Will Europe Help America In WW3? Should They?

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Fair enough.
Disengaging.

There are bigger fish to fry.

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I'm saying, forget fighting and dying to defend the United States. Are you willing to fight and die to defend its people?

Hey man.

Yes I am. I just think they are wrong. I think the American Government and the IMf and the corporatists are the problem. Look at State Capitalism under China. They have risen so quickly. They protect their industries. Its a miracle they have done what they have.

America on the other hand has corporatists all out of Delaware. Multinational corporations selling out their own people. America is a mess. They do not deserve to be on top or act like they are now. And nations are starting to treat them with less and less respect.

I am a socialist. Austyralia was near on socialist even as short a time ago as the 80's. It has been Americanized. It is not better. It is worse. I see nations like Argentina nationalize oil and it gives me hope.

Nationalization is the way to beat the corporatists and get back their country. nationalization.

Not only would I fight for Americans,I would fught for the Greeks. That is who I care about right now. The Greeks ,the Spanish, the Portugese. We are meant to be their friends. Instead of helping we all turn on them. Especially these Pro-Hiroshima types.

We must support the Greeks Support the people. Not the demonic US Government.

I dont like OWS much but at least they dont support the government like Pro-Hiroshima,Republocrat neoamericas.

I can see Civil war someplace in Europe maybe. I want to go. The Spanish Civil War was great because it was all kinds of different people. They were not fighting for their country but for what they believed in.

So yeah,I would fight for the people.

Originally posted by neo96

Tto be honest I am sick of hearing about what the enemy did.

So only what America has ever done!

Evil Evil America!!!

Because:

Tto be honest I am sick of hearing about what the enemy did.

I dont understand you yet again.

If you mean that I blame America for all bad stuff in WW2 you are wrong and putting words in my mouth and ignoring when I said I dont like attacks on non combatants. did you read that?

I also put emphasis on Dresden didnt I? didnt I? That was Britan. I have also mentioned Churchill. So..... what the hell are you talking about?

I say Europe WILL help the US of A. IT has believe it or not too strong a tie within the Financial and Banking sectors.

Europe houses the Rothschild Empire while America house the Rockerfella Empire which are so in Bed with each other it is a well guarded secret.

The dislike they show towards each is in REALITY a SHAM a show for the public.

I hope we help the US in WW3. For its people anyway!!!

Plus The American people are innocent in their governments doings to a large degree, due to brainwashing from early age!!


P.S I would like to say that if it was Canada, Europe would NOT help and rightly so. European power do not like Canada and anything they do is dropped or labelled wrong. For example right now they are at "war" over he canadian oilsands and its pollution, ust a way for Europe to dig at something trivial but public!!

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I say Europe WILL help the US of A. IT has believe it or not too strong a tie within the Financial and Banking sectors.

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well thats why I bring it up. The IMF is the US. The recent elections in Europe are a clear sign that the people are against the IMF/US and their Austerity.

This is the crux. IMF is US.

France voted to bring troops home and that is an American issue. Soon a leader will emerge that is not a puppet. A real leader. It will happen in Europe.

I think the BRICS will present themselves as an alternative to the American dominted system. This is why countries will jump ship.

America is a loser of a country. It needs an intervention. Look how crap it is. They had all the cards but still blew it. All they have to offer us is protection.

Well what if China can protect Europe from the IMF and America? Germany is the only odd one out and I dont think they will back America at the end of the day if Europe is looking like getting dominated by China.

Japan starting buying Chinese Goverment Bonds recently. Things are changing.

China is buying the US Government.

America is nothing but diseaseed tullips and a military. Why are they on top? Because they can protect us? # that.

Originally posted by Germanicus
America is nothing but diseaseed tullips and a military.

Really?? Maybe you should come visit here sometime, you obviously have a twisted view of USA..... What's strange is that people still come to USA for a better life, strange thing eh? Id still choose to live here in USA instead of any other country in the world, and Ive been to many other countries and experienced many other cultures...

But I gotta say, "nothing but diseased tullips" is a very classy comment!!!

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Tto be honest I am sick of hearing about what the enemy did.

And who is 'the enemy'?

If you mean that I blame America for all bad stuff in WW2 you are wrong and putting words in my mouth and ignoring when I said I dont like attacks on non combatants. did you read that?

I also put emphasis on Dresden didnt I? didnt I? That was Britan. I have also mentioned Churchill. So..... what the hell are you talking about?

And Germany wasn't responsible for any of the 'bad stuff' in WWII?

You express support for The Spanish Republic and admiration for The International Brigades.
What are your thoughts on acts like Guernica committed by the German Luftwaffe against The Spanish Republic and Hitler's forces fighting against The International Brigades?

By the way, I personally think The Spanish Civil War is a fascinating period and think the treatment and abandonment of The Spanish Republic by the international community was an absolute disgrace.

