My niece sent home from school for NOT wearing a hoodie

Some of the schools here in Delaware and the Philly area had 'Treyvon Martin days'
even though those schools had no business doing so.
So I believe that your niece very well could have had one at her school.
And consdering how much of an agenda some 'educators' have these days ...
recent major example here
... I don't doubt that some idiot principle would try something like this.

That being said ... give us the name of the school and, if the principle really did this,
we will flood that school with phone calls and we'll be sure to let the media know.

P.S. ... I wouldn't ever wear something grabbed from a high school 'lost and found'.
MAJOR YUK FACTOR!

Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Maybe there's a political correctness stupidity pandemic in public schools these days.

A couple months ago the public school that my niece attends had a "Treyvon Martin" day. The students were told to wear hoodies for the assembly.

My niece, who is in 10th grade, and who is an independent thinker, questioned this. She told her home room teacher that she didn't want to wear a hoodie in support of Treyvon Martin. The teacher asked why, and my niece said she felt bad he died, but that maybe he was the one who attacked Zimmerman, and she didn't feel comfortable supporting anybody when she didn't know the facts.

The next day my niece showed up to school dressed nicely, but not wearing the hoodie. She was sent to the principal's office and reprimanded, and told that she either had to wear a hoodie or go home. The principal told her to go to the lost and found and find a hoodie to wear. The principal's reasoning was that it was important that the students show uniformity, and support for a fellow high school student that was gunned down.

My niece went to the lost and found in tears, and called her mom. Her mom called the principle, who told her to come pick her up from school.

Now is where the story gets good....

Her mom went into the principal's office the next day to confront her on what happened. The principal told her that it's important that the students "fall in" and "sometimes you have to learn to comply." Her mom pointed to the school's values posted on the wall and noted that "compliance" wasn't one of the values, and that in fact "diversity" was a value.

The principal replied, "Diversity means the right kind of diversity. Not your daughter's kind of diversity."

I wanted to tell the world about the school and the principal, but it would only make it harder for my niece. She's already targeted over this.

Is this an aberration, or is it normal for schools these days to be run like indoctrination camps? How does this ever get fixed?

My sister-in-law wants to move over this. I don't blame her.

Call local news,ACLU and a good lawyer.Get the child away from a small person in a position of power.Who is on a ego trip.After her being singled out she will become a target of bullying.Stop this before it affects this child permanently.

I have to admit I laughed at the absolute stupidity at this thread.

First the fact that a school went out of its way to make a child conform.
Second that there was a thread made about this
and
third that you people are so shocked and surprised. Have you been walking around with your heads up your collective you know whats?

Durrrr!! you think the government want Independent and free thinking citizens? What planet are you people on?

Dont you know you live in a very large prison?

Jesus, wake up already. The fact that you are a slave should be self evident. I thought we were past the obvious but apparently not.

Originally posted by OmegaLogos

Explanation: There is enough information supplied for ATS to find out the name of the school.

The OP's location is in Los Angeles [claimed]

But this is about her niece...so her location is just as irrelevant and speculative as her OP.

So it wont be any of these ...

It wouldn't be any one of those because well...they aren't in the Northeast of the United States. I admire your attempt here at some detective work but you are on the wrong coast if we are to believe the minute details the OP has left us.

Or any of these ...

Still fishing on the wrong coast.....

Which means the high school is most likely in one of these suburbs ...

Northeast United States is not the same as Northeast Los Angeles. Her "Sister-in-law" doesn't have to live in Los Angeles. If I talk about a story from my brother and I live in Vegas, are you going to assume that my brother lives in Vegas? That is some logical missteps there.

Personal Disclosure: Let's get to work with what we have already got and do what ATS does best and debunk or confirm this ok!

I am all for getting either some confirmation or general area from the OP but you took small information and connected in a manner that isn't even true -- if we are to believe the OP. Her "location" has nothing to do with the location of her sister-in-law and her niece.

@OP -- I have taken the liberty, based on your avatar on using the pronoun "she" -- no offense meant if that isn't the case.

