What is the name of the christian god ?

Originally posted by DeathbecomesLife

If the words in the Bible are the only words that are from God, then your opinion does not matter.

This is your own condemnation. I believe your words do come from God, and if he condemns you so, then I will let him condemn you through your own words.

You're absolutely right! My words don't matter. We only try to help each other with interpretations.

You're right too about the fact that God judges everyone by what they speak and how they speak it, so thank God for the fact that He teaches mercy and forgiveness when we ask for it!

Originally posted by VeniVidi

Originally posted by DISRAELI
Why do you think the Christian God needs a name?
The function of a name is to distinguish between two individuals.
The Christian God is believed to be unique, as Creator God, so within Christianity he doesn't need any other name (though there's Biblical precedent for addressing him as "Lord" or "Father").
In discussions on this site, I tend to use the term "the Biblical God" when I want to distinguish him from the gods of other religions.

Who said the Christian God "needs" a name? He need no name when Moses asked:

Exodus 3:13-15

New International Version (NIV)

13 Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”

14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am.[a] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”

15 God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers —the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob —has sent me to you.’

“This is my name forever,
the name you shall call me
from generation to generation.

Funny thing is "I am" is actual a magickal incantation. Think about that one for a minute. This is something you would say when you are taking control of your reality instead of letting reality control you.


Now what I want to know is, why when I ask for proof that the bible is true, people cite prophecies that have supposedly come true. I have seen prophecies in the bible that seem to be coming true right now, but....

Who gave the visions to these prophets? How do I know it was God? What if it was "Satan"? Now I have my own idea on who "God" is, and im not going to get into that on this thread, but i do not believe in this "Satan" character whatsoever....

What if prophets are just using a little corner of their mind that we are not familiar with? What if some of these prophets were actually evil people that made a false religion to control people?

A just and fair god would not punish me for my beliefs, regardless. He sure went out of his way to make himself look fake.

His personal name is YHVH.

second line.

Umm. The word Allah means god. It is not a name. That is like a Chinese christian calling god by something and referring to that word as the name of the christian god.

Lol I got about half way throught the post and had to take a break.

Might as well add a cent.

Whene they went for thier trip to the gentiles, there was a statue which had no name. . . Paul I think was quick to show them that . . no name. . was his god. The god over all.

When I was a trained Protestant clergy( along time ago. . .walkin). . . I thought he had many names. As in the bible, thats what I was told.

But in reallity I have found after seeing and knowing him/her, that God had no Name, no Vanity,no sex and no predudice, guil, envy, decete,ect.

God is the thing we all feel and don't understand. . and there by fear. The Fear of God is Holy and a blessing and natural, those that have none are cold or maybe d. . . I hope not. . .

When we all realize our fantasy of living as an island is false then the time will be at hand, we seem to be a way off from it yet thank every goodness.. .

All faiths in the light are at least/or at best built on a truth as a way to point to truth.

A persons individual Gospel is written by them, imagine the gospel of. . . what would be written and be true?

I thank the maker and his mode that I am still writting mine. . .

Cheers!

Originally posted by phroziac

Funny thing is "I am" is actual a magickal incantation. Think about that one for a minute.

This is something you would say when you are taking control of your reality instead of letting reality control you.

You're right. That's why "I AM" is supposed to be reserved for God and no one else. The Bible tells us that all fallen angels (one of them being Satan) will be destroyed for leading mankind astray. Although the book of Enoch was never canonized into the Bible, it does go into more detail stating that it was the fallen angels who taught mankind "magick and secrets" that were reserved for heaven and not meant to be taught to humans.

Now what I want to know is, why when I ask for proof that the bible is true, people cite prophecies that have supposedly come true. I have seen prophecies in the bible that seem to be coming true right now, but....

Who gave the visions to these prophets? How do I know it was God? What if it was "Satan"? Now I have my own idea on who "God" is, and im not going to get into that on this thread, but i do not believe in this "Satan" character whatsoever....

The Bible tells us that the way to test a prophet is by whether or not the prophecy or vision ever comes true. If you see them coming true, it's from God. If it never comes true, it's from Satan. Yes, there still are prophecies in the Bible that have not happened yet, but that doesn't mean they won't. All of the others have.

What if prophets are just using a little corner of their mind that we are not familiar with? What if some of these prophets were actually evil people that made a false religion to control people?

Satan would love nothing more than to lead us to believe that we all have psychic abilities and able to control the world around us in order to lead us away from God and the teachings of Jesus. If you know the stories behind Jesus' disciples, you know that most of them were all killed for their beliefs, not the ones doing the killing, so I don't think they should be considered the evil ones trying to control people. And yes, Jesus told his disciples that most of them would die for defending Him and His teachings.

A just and fair god would not punish me for my beliefs, regardless. He sure went out of his way to make himself look fake.

