I make my own liposomal vit C. This stuff is frickin AMAZING!!!!!

a reply to: Julie Washington

Hi Julie thanks for the info. He is still here & still walking 4.5 miles
a day with me. His tumor has now enlarged quite a bit as it is growing
outwardly. It drains quite a bit but we both keep it clean & apply
antibiotics. It has at least doubled in size in 2 months.

My Lethicin arrived this weekend so I will be making more Lipo C
tomorrow. We have both been without it for a week. I hoping we can get
through the holidays. We will keep going along with the program until quality
of life happens.

I use your way of making & strength...Dirk's been getting 2 oz in his food
in the a.m. & another 2 oz in the p.m. Never had any diarrhea or any
complications from the Vit C.

I will pass the Vet info along to a friend of mine that has cattle.

Thanks Red.

Cheers
Ektar

Ektar,

Since Vitamin C has been proven to kill basal cell cancers on the skin with a topical application, have you considered making a paste and applying it directly to the tumor to see if it has any affect?

Can anyone help me on a question I asked earlier ?
Sodium l ascorbate or ascorbic acid ?

I'm just making a batch for a friend who has cancer and would like to know which is preferable.
Thanks.

a reply to: lambros56

Lambros - I'm not real up on the differences... so I will defer the question to others that know more. But my guess is Ascorbic Acid.

I would recommend you read more about Vitamin C and cancer on the ViitaminCFoundation.org forum. This forum is run by doctors who very schooled on Vitamin C therapy.

a reply to: Julie Washington


Thanks Julie.
Yes I've visited that site as you gave it to me a while back.

The reason I ask is I was in touch with Dr Sydney Bush who, when I told him I'd been using ascorbic acid for over a year. Told me I should make the mixture with sodium l ascorbate.
I've asked around on different sites etc but can't find anyone who knows if there's a difference but no luck as yet.

a reply to: lambros56

Lambros, well I think Dr. Bush is the one you should ask why he thinks you should make it with ascorbate. What are his reasons?

Because ascorbic acid is acidic, it tends to act as an acid when mixed with water. "Acting as an acid" means that ascorbic acid loses one of its hydrogen atoms, resulting in production of a closely related molecule called ascorbate, with the chemical formula C6H7O6. Because they're so closely related, it's not uncommon for scientists to refer to ascorbate as ascorbic acid--or vice versa. This is because whenever you consume ascorbic acid, some of it converts into ascorbate, and whenever you consume ascorbate, some of it converts into ascorbic acid.

Ascorbate

a reply to: Julie Washington

No I haven't tried that....thank you, I will be making
more today & I will apply it to the tumor as best as
I can. Half of it is internal & painful for him to even
try that part, however I will try to squirt some in there.

I will continue the oral as well. Thanks.

Cheers
Ektar

Please be gentle, and dilute, and mix with baking soda for an ascorbate -- remember AA is an *acid* and may hurt.

Although I've heard rumor on the web of diluted AA and DMSO helping with light skin cancers, I'm not sure what to think about that until I know someone claiming it, which so far I never have. It seems fairly possible, however a full spectrum of amino acids and full spectrum of vitamins and minerals is what I'd consider critical prior to everything else that was a spot treatment, you might say. The liver is crucial to everything and if it doesn't have its own healing, let alone the raw materials it needs, it can't rebuild the body.

I'm sorry you're going through this with your animal friend. That is so hard.

RC

a reply to: RedCairo

Thank you so kindly. I made a new batch a wee bit
ago. I always add the sodium bicarb. This time I only
added 3 tablespoons & I would have to taste it again
as I only barely licked my finger but it still wasn't sour.
So I was happy about that as I used to use equal amounts
of AA. The last batch I used 4 tab of sodium bicarb
so I thought I would try 3 tablespoons this time.

I still use 6 tab of AA & have been happy with the batches
even though it still taste foul. I just take a swig of whatever
is cold right behind it.

The batch is now in the fridge chilling before we have
our doses. Plus I think the rub will feel better chilled.

Cheers
Ektar

Liposomal Vitamin C wiki is inaccessible. I was sending links to that page to friends. Is there a fix coming or is it gone for good?

a reply to: Julie Washington
Hey Julie,
Lots of love and respect for keeping the thread going. I'm still taking my Lipo-C, still the same boost and kick since day one of this original post.