Post Script: Eight pages and the OP only came back to defend once. I call BS. If I made these claims and I believed them to be true I would be in here with a rock solid defense against all who said otherwise. The OP's absence is enough for me to see this as nothing but a bit of creative writing....

reply to post by Shrukin89


3 posts in and the teacher gets called a commie.

Is this a new record for ATS?

Does your niece read ATS? That's the only way she'd think that Martin attacked Zimmerman. Was she reading one of popsmayhem's threads/posts?

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


So what's next when a student overdoses they all have to drink the cool aide ............ WOW , I am at a loss for this one . This shows how far the socialist agenda is dug in , like a diseased tic on a dogs ass this needs to be plucked up and squashed.

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by Shrukin89

 

3 posts in and the teacher gets called a commie.

Is this a new record for ATS?

Does your niece read ATS? That's the only way she'd think that Martin attacked Zimmerman. Was she reading one of popsmayhem's threads/posts?

If you can not see the communist ideology here the you are very much lacking in social studies.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
And consdering how much of an agenda some 'educators' have these days ...
recent major example here
... I don't doubt that some idiot principle would try something like this.

Including 'educators' like these as well who fired their own employees, a Coca Cola employee got fired for drinking a Pepsi

Santangelo said Rick Bronson, a driver who had been with Coca-Cola Bottling Co. for 12 years, had just completed a delivery to a California store called Smart and Final. Bronson purchased a Pepsi at the store and headed to a back room to take a break. Bronson was wearing his Coke uniform and was on company time when he drank the offending Pepsi. Someone spotted Bronson and notified the company, Santangelo said. Santangelo also said Bronson had never been disciplined before and had a "clean record" when he was fired.

Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light

"When I came in, they said, 'You're in trouble for drinking Bud Light,'" Aguero said. Then, his boss gave him the ax. "I asked him to tell me the reason why I'm fired, and he was like, 'There's no reason. We just don't need you no more,'" Aguero said.

The Mom needs to push this to the limit. Take it to the Board of Education. Talk to the press. Newspaper, TV, any who will listen and get the story out there. We are in a war for our children's minds and I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose.

This is an open/closed lawsuit that will make the news, guaranteed. Find a lawyer who will take this on a contingency basis. Without a written, dress code, the school violated her rights by forcing her to wear a hoodie or leave. Seriously, find a lawyer and h/she will use the publicity to promote their law practice, thus, they will easily do this without charging a cent in advance and will only be paid if they win.

reply to post by DAVID64


That's what would've happened had this story been true.

Surely some other parent would've raised a stink about this..even if the ops family didn't.I pity the people who starred/flagged this thread.Hey,I was attacked by aliens last night and they stole my dog.Where are my stars?!

reply to post by Azadok2day


You don't even know what communist ideology is.

Why do people star this crap?

reply to post by curiouswa


What if this were a boy wearing saggy pants in school?

Would you be saying the same thing?

I'm sure some of you would be condemning such a practice and in extreme cases, calling for harm to the person in question.

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


Wow.

There were surely more people than just your niece. This needs to be brought to the school board and the public, and this principle needs reprimanded at the very least. You cannot force a student to honor another student any more than you can make them pray, or make them like chocolate. She had every right to abstain from the assembly, and especially refrain from wearing the hoodie.

I'm sure the school was afraid that it would create even more divisive tension if a group of students abstained from the assembly, and they would probably be correct, and that is why they should have never had the damn thing to begin with.

I'm thinking your sis is right, and a move to a better school is in order. If the administration of the school thinks like this, then I'm sure it is evident in the rest of the curriculum as well.

Tell your sis to find a magnet school, sign your niece up, list her race as "Native American," and she will get right into the school.

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


I'm having a difficult time believing this story as well... Surely there would have been more than one kid in an entire high school that refused to wear a hoodie... even IF the principal told them to.

The principal replied, "Diversity means the right kind of diversity. Not your daughter's kind of diversity."

Not that I think principals are all wonderful, but the guy would have to be a complete idiot to say something like this... It's all very questionable, to say the least.

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
This is a perfict example of what I feel is the real threat to this country. Not so much the kind of people running the country(we can get rid of them) but what the people in the country have become and even worse the people that stand around and let it happen thinking it will change on its own.