I'm going to leave it to God to judge what's just and fair as I have no clue, but I'm pretty sure Satan and his fallen angels are the ones going out of their way to make God or Jesus look fake. The whole point of Christianity was to teach us that eternal life existed, but we needed a perfect human sacrifice (Jesus) in order to achieve it. Sacrifices weren't God's creation or idea, but since humans insisted on performing them (as taught to them by the fallen angels), God sent Jesus to fulfill their already existing beliefs as proof that He was the one true God over all of the other fake gods (fallen angels). None of the other gods we're able to appear in the flesh, die and come back to life the way that He did. And from what I understand, none of the fake gods claimed to have died voluntarily for their followers.

reply to post by NOTurTypical


From what I remember coming across once, th long o vowel sound was not employed in the hebrew language until the 16th century. So his name, by and through for whom all things were made, would be yahashawa- phonetically. Any hebrew linguist no for sure?

If we are speaking in terms of Christianity then I will speak in absolutes as Christ was the only real Christian to ever live. Christ was a radical Jew who espoused very eastern ideologies. The true name of the Jewish god was Adonai, Yahweh and Jehovah being later adaptations.

If you want to dig even deeper the monotheistic God of the Jews was pretty much copied from the Egyptians and their Ra. If only Akhenaten had known the great miasma he wrought upon history.

reply to post by LaughingatHumanity


Adonai is a title, not a name. It means "lord" in Hebrew.

Originally posted by ezekielken
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

From what I remember coming across once, th long o vowel sound was not employed in the hebrew language until the 16th century. So his name, by and through for whom all things were made, would be yahashawa- phonetically. Any hebrew linguist no for sure?

Forget vowels altogether. They are only inferred, His Name is YHVH.

Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
His personal name is YHVH.

second line.

That too is a Magickal Incantation, and is listed in the Kabbala and several Grimores. the letters are vibrated in order to effect the natural order of Nature, and in the calling of demonic inferiors. "Yud Hey Vav He!"

Allah, Yahweh, God, Yeshua Elohim, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.

The God of the Christians is also the God of the Jews, Muslims, and Mormons.

They have different prophets....but the original Godhead is the same.

I like best, that which is attributed to God himself when he spoke the first words ever spoken (and
also, the shortest sentence in the English language).............I AM

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do you know the name of god in islam ?

reply to post by autowrench

the letters are vibrated in order to effect the natural order of Nature, and in the calling of demonic inferiors.

where did you get this information ? i never heard of it.

reply to post by rival

I like best, that which is attributed to God himself when he spoke the first words ever spoken (and also, the shortest sentence in the English language).............I AM

this "i am", did god speak it in hebrew ?

Are you kidding....God speaks English as a first language....everybody knows that

Though I heard he knows enough French to order from the menu fluently...and speaks a "little" Farsi,
but not enough to qualify as a translator for the US military

reply to post by rival

haha, i meant, what's the original expression ?

reply to post by icepack

I know, the god of the jews is Jehova, the god of the muslims is Allah and Jesus is the son of god.
Isn't there a name because of the trinity, a different deity model ?

"God" would be how we refer to God.
There is only one name given, and this is spelled out in the Christian Bible, the New Testament.
The Old Testament is an inferior document where the Jews changed it to make the Angel of Sinai, going by I Am, into God Himself. The NT corrects that by Jesus saying he is the I Am, thus taking that title previously held by the angel, for himself and telling the religious leaders of the Jews that they did not know God, and that he did, coming from God.
Jesus is the bearer of the name by which we know God, which is Jesus.

Originally posted by LiberalSceptic
In my opinion all our religions come from Egypt.

In the case of Christianity the name of God would be Amun. That is why every prayer in the bible is ended by Amen.
A discrete way to pay tribute to Amun.

The center of the Vatican, there is a obelisk. Once again, to pay tribute to the Egyptian Gods.
Allot of the Popes stylish gears are taken from Egyptian traditions.

edit on 18-6-2012 by LiberalSceptic because: (no reason given)

Seriously? Could you not take one minute to look up the origin of "amen"? Amen means "verily" in Hebrew.

The obelisk is there because obelisks are a part of Roman architecture...
So, obelisks being in Rome isn't all that surprising or sinister.

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The Old Testament is an inferior document where the Jews changed it to make the Angel of Sinai, going by I Am, into God Himself.

angel of sinai ? never heard this before. do you have more information ?
i only found something about Kemuel.

According to Jewish folklore, when Moses first stepped into the cloud at the top of Mount Sinai, he was confronted by the angel Kemuel, known as the ‘gatekeeper’. Kemuel, the Guardian of the Threshold between Heaven and Earth, tried to prevent Moses from passing, claiming he did not belong there. Moses explained that he was there with God’s permission to receive the Torah, but Kemuel still did not want to let him pass, so Moses struck him down and destroyed him.

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