There Are LOADS Of Jobs Out There, But People Don't Want To Work!

I graduated with a 2:1 degree 3 years ago. I've applied for every single job I can find and not just jobs related to my degree but anything from bar jobs, shop assistant, call centres, general office work, anything.

The only job I've had in the past 3 years since graduating was a 6 month temporary job fixing wheelchairs as a trainee. The job was a government funded scheme and the company had no intention of taking me on permanently, once my time was up they would just get someone else onto the scheme for free labour.

That was a year ago and I have applied for every single job I can find.
It has now got to the point where I have signed up for voluntary work and I have now started an 8 week work placement doing general admin/office work for a charity.

How do you think threads like this make me feel?

Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
I graduated with a 2:1 degree 3 years ago. I've applied for every single job I can find and not just jobs related to my degree but anything from bar jobs, shop assistant, call centres, general office work, anything.

The only job I've had in the past 3 years since graduating was a 6 month temporary job fixing wheelchairs as a trainee. The job was a government funded scheme and the company had no intention of taking me on permanently, once my time was up they would just get someone else onto the scheme for free labour.

That was a year ago and I have applied for every single job I can find.
It has now got to the point where I have signed up for voluntary work and I have now started an 8 week work placement doing general admin/office work for a charity.

How do you think threads like this make me feel?

You don't need a job to make money. If you managed to make it through college, you are smart enough and most likely strong willed enough to make an income for yourself without a boss, a steady paycheck, and regular hours.

Or are you already doing this?

I've got a thread going about how to create an income for yourself (no scams) linked in the bottom of my posts. If you gave it a read, something might strike you.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
How easy is it to get a plumber to your house same day and sometimes same week?
How often does a plumber call you back even?
And how much does it cost?

This market is thirsty for more plumbers
More plumbers is more competition which will be better prices for you as well

What about an electrician?
Are they easy to get at your home same day?

And even more importantly landscapers
You call a landscaper sure they may come same day, but when will they start the project?
Sometimes months or weeks ahead
Sometimes they give you a quote and never call you back
Sometimes they come to do an estimation and they never send you the quote unless they do it onsite

Many of these guys are either irresponsible or they have so many contracts to work on that they don't care
And that's from the horse's mouth

There are plenty of jobs out there
But when people think of jobs they only think about the help wanted ads or monster.com
They never think of starting their own business and THAT is the problem

They wait for a job to come to them instead of them themselves going towards a new business initiative

Come on people!

I realize that this is not universal truth, some areas in ghettos have very little buyers for landscaping and also may live in appartments where the landloard takes care of it.

But in the city and suburbs there's loads of jobs
And if you live in a ghetto maybe you can drive outside of town for such a job and then move out

However let's not say there's no jobs out there
That's just not true

I'm not saying it's easy out there, but you don't jump to "There's No Jobs!!!"

While you are correct, something tells me you are comfortable.

reply to post by ModernAcademia

This is what you get paid in the uk There are different levels of NMW, depending on your age and whether you are an apprentice. The current rates are:

Rates from 1 October 2012

£6.19 - the main rate for workers aged 21 and over
£4.98 - the 18-20 rate
£3.68 - the 16-17 rate for workers above school leaving age but under 18
£2.65 - the apprentice rate, for apprentices under 19 or 19 or over and in the first year of their apprenticeship

The only problem is so many business are closing and companies don't want to give out permanent positions so they tend to offer Temporary or part time work.
I am not saying there is no work out there There is
But ask yourself, if you where an out of work plumber? Would you work for a company who paid you 9.79 dollars and hour and would this pay bills?

Yea the stupid work..same in Germany, same overall.

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Hopefully it lights a fire for you my friend. Whatever goverment institution that it was that stole your time and money has long moved on to the next foolish mortal that falls prey to the pressure of their parents misled advice. If I was wrong with my diagnoses, then you would not be stating your case. There has never been a more crystal clear example of a system that is set up to steal a young soul's time and money than the scam of families sending their youth off to these schools of mindless left wing drivel and the introduction into the brutal world of alcohol and drugs and every other negative aspect that comes along with it. You can build your own life. You can make a future for yourself and all you need is an idea. ~$heopleNation

I was 6 months unemployed. I had a mortgage to pay so my savings were decimated. If you are in that situation, you don't get very far on JSA and a bit of council tax relief. Looking for work was a full time job in itself. My age went against me (don't say it doesn't happen) as did my qualifications even. The low spec near minimum wage employers (and the job centre was full of them) rightly assumed I was only looking at them as a temporary fix, while the other openings were over subscribed to the extent that they were able to raise the bar incredibly high. In the end I got a temporary, low paid, part time job - one of the few where my age was actually a selling point! However it paid little more than the benefit I was getting and I suspect not many people would do this. But the risk paid off - job made permanent, better pay, more hours.
But just seen, here in the UK and on another site, someone moaning that her mother's total benefit is going to be capped at - wait for it - £500 a week. And that she was going to lose around £250 per week. I was gobsmacked. Her mother is a genuine disabled person in need but plenty others are takers. Plus fat cat landlords have been raking it in via their tenants' housing benefit.
I worked out that the mother's current benefit was equivalent to a salary of over £50,000 per year pre tax. No wonder we have problems.