Get everyone that will stand with you involved, I hate to say it but get the ACLU involved if you can. Your niece has been targeted already, nothing good will come of this if you don't try and fight back.Just my opinion, good luck.

reply to post by InfoKartel


One needs to only google : schools violating students

You will find endless stories of parents fighting over crazy stuff the schools have been doing. State mandated nonsense has tossed out common sense a long time ago. This question of whether this stuff is happening has been proven long ago. Me thinks those who stand firm in support of the school system at this point, benefits from the wretched system or refuses to acknowledge facts.. no one else would.

Bashing people who know what has been going on with petty name-calling and nothing else does not validate your argument princess. In fact, no surprise you would bring up political bashing this is what our education system taught you.. you are useless if no one tells you what to think. If someone asks you to make a decision that you have never encountered before, it would ruin your world, your first notion would be to pick up the phone and get someone else to use their brain, cause yours isn't able to process a single complicated task. Go ahead darling.. challenge yourself... look up complaints about the school system... or just reply with more of your empty words.

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
Does your niece attend the same high school that Treyvon Martin did? If so, was this a memorial event on behalf of the student body for a fallen class mate?

If that is the case, her questioning Treyvon's innocence and her nonconformity could have resulted in violence, simply because of the emotional attachment of the boy's friends, don't you think?

edit on 10-6-2012 by windword because: (no reason given)

This is the only post I've seen so far that could even begin to justify the reasoning behind having all students wear hoodies (if that is actually the case and we aren't getting an extremely skewed story).

Thanks Windword for thinking of this possibility.

Of course, even with that, for such a politically charged topic, the school should not be "taking sides" either way and if it's a memorial, it should be held after school hours, not during school, especially with the nature of this particular case.

I usually side with the school first (unless they are blatantly wrong), but not always. IF the poster is giving the true account, the school is wrong in this one. I would like to hear the other side or at least know what school it was and where it's located so we could look at the local news for that area and see if it actually occured in the way portrayed. There is no possible way that any public school, anywhere in the US could possibly have 100% participation in an event like the OP described and those not participating would definitely be speaking out and it would be all over the local, if not national news.
Until I see verification via a newslink that the event took place as described, I will have to go on the assumption that we aren't getting the whole story or the story isn't true to begin with. If verification is given and it's factual, then I would completely be on the side of the OP. IF it is valid, the school is in the wrong on this one.... IF it is valid.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Some of the schools here in Delaware and the Philly area had 'Treyvon Martin days'
even though those schools had no business doing so.
So I believe that your niece very well could have had one at her school.
And consdering how much of an agenda some 'educators' have these days ...
recent major example here
... I don't doubt that some idiot principle would try something like this.

That being said ... give us the name of the school and, if the principle really did this,
we will flood that school with phone calls and we'll be sure to let the media know.

P.S. ... I wouldn't ever wear something grabbed from a high school 'lost and found'.
MAJOR YUK FACTOR!

I think if it's a student-led event and abides by the dress code, it is acceptable for the students to do something like this, but there is no way a school would have the right to sanction an event or to require participation.
With that being said, they would be justified in making a one-day exception for the dress code if there was a group of students who went through the proper channels and requested one. They would be justified in allowing the students to make their statement in a peaceful, non confrontational way and they would be justified in ensuring there was no confrontation to the students participating. But in no way, ever, would a public school be justified in endorsing an event like this or creating an event like this and definitely not in requiring 100% participation.
I do feel there are issues with the OP's post and don't feel that we are being given the truth concerning it.

Originally posted by PurpleChiten
I do feel there are issues with the OP's post and don't feel that we are being given the truth concerning it.

Which is why I asked for the name of the school.
I know people don't give out personal info on the internet and righfully so.
so it's a long shot.
I've googled ... came up with nothing in the papers, etc etc ...

ETA .. when I googled I came up with A LOT of schools having official 'Trayvon Martin Hoodie Days'.
So the school very easily could have had one. And there could easily have been a lot of
social pressure to conform. But I dont know if the teacher would have said what he said ...
it's a pretty sick teacher if he did ...