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Hitler had a track record of breaking treaties and agreements, as such Stalin would have been naive to the extreme if he hadn't considered the possibility and planned accordingly.
Which is why when Hitler was concentrating on winning The Battle Of Britain Stalin built up his military might.

Hitler and Stalin both agreed to divide Poland. That means Hitler and Stalin both had plans. Hitler attacked Poland on September 1st 1939, and Stalin attacked Finland on october 30th 1939. Stalin knew what Hitler was up because they had pre-war agreements.

Hitler and Stalin both agreed to attack Poland. Why?

Why would Stalin attack Poland and Finland? To me it seams as Stalin wanted to expand.

Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Germanicus

 

Tto be honest I am sick of hearing about what the enemy did.

And who is 'the enemy'?

If you mean that I blame America for all bad stuff in WW2 you are wrong and putting words in my mouth and ignoring when I said I dont like attacks on non combatants. did you read that?

I also put emphasis on Dresden didnt I? didnt I? That was Britan. I have also mentioned Churchill. So..... what the hell are you talking about?

And Germany wasn't responsible for any of the 'bad stuff' in WWII?

You express support for The Spanish Republic and admiration for The International Brigades.
What are your thoughts on acts like Guernica committed by the German Luftwaffe against The Spanish Republic and Hitler's forces fighting against The International Brigades?

By the way, I personally think The Spanish Civil War is a fascinating period and think the treatment and abandonment of The Spanish Republic by the international community was an absolute disgrace.

What do you mean who was the enemy? Im from Australia. Japan was the enemy. And Germany was the enemy. The Rats Of Tobruk kicked German ass like nobody else.

and Im no Hitlere fan. I think he did some good things and he achieved alot but Im no fan. What do you mean by that question?

Originally posted by jhn7537

Originally posted by Germanicus
America is nothing but diseaseed tullips and a military.

Really?? Maybe you should come visit here sometime, you obviously have a twisted view of USA..... What's strange is that people still come to USA for a better life, strange thing eh? Id still choose to live here in USA instead of any other country in the world, and Ive been to many other countries and experienced many other cultures...

But I gotta say, "nothing but diseased tullips" is a very classy comment!!!

edit on 2-6-2012 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)

what I mean is its like Tullip Mania. There is no real value. Its mostly bloated due to the fact that you hold the Reserve Currency. You produce little of real value. Getting rid of manufacturing is a mistake. When you guys get massive inflation,and you will,things will be very bad.

Moving numbers. Bloated value. Tullip Mania.
en.wikipedia.org...
Thats what America reminds me off. And I can see the price of tullips crashing.

I cannot fathom why these Aussie's continuously berate America and its people! First, let me begin by saying, "I AM AN AMERICAN AND A VERY PROUD AMERICAN!" These Australians repeat over and over how American's are arrogant, yet, we say nothing about our military prowess and power until we have to defend it. Second, we need absolutely no military assistance from any country if we were attacked by other world powers but...you better at least offer. American's have sacrificed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of its citizens to defeat enemies of Europe and Asia! Admit it, the United States has saved Europe and Asians @sses on many occasions, so stand down! The Australian government has requested military assistance in the Asian Pacific region, in case China were to provoke war in that region. As of now, we are relocating 60% our most technologically advanced military hardware and ship fleets to the Asian Pacific. Why? Because countries such as your are asking for it!

The United States is having monetary issues but I swear on my life, it WILL NOT take us down! It has happened a couple other times in history and we prevailed. Call me arrogant all you want but America and its military will prevail because it is in our blood. Hate us all you want and berate us all you care too, just do it sitting there in your home behind your computer. I would enjoy watching you demean an American while looking in his eyes. You would get a butt kicking like you've never experienced before.

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I'm not trying to defend Stalin in any way.
Yes, he wanted what became The Warsaw Pact countries both for their mineral wealth and as a buffer zone between Russia and Germany.
I think that Russia believed they had some historical right to parts of Poland, The Baltic States and parts of Finland but he never expressed a wish to control the whole of western Europe.
Obviously the peoples of these contested nations disagreed with him.

That's all.

Originally posted by Germanicus
What do you mean who was the enemy? Im from Australia. Japan was the enemy. And Germany was the enemy. The Rats Of Tobruk kicked German ass like nobody else.

and Im no Hitlere fan. I think he did some good things and he achieved alot but Im no fan. What do you mean by that question?

I had these maps stashed away for debates with those who are of the "The US Didn't do much in WWII" ilk pundits. For the Eurocentric crowd WWII wasn't just fought in Europe! I'll let these speak for themselves.

Japanese expansion WWII

US Marines beach landings WWII

Too many detractors of US participation always give us credit for D-Day the Sixth of June in Europe but either choose to ignore or are ignorant of the ferocity and shear brutality of what went on in the Pacific. Most are not aware of the magnitude in logistics for such a large theater not to mention the volume of landings that took place in the Pacific theater of operation that went on day after day, week after week, month in and month out, over and over again. The following video is of only one such landings, There were many many more that took place.