Originally posted by Atom12
I absolutely agree. There are jobs. There are also lots of people who have learned how to work the system to get welfare, etc. and would rather do that than be employed. Studies in other countries have shown that entitlement programs just create more people getting entitlements.

Hell yeah why should I work for slave wages? I'm not Chinese. Im not stupid either I'd rather stay on welfare. If I get a job at Walmart by the time I pay for fuel car repairs and insurance I'm working for free. If I'm gonna work for free in the most expensive country on the planet to live in. I might as well sit on my rear and do nothing.

The handout I'm getting aint nothing in the grand scheme of things. Look at what the the government gave to the banks. The rich use us poor just to scare those fortunet enough to make a living wage. They scare you in the media by telling you what to think of us. As if we're the real threat to the middle class. If I were you I'd be more afraid of the rich because they won't be happy till they get control of everything in this country. And you know what they'll get it eventually.

I just figured it out...I am just going to be a house DJ, and start throwing garage parties...Get the crowd coming and explode from there. I will put Pauly D out of work

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I actually agree w the op. At least here in new jersey....EVERYONE I know out of work saw a 2 year unemployment gravy train and rode it thinking they had plenty of time to find a job 1 year and 8 months down the road... well guess what that didn't work out. And prob 3 out of 5 worked under the table during that time. To put it simple most people are lazy! You get comfortable and have a need for a job "title". Guess what its not there. Stop thinking something is beneath you because you went to school and became a lawyer or teacher or skilled professional. I know people making a living scooping dogs poop! Yup... $10.00/yd cash doin 200-300 clients per week. Do the math there. How about selling drinks on the street corner traffic light? Key is yes there are no office jobs or health care or accounting or even fast food. Think outside the box. In construction right now ANYONE can get a job as unskilled labor! Oh and yup your not gonna get 350.00 or 200.00/day as a skilled carpenter. I own my business and couldnt either if I wanted. Common sense we cant collect normal rates for jobs BUT you wanna make $10.00-17.00 there's plenty out there. Its food for your family. Even my wife who was a legal assistant could get a 10.00/hr job as a laborer with another contractor. Oh yeah and right now I got 5 guys working. $17,$26,$26,$37 and $47.00/hr. Clean up off the weed, get your drivers license and have a desire to earn a days wages instead of waiting for a job title..... oh btw I'm hiring temps for next 4 months. None can pass drug screen, background check or have license that apply. I get tired of guys calling and have brass ones to say "buddy my tuck down leave my driveway for under $35.00/hr". That's the problem..... everything is beneath us lazy complaicant Americans. Oh and yes next generation is far more lazy! When I was early 20s here was priorities: (1) work, (2) school (3) social/party wherever it fit in down the line. Next generation. (1) party, (2) school (3) work if it fits n with partying......

lol move along people. i guarantee you this guy is in his 30's and his mother was still supporting him while he read some books. now that he's made a buck or two, he thinks the world should bow to his accomplishment.

My gf is an adviser in a Job Centre. (for those outside UK, a Job Centre is a depressing government office where unemployed & unemployable people look for jobs, collect benefit payments, shout at & assault the staff, piss on the floor or blade each other)(or some combination of all of that)

They recently invited nearly 200 unemployed people to a series of group sessions ... a local employer had 40+ vacancies to fill. Full time, call centre (not sales ... inbound banking), £2 ph above minimum wage. That's more than my GF gets paid.

Of those invited, only 27 turned up.

Says it all really.

Nope far from it! High school drop out. Got GED and nearly associates in cad and engineering while working full time 60 hrs per week, realized no money in the fields and stuck to construction. No body helped me. I got a place to live and couldnt afford silver ware plates or furniture. Save McDonald's cups. To drink from. Had a tool box and hammer that's it! Again. Had NOBODy to help me except my own will and the man up stairs looking down on me. Yup I'm 37..... don't hate because I speak the truth......

Originally posted by LeBombDiggity
My gf is an adviser in a Job Centre. (for those outside UK, a Job Centre is a depressing government office where unemployed & unemployable people look for jobs, collect benefit payments, shout at & assault the staff, piss on the floor or blade each other)(or some combination of all of that)

They recently invited nearly 200 unemployed people to a series of group sessions ... a local employer had 40+ vacancies to fill. Full time, call centre (not sales ... inbound banking), £2 ph above minimum wage. That's more than my GF gets paid.

