My niece sent home from school for NOT wearing a hoodie

Originally posted by WhisperingWinds
I'm tired of seeing people hurl accusations without proof that it isn't true.

Proof that it ISN'T true??? So, I could start a thread on here saying bikini clad aliens landed, gave me a BLT sandwich for lunch, then vanished......and you have to prove that it isn't true.

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


I guess I'm finding your story hard to buy. You sound like you "want" to be a concerned parent, but then do nothing? Seriously?? If it were a member of my family I would be all over the news about it. Sounds too fishy to me.

Not everyone runs to court over each and every little thing that happens. Although this is something that SHOULDN'T happen at a school, it's pretty minor as far as some of the things that DO happen.

Like I've said several times, I almost always take the side of the school....almost....
I believe the OP and it doesn't seem out of the ordinary for that area (NorthEast, especially Philly) for something like this to happen. If you don't believe me that I usually take the side of the school, feel free to check the thread about someone's sister being suspended for conspiracy theories.... or any other thread I've made posts on concerning schools.

As one of the biggest skeptics as far as "this happened to my kid/niece/sister/friend at school", I can accept this one as being possible, maybe even probable.

I find this disturbing. The school was wanting to make a political statement and trying to force the students to go along with their statement, whether they agreed with it or not.

Falling in? The right kind of diversity?

What kind of nonsense is that? Yeah, you can be diverse...As long as it fits in with everyone else....That's not diversity at all....That is the exact opposite of diversity...

Would I go to the local news and make a fuss about it? Yes, assuming my Niece was okay with it....


I think political statements need to be left out of school. I think trying to force under aged students to make political statements with you, not allowing them to have an opinion of their own and then punishing them for not going along with a political statement they don't agree with....Is flat out wrong and attention needs to be brought to it.

Not much else I can say.

This really pisses me off... I can't say what's on my mind, or this post would get removed.

Make sure the girl knows that she did NOTHING wrong

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


intresting..

seems like to me that,

1) their forcing kids out that do not comply
2) forcing the parents to put their kids in private schools or Home school..
3) should they be home schooled, then the state will step in and ban home schooling..

just my 2cents worth ..

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


Give FoxNews a shout. Your Niece will perhaps get to say her bit on the air and make the school look the fool, as they should if this is true?

Schools should be teaching kids instead about the rule of law, the courts and how they work. This would be a good opportunity for that. They should be taught to wait for the trial and allow the Jury to decide.

Sounds like she is in a very bad school. My sympathies. Private schools have become a necessity and no longer a luxury, until the activists and haters can be thrown out of the schools.

Originally posted by PurpleChiten
I believe the OP and it doesn't seem out of the ordinary for that area (NorthEast, especially Philly) for something like this to happen.

Could you please provide an example of this? I'd like to see another story about a public school enforcing an event, where students not complying were asked to leave.

Why shouldn't someone provide proof of some kind? It's the fondest desire of many here to incite rage and anger towards the "establishment," schools, people in authority, et al. Is it fair to them? Even tho it may not be a specific name, is it fair to encourage dislike.. even hate, for a cause or organization.. as in this case, public schools? I think it's perfectly fair to get some facts that can be verified.

Especially in this age - when social media as we have seen, can even be the catalyst for the overthrow of a government. So yes, I think it's perfectly fair to ask for proof. The original story was told in such a way as to make the "victim" out to be smart, sensible, and then horribly distraught. And the school and principal to be uncaring, unfair, to the point of communism. Why not give the name of the school? A quick verification can let us know if there was indeed, a forced / mandatory hoodie day. Nothing wrong with giving us that info, right? Why wouldn't she?

The detail of the OP's sister-in-law not intending to make an issue out of it sounds like a cop-out to explain why no one has heard of it yet....

True or not true, one thing is for sure. And this is from a Father of two teen-age Daughters. Schools have their own agendas and have no problem requiring the students to do their bidding whether political or financial. It has become a scam. And as good as my kid's school is (for this area), many of the teachers and administration are a waste of space. I swear they spend more time watching movies than learning.

is it just me or does this whole thread feel like a psych 101 project ?

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1

 

Give FoxNews a shout. Your Niece will perhaps get to say her bit on the air and make the school look the fool, as they should if this is true?

Schools should be teaching kids instead about the rule of law, the courts and how they work. This would be a good opportunity for that. They should be taught to wait for the trial and allow the Jury to decide.

Sounds like she is in a very bad school. My sympathies. Private schools have become a necessity and no longer a luxury, until the activists and haters can be thrown out of the schools.

Just my opinion on the OPs stance... It wasn't a MAJOR issue, just a frustrating small one that was wrong and shouldn't be done. However, if she raises a big fuss over it, it will cause more harm for her niece then if she says nothing at all. It was frustrating and wrong, but it isn't worth the backlash for bringing it out and making a fuss over it.

Originally posted by gavron

Originally posted by PurpleChiten
I believe the OP and it doesn't seem out of the ordinary for that area (NorthEast, especially Philly) for something like this to happen.

Could you please provide an example of this? I'd like to see another story about a public school enforcing an event, where students not complying were asked to leave.

edit on 11-6-2012 by gavron because: (no reason given)

I can't provide that without affecting my anonymity at this particular time... If you choose to not believe me as a result, that is your prerogative, but I can't justify doing so for the purpose of a story on a message board.

Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
The school didn't officially "require" the hoodie from what I understand.

There it is... Well that changes things. The initial impression you put out was different than this. Case closed far as I'm concerned.

Specify these little details next time.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by nightstalker78

 

The point is that there were Trayvon Martin days held in many schools.

Since when?
How about you tell the OP because this thread is not about Trayvon Martin day. It is about her niece being punished for not wearing something particular to school that was not part of the dress code.

this thread is a disgrace to ATS.

i miss the good days of ATS when lame, biased, hateful threads were not a common thing.

Originally posted by Blarneystoner

Originally posted by habitforming
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1

 

BULL CRAP!

I do not buy this story for one second.
I find it a little hard to believe every kid in that school, including your niece OWNED a hoody that they could wear or choose not to wear.

I think this story is BS as well....

Im thinking the same. The first thing that made didnt make sense to me was that her neice was the ONLY student who was sent home for making a, tatement considering this story is highly publicized, parents talk about it, and it is highly unlikely she is the only one who would refuse to wear a hoodie based on her opinions about the incident.

The next thing that threw me off was that the principle actually said things like how people must learn to comply. Seriously? What principle would EVER say that to a parent as an explanation for sending them home? the position of principle can be very political in its own way. He would know that Saying something like that would be detrimental to him. Not to mention how he supposedly told her to wear a hoodie from the lost and found? Why would the principle make a student wear an item of clothing that is not hers and from an inknown origin just to make a point?

Then he says "the right kind of diversity, not your daughter kind of diversity?". This principle manages to say some absolutely absurd, offensive, and highly charged things and the mom doesnt even care?

If i turn out to be wrong i will eat my words for sure, but this story is just so neat and tidy and hits perfectly on all the key points that rile people up...the treyvon martin case, racism, conformity, communism, bullying, a young, smart and innocent victim, injustice, indoctrination of our youth, etc. it also counter-argues all possible arguments within the story. (like how she was an independent thinker and made sure to dress nicely for the event).

One thing ive noticed is that none of the schools found in a search held an event at required the attendance of ecery student. They all are demonstrations that the school allowed to take place performed by a particular group of students. This makes the ops story even more questionable, imo.

OP, post evidence this happened, or admit you made the whole thing up for stars and flags. (Congratulations on that!)