control freaks like you.

...What?

So basicly, you're having a go at this kid for fighting back after been physically handled by an "adult" yet you state that you raise your kids not to take crap off anyone? ... Who's side are you actually on mate?

reply to post by SearchLightsInc


That kid was doing something illegal and the guy was trying to prevent that kid from getting in trouble. It was that kid that was escalating the situation, and it was that kid that turned to violence because he wanted to break the rules.

But who cares if a kid wants to break the rules right? IT'S ALL ABOUT FREEDOM!

I mean, it's all about the freedom to disagree. So he should be allowed to break the rules and enter that school without identification. He's a kid, so he should be allowed to do whatever he wants to and not take responsibility for his actions.

How stupid.

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by SearchLightsInc

 

That kid was doing something illegal and the guy was trying to prevent that kid from getting in trouble. It was that kid that was escalating the situation, and it was that kid that turned to violence because he wanted to break the rules.

But who cares if a kid wants to break the rules right? IT'S ALL ABOUT FREEDOM!

I mean, it's all about the freedom to disagree. So he should be allowed to break the rules and enter that school without identification. He's a kid, so he should be allowed to do whatever he wants to and not take responsibility for his actions.

How stupid.

And your evidence that this kid was doing something illegal? Your link that he said something out of turn? Your link he was breaking the rules?

Originally posted by article
I also feel that if you're incapable of raising a child, you should offer it up to those that can do so, but the choice should be only mother AND father. Making something easy to do is also promoting that same thing, wouldnt you say? If I offer you a free bottle of water, would I be promoting that water, lable or bottle? Sure.

What planet are you from?
That is how things are now.
There are lots of children that are being raised by the state because not enough people want to adopt these kids. This is not a novel idea you just came up with, it is what adoption is all about.

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Reply to post by habitforming

 

Lol....abort the next Ghandi....thats just stupid. The odds of a child growing up to be someone that exceptional is extremely small. Thats not a valid arguement against abortion.

 

Posted Via ATS Mobile: m.abovetopsecret.com

 

Speaking of stupid...

...I never said that so I am not sure why you are responding to me about it. I thought it was a stupid argument too.

Originally posted by article
I mentioned that in my responce. But I totaly agree ignorance is a virus.

you mentioned it in your response and you agree totally that ignorance is a virus? Good. Then you can explain to me why you would bother mentioning adoption after screaming about Ghandi II being aborted when I clearly listed them as two different options.

How many children have you adopted so far?

Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
Looks like the kid said something while walking away, so the teacher grabbed him and pulled him back to confront him, then the kid swung at his head which pissed him off. I assume whatever he might have said was pretty bad to ignite that kind of hostility.

weather the kid said something or not he's an adult/teacher, he should have never put hands on the kid in the first place.
he acted like a security guard in a club trying to throw out an obnoxious drunk.

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by habitforming

Originally posted by PurpleChiten
The schools aren't the problem, the parents are.

Then start promoting abortion and adoption and do something about all these #ty parents that the Republicans are creating.

I already do,
do you?

No, actually I do not promote abortion.
That is not my business.

reply to post by SearchLightsInc


Not my link.

It's the video in the op.

He wanted to enter the school, there was something wrong with the id so the guy wouldn't let the kid enter, the kid badmouthed him and escalated the situation then tried to enter the school without the id. The guy sought to restrain him, the kid reacted with violence.

But you go ahead and ignore it and keep on saying kids are so special that they can do anything they want to.

Heck, I'd bet you didn't even watch the video. You just want to be holier than thou and say poor poor kids. I on the other hand, have no such illusions about the monsters that kids can be.

I have nothing more to say to you. We'll just have to agree to disagree. And I vehemently disagree with you.

Originally posted by yyzyyz123
i love how they show a picture of what a little angel he must be,kinda of like a sweet little trayvon.he might as well get used to being handled by authorities,he seems like a disrespectfull punk who will probably end in jail where he belongs.

It seems to be the newest meme in "journalism". They have to make the actual guilty party look as innocent as they possibly can to properly skew their story.
Pathetic excuses for journalism.