Of those invited, only 27 turned up.

Says it all really.

Not at all. Have you worked in a call center before? Especially an inbound call center probable for americans as well? Its like walking into a prison where you get screamed at and made to feel like garbage. Lots of people have issues with people screaming at them on the phone, im not surprised.

Note: America contains over 40million unemployed/underemployed.
So What people are saying is that 40mil people are just lazy and don't want to work?

Some people don't have the option to go from making 25 an hour, to 8 an hour. It just doesn't make sense, you make more money being on EI then actually working for minimum wage. I guess its just hard for people to see that no matter what job you do, you're still getting robbed, still a slave making money for your corporate masters.

I went to college, have my degree in IT, and i work in Telecommunications. I make 31k a year salary, which is just enough really. In aaallll of Canada, and allll the jobs similar and the same as ours. Our pay scale is in the bottom 2%. That means 98% of people in canada who have the same job as me, make much more than i do. I used to work with guys that made double the amount of money i did, for less work.

And whats really funny, There are still no jobs.
I need 2 - 5 years experience to get a GOOD job in IT. And thats relevant experience.
There are no jobs offering that experience. So therefor i will never be able to get that job because getting the experience is next to impossible unless you already have some strings to pull, which i dont.

Op is just comfortable.
Doesn't see that he's being used just like the rest of the world.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by Infi8nity

 

The topic is not there's no jobs
It's not a lazy thread

This is thread is there ARE jobs!

There are jobs.. But there are a lot more unemployed than there are jobs.. So whats your point.

These are highly skilled jobs which takes year's of training but more importantly, 'experience' before you can start a career in these trades. Just before I launched my Web Design company a couple of months back, i'd been working part-time as a plumber for someone in my family and like Electricians and Landscapers, it isn't just a simple job any tom, dick and harry can jump straight into.

To summarise. Yes you are right, we are lacking individuals working in these types of trades, however we are lacking a lot of jobs in other industries which are more suitable for the 'average' person...well at least in the UK anyway!

This thread is really interesting -as it shows how capitalistic-cultures have changed
in the last couple of generations.
For many here, you worked not-just to bring money into the household, but to
also show your standing in society, the idea of being on the Welfare-teat was
something to feel ashamed about.

Personally, I thought that working ten hours-a-day, Six days-a-week cleaning toilets,
emptying trashcans and lugging crates also gave me a work-ethic, a discipline that
would help me in other areas.
It did and as a side-note, I felt that it made my parents and friends proud.

Today it has changed.
'What's the point?' are the watchwords and the idea of seeking out one's future is
seen as a pipe-dream that belongs on an episode of 'Little House On The Prairie'

As another here has said, the TV tells us what to do now.

Apparently 'working' an intersection in HOT weather Tampa pays more than landscaping. For 2 years I've been seeing the same mid-30's dude working the same intersection not too far from here. He's up on his feet walking back and forth and around the whole time out there. That's where theres no shade whatsoever. Busy intersection with HOT pavement (Urban Heat Island Effect) is his 'workplace'. That is in central Florida one of the hottest places int eh US, where most of fall/spring and all of winter it only rains a few times. This is a place where there is major 'competition' working these intersections as I've seen up to 8 people working single intersections in this city over the past couple years.

If that dude at his age can march around all day in scorching heat, he can surely work most any of the construction type jobs this thread alludes to. Even if entry level jobs in these areas only pay $10 per hour, which what do you expect to get paid as entry level, whatever the case its more profitable to 'work' an intersection.

Another angle is the 'pretty projects' nearby, people there own cars that include shiny new BMW's, VW's and even shiny new looking MiniCoopers! Those are just some of the nice new looking 'stock' cars I see over there, while there are also bling bling mobiles with rims etc galore to be found.

Also consider there is one single place in the metro that rents, thats right rents rims. It's found dead center of the lower income corridor of the main city. Something tells me the surrounding area might possibly collect more government 'benefits' than all the places that don't have a local rim rental shop nearby.

reply to post by cetaphobic


An apprenticeship in most all skilled trades is in fact free. Plus, as an apprentice you make a percentage of what full scale journeyman does. Is usually around 50% to start and depending on the area most skilled trades are making around 23 to 30 dollars an hour ...

I can't see how this is a bad deal other than its labor in sometimes uncomfortable environments but that's why its called work, lol

Does it make me a lazy person if I refuse to work in a Mc Donald's?
I cannot in good conscience work at that place. Their food is killing people and it's toxic.