US Marines Beach Landing 1944

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No it isn't the IMF isn't a US government function nor is our central banking system, the Federal Reserve.The fed is private and thus are exempt from American policy.Which is why people disappear or die when they try to audit the Fed.Theres your crux, theres your monsters.They are responsible for black funding which is how TRILLIONS of dollars can disappear.
The IMF is the NATO of banking from 188 nations headed by a woman from France that is headquartered here.Their main function apparently is the redistribution of wealth their biggest borrowers being Greece,Ireland ,Portugal,Romania and Ukraine

The world could NOT have stopped the Germans without any US involvement which is why the Japanese were allowed to bomb pearl harbor after we cut off their resources.Hitler's scientists were damn close if not then successful in the acquisition of atomic power.Yes Russia massed on their border so Hitler took that bait and started a second front,distracting him from England when he actually had them but wouldn't invade.

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The Australian government has requested military assistance in the Asian Pacific region, in case China were to provoke war in that region.

You dont know what you are talking about.

I live here. I am informed. The Australian Government has to defend itself for allowing America into pressuring us into it.
Do you know what Australia cares about? Mines. MINES! Who do we get all our money from? China. CHINA! The mines are what we care about and our economy. We are not scared of China. Dont be absurd. We thank god for China.

China is the reason that we,Australia are number one,happyiest OECD nation. America is not even second.

And America has never saved Australia. Never. We owe you nothing. You owe us.

Originally posted by Shred
That's assuming no one is bat# enough to use nukes. ]

You know what happens when we assume... Economic warfare would certainly change our lives, but it wouldn't be the end of America, just America as we know it; which I'm not too against at the moment.

Originally posted by Germanicus
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The Australian government has requested military assistance in the Asian Pacific region, in case China were to provoke war in that region.

You dont know what you are talking about.

I live here. I am informed. The Australian Government has to defend itself for allowing America into pressuring us into it.
Do you know what Australia cares about? Mines. MINIES! Who do we get all our money from? China. CHINA! The mines are what we care about and our economy. We are not scared of China. Dont be absurd. We thank god for China.

China is the reason that we,Australia are number one,happyiest OECD nation. America is not even second.

And America has never saved Australia. Never. We owe you nothing. You owe us.

Well its nice to know how all you Aussies truly feel... When that fateful day comes and China (or whichever superpower) decides to invade your country I hope you guys are prepared to fight that battle alone, bceuase you made it perfectly clear that you guys dont need a shady partner like USA defending you, and I know the last thing you want is for us to save your asses and you needing to OWE us something... If we break a part soon, I hope you guys fair well on your own. I know my country will be just fine, can you say the same thing??

Originally posted by ANIMALM0THR
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Europe was so scared of Hitler they handed him The Rhineland, Austria, and the Czech Replublic on a silver platter just so they could avoid warfare with Germany. You want to call America and Americans cowards but lest you forget we had to go in and rescue your dandy countries b/c you wouldnt stand up for yourselves in beginning of it. Funny how you don't mention that.

Whether you like it or not, the USA played a HUGE role in ending world war II. I am not ignorantly saying that we did it alone, to say that is almost as absurd as saying that the Allies had world war II all but won until the USA jumped in. Had Hitler had to face the USSR alone on 1 front, who knows what would have happened.

Whether you like it or not, the USA played an integral role in the liberation of Europe. Ever hear of D-Day?


You can hate the USA all you want, but at least get your history right.

Have you seen how China treats its own citizens?

Have you seen how soft and pathetic Europeans are in general? What makes you think we need your bull# alliances to fight anyone? We single handidly took down Iraq in 3 weeks while we were kicking ass in Afganistan. Our army is hardcore and our soldiers are bad ass mother#ers. I'd love to see china try to invade America. Our street gangs would kick the # out of Chinese police/military alone. Unlike you soft ass pacifist cowards, we are a violent nation. We love guns. We love UFC.

I've been to europe. I'm a head taller than everyone. All the Europeans in the streets parted when me and my cousins were rolling through. Except for Scotland and England, everywhere I went, you all look malnourished. You all have #ty ass tattoos. Your men dress like sissies/dandies/women. They like to smile, and dance, and a bunch of naively happy pussies.

Come to Los Angeles dressed in your capri shorts, baby blue collared shirt, mowahawk mullet hair, seashell necklaces, and you'll get the # kicked out of you. Take a visit to the hospital, on us.


My point is, our general populace's are quite different. If push came to shove, you'd definitly want us on your side. Its a fact. Would we want you on ours? maybe to do the dishes or our laundry.

edit on 2-6-2012 by ANIMALM0THR because: mispell

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why some people get so sick and tired of America(ns?). I've been fortunate enough not to run into this kind of crap during my stay here, so I'll go out on a limb and give the benefit of doubt, and say that most Americans aren't like this person.