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Originally posted by Phage
Gomes offers two alternatives;
1) A Neptune sized object with an orbit of 140 billion miles. Such an object would have an orbital period of about 58,000 years. Not quite the 3,600 which Sitchin claimed for his mythical Nibiru.
2) A Mars sized object which has a perihelion of 5 billion miles. Nibiru is supposed to intrude upon the inner Solar System every 3,600 years. 5 billion miles is beyond the orbit of Pluto. That doesn't qualify either.edit on 5/14/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by 1AnunnakiBastard
So Sitchin was off by only 55,000 years? That doesn't really fit in very well with the rest of his story.
There have been a number of such hypotheses. None of which have any hard evidence to support them.
The Sumerians called several different things Nibiru; including a star and Jupiter.
The existence of an object anything like Nibiru (which, as Sitchin would have us believe, periodically enters the inner Solar System) is a physical impossibility. It would disrupt the orbits of the planets hopelessly.
Originally posted by storm2012
Originally posted by MamaJ
Not a nibiru believer however anyone who has studied our Universe should know its filled with possibilites. We have observed space for only a short time.
What do we know for certain that will not change?
Everyone throwing out insults based on scientific "fact" is blowing me away with laughter.
Really.... I want to know from some of you die hard "science is fact believers" to tell me what is certain that will never ever change?
MamaJ, I know Universe is very complex and it is filled with possibilites. But this astronomers or scientist, you really think they just found this planet now. If they can find other galaxies, other clusters, other earth like planets thousand of light years away, what makes you believe this scientist are telling a fact. They dont even know our own solar system yet, and they are finding other planets outside of our own galaxy. And belive it or not universe is very complex and there is not only one universe, there are millions of other universes -- source (Hinduism), we are just one universe. There are much more advanced universes out there, cant explain all the details, but other more advanced universes exist. Its going to be hard for you to believe this, but that's a fact from the ancient text.
Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
If he's correct, this could be the astronomical find that finally corroborates the translations of Sumerians tablets made by Zecharia Sitchin. The intriguing part is how this object is keeping itself hidden from Earth telescopes... Perhaps it's not really a planet... Perhaps it's artificial in nature...
Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
Originally posted by Just Chris
But the article doesn't once mention that it may or may not be Nibiru, just a rogue planet with a size similar to Pluto. Doesn't exactly fit NIBIRU descriptions.
With that in mind however, will be interesting to see what comes of this?
I never said the article mentions Nibiru. It's my own reasoning that it COULD BE the same object from Sumerian genesis. And I assume you didn't read the whole article because he states the object could be 4 times bigger than Earth, was dragged into our Sun's orbit with a very elongated path.
Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
...And by the way "winged planet" is only an ICON used by Sumerians to depict what they saw in the sky, and it could have been anything INCLUDING an alien space station...
I've been an amateur astronomer for a long time and while I don't really subscribe to the whole planet- X hype I certainly don't just fly off at the mouth and call it a myth like I know what the universe holds for light years upon light years!
Atum's name is thought to be derived from the word 'tem' which means to complete or finish. Thus he has been interpreted as being the 'complete one' and also the finisher of the world, which he returns to watery chaos at the end of the creative cycle. As creator he was seen as the underlying substance of the world, the deities and all things being made of his flesh or alternatively being his ka.
In the Heliopolitan creation myth, Atum was considered to be the first god, having created himself, sitting on a mound (benben) (or identified with the mound itself), from the primordial waters (Nu).[1] Early myths state that Atum created the god Shu and goddess Tefnut from spitting her out of his mouth.[2] In the Old Kingdom the Egyptians believed that Atum lifted the dead king's soul from his pyramid to the starry heavens.[3] He was also a solar deity, associated with the primary sun god Ra. Atum was linked specifically with the evening sun, while Ra was associated more with the morning sun.[4]
In arranging his thoughts and their visible forms Khepera was assisted by the goddess Maat, who is usually regarded as the goddess of law, order, and truth, and in late times was held to be the female counterpart of Thoth, "the heart of the god Ra." In this legend, however, she seems to play the part of Wisdom, as described in the Book of Proverbs, 1 for it was by Maat that he "laid the foundation." Having described the coming into being of Khepera and the place on which he stood, the legend goes on to tell of the means by which the first Egyptian triad, or trinity, came into existence. Khepera had, in some form, union with his own shadow, and so begot offspring, who proceeded from his body under the forms of the gods Shu and Tefnut. According to a tradition preserved in the Pyramid Texts 2 this event took place at On (Heliopolis)
Because of this, they also associated the Khepri with rebirth, renewal, and resurrection. Indeed, his name means "to come into being". As a result of this, when the rival cult of the sun-god Ra gained significance, Khepri was identified as the aspect of Ra which constitutes only the dawning sun (i.e. the sun when it comes into being).
Neptune is invisible to the naked eye as it is too dim. Its apparent magnitude is never brighter than 7.7.