How is your health?

a reply to: dominicus

Thanks for checking in Dominicus!

Everything excellent here. Taking my Lipo C every day, along with the family.

Just passed 2 full years of perfect health! Thanks to YOU!

Give it to my hubby, also hasn't been sick in 2 years.

Also give it to my grandkids (when I can). All colds and especially ear infections down 90%!

I'm incredibly impressed you can get your grandkids to take it Julie. My daughter is 18 and knows how good for her it is and still can't force the taste of it down her throat!

a reply to: RedCairo

RedCairo - I put a one ounce shot in their sippy cups with juice - they don't even taste it.

I've been making a variant lately.
Still the same formula of:
1.5 cups water and 3 Tbsp (45g) lecithin and 1 Tbsp (15g) ascorbic.

But I add (extra to that) .5 Tbsp ascorbic and .5 Tbsp d-Ribose, and I dissolve all the ascorbic and ribose in all the water first using bullet blender.

THEN I add the lecithin to the water and bullet blend, and let it all sit about 30m. Then I blend it again and dump it into the sonicator for about 48 minutes (8 minute batches, long time between to cool unless room is very cold).

When it's done, I dump in some potassium bicarbonate (baking soda would do just as well) to counteract what I'm sure is some ascorbic that's likely too much to fully emulsify/liposome.

It tastes slightly less vile (probably because the bicarbonate kills most any sour and the ribose is sweet) and so far I am taking about 4oz at a time and not having any issue with flush (I flush at about 1.5g ascorbate). I only just started so I can't report on much except that it's drinkable and it's getting the ribose into me that I want, and any extra C from increasing the dose within 1.5c water doesn't seem to be hurting anything.

I'm going to take a risk here and mention that one of my trusted suppliers has a very good sale price on Ascorbic Acid....

IM me for the name....

Moderators...please, if I'm doing wrong remove this post (but not me please...!)

Thanks,
Tarasco

(PS: I'm not related to any company but am a firm believer in Liposomal C [and Lip Glutathione and Lip Alpha Lipoic Acid])

a reply to: lambros56

Lambros....

I believe the "ascorbate" is basically Ascorbic acid mixed with a bicarbonate...Na (sodium...ie Baking Soda) or K (Potassium) and others.... en.m.wikipedia.org...

The "L" form is one of two variants of the Ascorbic Acid molecule...the other form is the "D" enantiomer....

"Dextro=D": right
"Levo=L" left

en.m.wikipedia.org...


I think he was being scientifically correct using the "L" designation but it may not matter with Vit C....

Perhaps your Doc's concern was to get you taking a less acidic more basic (think pH) form of Vit C....

Also, I find that adding a small bit of baking soda neutralizes the fishy acidic mouth feel of my Lip C and makes it even taste somewhat sweet....

I've been taking NaBicarb for years to alleviate allergic reactions....

Ideally, we should be taking something called Tri Salts...Potassium (K), Magnesium (Mg), and Calcium (Ca)...no Sodium...! www.hoffmancenter.com...

This helps to keep a better mineral balance in our bodies and removes the Sodium from the equation because we eat too much table salt (and potato chips...my guilty pleasure)

Hope this was of some help....

Tarasco

I went for maybe 6 months with no Lipo C, I guess I just got lazy when I ran out and never ordered anymore ingredients. I noticed that I hurt a lot more, and I am developing arthritis in my thumb which is really painful and effecting my ability to do my job.

I whipped up a batch and been taking it again for a week or so. It sure makes a difference in my pain levels, and the inflammation in my thumb is better by half at least taking the Lipo C a couple times a day. I think I will stick with it from now on. It is a lot easier with my big sonicator and I make 6 cups at a time, or enough to fill up two Gatorade bottles so it keeps me in supply for a lot longer between having to prepare batches. Very happy with my larger sonicator machine.

a reply to: Tarasco

Hi Tarasco. Yes, that was really helpful.
I had a feeling it was similar to the baking soda mix.
Thanks again.

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to Everyone!
Be Safe

Cheers
Ektar