I joined the Communist Party

Recently, I formally joined the Communist Party. I have lost long time friends, certain family has disowned me, even my fiancé has left me because of it. Are there any other members of this forum out there that have joined the Communist Party whom have lost their friends and family? I am interested to see how people react to such a thing. In the West, people have learnt to hate communism and instantly abandon anybody with communist leanings. I will admit, I could be wrong for my beliefs, but has anybody else out there been ostracized for believing that communism is the answer?

MVH,
Josef

reply to post by brukernavn

Why only join when you can go and live in a communist country? Cuba has awesome beaches and resorts and I'm sure the local communist citizens have full access to those facilities?

BTW I don't recall about hearing of any Americans drifting ashore in Cuba to better their lives. You could be the first

I can only imagine the look of confusion on the Coast Guards face if they were to pick you up. Even funnier the look of confusion on the Cubans face if you actually made it . Although, I would imagine that they would appreciate your raft which would quickly find its way back to the US.

reply to post by brukernavn


I personally don't agree with almost anything the communist say but I applaud you sir. Our country needs more people like you that think outside of the two party paradigm.

reply to post by brukernavn

I just want to ask a question.

What exactly about the Communist Party's beliefs do you find appealing?

I only ask because I have never seen the appeal of Communism.

reply to post by brukernavn


I think IMO it would be hard to find another organisation/belief /lifestyle that is despised as much as communism !!
Just my opinion though. Wonder why your surprised about people's opinion

you came to the wrong place for support boss - we firmly believe in FREEDOM... just read some of the threads on here. You might be in line if the current government continues on its current path. but there is a sever flaw in their plan... we Americans and it will come down to us versus them in this country and guess what ? all they got to do is kill a few and we will take them out so fast it will make them question what the hell happend .... thats just the way it is ... they can say anything they want "thats America" but actions speak and those words will get you killed in this country... might want to try something less repulsive like worshiping a monarch or kissing someones ass its safer..

I think the irony of your situation is amusing. Here you go and officially join a political group that espouses the desire and superiority of a communal system, all to have your community shun you.

I agree with the poster who mentioned going to a place where this system you desire is already in place. I don't understand why there are so many here in the US who do want to turn our system of government and unique ideas on liberty etc into what already exists elsewhere.

Its easy to be a communist in a free country, but try to be free citizen in a communist country.

I love those Hollywood people that love to Kiss Fidel and his clone (Hugu) ass. Yet I have not heard of any one of them that has donated ALL their money to the Republic of Cuba in order to be an equal and to live of the system.

I don't understand how people can be such an A$$ about how great the system is but apparently not good enough for them to live of it.

The problem with communism and its supporters that have never lived under such a regime, is that somehow they always envision themselves as being part of the decision makers within the system or a leader. Somehow they never think about being the pee on guy that has no property , freedom, or capability to help themselves and has to depend on a system to feed their family.

Please buy a water filer immediately and stop drinking tap water sodas and other highly processed drinks and food. Turn off CNN and the TV for a while. Look into doing a cleanse and try to eat as clean as you can.

Seriously you have made a serious mistake and bought the BS they have fed you. Your not thinking clearly to have joined such an organization and embraced their philosophy. You even admit your not sure so it sounds like you just want to be part of something. Join a club for a hobby or cause you are interested in to be part of something. This is not the way my friend.

Sorry your family has disowned you they should be loving you anyway and gently trying to persuade you to reconsider. Your fiance well I can understand how that would be a huge conflict in a relationship and she did not want to deal with it. Can't blame her.

Seriously man you need to reconsider.

reply to post by brukernavn


I will answer your questions with one of my own. What draws you to communism?

Welcome comrade!

I'm an open democratic socialist, I haven't lost anyone because of it though. I've had some heated arguments but nothing to the point of close-minded, out-right rejection. Leftists are in the minority on this site...at least, that's what I've seen. I'm sorry about your experiences, if you've got any questions or anything just let me know.

For those of you whom assumed. I am not american. I am Norwegian. Communism appeals to me because of the belief of the worker having ownership. Communism has never been seen in modern history. I disagree with the works of Marx, Lenin and Mao. I have read them all. The transition phase that they say is necessary has always failed. Once a human has absolute power (dictator), they will never "step down". It is human nature to keep whatever power one holds. I only believe in worker ownership. So much is misconceived, from anti-communist bigotry... I have heard so much of "if you do not want to work, you get the same as those that work." Where the hell does that thinking come from? In a true communist society, you only get what you put in. If you CHOOSE to not work, you get NOTHING. The workers only get what they produce. Is that not common sense? My favourite source of info is Johnny Cash. He grew up under communism in Dyess Arkansas. Read up on how he grew up and the way that they shared in their labor. The most successful places in America are that way because they practiced communism.

reply to post by brukernavn


There can be a place and a time where communism can work. On a small scale, and typically where survival is the mainstay, communism can be a perfect system to utilize.

However, when trying to scale the idea of communism, pure communism as you seem to believe, it will always morph into a hideous beast of oppression, cronyism and tyranny. The idea cannot work at a national level. Some may want to point to nations like Cuba or China and say it is working. I would counter by saying that I don't consider those systems working, and unless they adopt aspect of free systems, like China has, they collapse entirely.

reply to post by Wolf321


I agree with you. It can only happen on a small scale. In smaller populated countries, such as my Norway.

reply to post by Wolf321


I agree with you. Communism did not work for China in the sense that I am talking about. You are correct. Chairman Mao killed more than Hitler. He is a worthless piece of crap, in my opinion.

So you are against freedom...


Maybe thats why all your friends and family abandoned you?

reply to post by brukernavn


I would disagree with your assessment on the scale in which it can work.

I think it can work in small groups no larger than a village. Even then, only when the purpose is survival.

When you try to go larger, or survival is not the basis of life, you have issues. In current society, most would agree we need artists. A free open system allows people to value art and people can make a living from it. In a survival situation, one artists work will hold little value and disputes arise as to the fairness of giving potatoes for a song.

I would say that communism is not and should not be a political party. It is a natural system that can exist in the situations I have mentioned. A political party is based in ideas of fiscal policy and methods of governing. As communism cannot work in a system the size of a nation, it is a flawed idea to create a party around it. I actually believe that the creation of a party around the idea of communism was set up by those simply to gain and manipulate power.

That being said, why would you want to align yourself with a party for that purpose? Practically speaking, aligning yourself with and parties in general are a silly, if not dangerous endeavor. Live your life according to the ideals you believe, vote for those whose ideals mirror your own. When if comes down to it, party's are just a method for candidates to hide their true selves from the people. People can remain generally stupid and say, "oh he is ____ so he must have the same ideals." People should have to hear the ideals first not the labels.

reply to post by eLPresidente


No, I am not pro-american. Why would you ever think so? By the way, GO RON PAUL!!! I am not Amerikkkan, but I love him.

Originally posted by brukernavn
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

No, I am not pro-american. Why would you ever think so? By the way, GO RON PAUL!!! I am not Amerikkkan, but I love him.

so you are a voluntary communist? i can respect that....just leave my freedom alone.

reply to post by Wolf321


I agree with you to an extent. I am more than happy that you gave explanations for disagreeing with me. I appreciate people more when back what they believe up. Have you researched the environment in which Johnny Cash grew up in? Thank you so much for your honest rebuttal. Once again, people, I am Norwegian, not Amerikan.