Originally posted by bet555
CAN ANYONE UNDERSTAND ME OR AM I ALONE IN THINKING THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE TO THIS PLACE.
Please don't use all caps, it reads as if you are yelling.
Why do you think these things are true? Have you seen a psychologist? What do they think about this? Have you ever been on medication, or are you
supposed to be on it now? I am not saying this to be 'insulting', some people might take it that way, but there is really nothing wrong with taking
medication or seeing a psychologist.
you have to be able to think freely before you can think rationally.
Actually its quite the opposite, at least if one doen't want the 'free thinking' to be strongly slanted torwards paranoia.
But I understand what you are gettting at, you are saying people could be having their minds controlled in such a way that they don't even know it,
that they think thier thoughts and actions are their own when in reality they are being controlled by some other entity. Or am I misunderstanding
you?
tandino
I'm not, however, prepared to go into them for fear of being branded a 'lone wolf' or debunked and discredited
You pretend to be a free thinker but you make a statement like that? If your thoughts cannot be clearly abnd coherently put forward so that others
can analyse and understand them, well, why even mention that you have them? If you are reaching blocks or limits in your perception, why not try to
explain them? Perhaps others have gotten past similiar blocks? Also, and i think this is a decent rule of thumb, if you can't explain something to
someone else, then you don't
really understand it. (actually I think that the original saying was something liek 'don't try to explain
something you don't understand' or some such)
springer
Originally, it was invented so Man could track when to harvest and when sow seeds. TRUTH!
The calender was invented for this purpose, but time itself wasn't invented for that. Consider a universe with out time. I would say it would look
like one of two things. One would be a static universe, where noting moves, nothing changes, and nothing fluctuates grows or anything. What is time
but the passage of change no? The other option is basically the same, however, instead of say a set of ball bearings held motionless (with even their
atoms motionless and their electrons motionelss etc etc) in an otherwise empty universe like the previous example, this is a universe where those ball
bearings rolled all over the place, but, with 'time' removed, the bearings are simultaneously present at all possible positions of their rolling
paths. In a sense this is really the same thing as the other, but I think it does serve to distinguish between time as lack of change and time as that
which allows us to experience events 'in sequence'.
Reality", is a construct, invented by Man to create order out of seeming chaos... So he might survive!
Man must create a perception of reality, definitely, but there is some sort of objective reality out there that man is perceiving no? Unexpected
things happen, heck other people exist even. While the actual perception in my mind of the colour 'blue' is an illusury perception, there is still
a series of photons streaming from said object at a particular wavelength that are hitting the molecules of my eyes causing them to react in a
specific way and sending a particular series of electric impulses down my nerces into a bundle of nerves called a brain and registering as
'wavelength x at postion 1156 by 1145 at time 1467 etc etc' and my perception is the colour blue at that position at that time. Similarly, if a
pipe smashes me in the skull, bradykinins are realeased by my nerves, and other chemical receptors are released and a signal is send that there is
pressure and pain and the sensation of blood running down my head and other perceptions. But a particular drug or neuro-transmiter blocker will stop
me from feeling pain or any sensation, or even make me feel entirely different sensations or perceive that something entirely different is happening,
but I'll still be a twitching body crumpled on the floor with serious head trauma.
Who among us can prove otherwise?
I would say that no one can disprove this arguement, which is something like 'solipism', however, if it is true, why does science work then? Why can
a guy a thousand years ago take a stick, put the middle of it ontop of a rock, and push down on one end and use the other to lift an inordinately
heavy rock, and why can a guy today do the same thing?
bet555
I think that another WAY WAY more advanced race put us here
Why do you think this?
bet555
Hence the reason we started with Adam and Eve.
Why are you giving that particular myth any credence?
bet555
We now don't live to Fish Hunt and play we live to Drive our BMW to the store and Show off our new wife Boobs with my New Rolex.
I am sorry to say that primitive man lived (and primitive socieites today still live) mean violent existences. Perhaps they were happy with it, but
if people are happy driving their bmw and their wife with implants and a partiuclarly shiny time-keeping device, well, why denigrate that happiness?
And if people aren't happy with it, as many obviously aren't, why assume that they would be happier if they had to break their bones to bring down
large prey, or had to stay up all night to make sure the fire was still going to keep the hungy wolves away, or worrying about having their skulls
gnawed on by their neighbors?
maybe the bible is this journal
Why would they give us the bible then? And how would the bible be a journal of this experiment? Its terribly inaccurate and imprecise. If it was a
log book kept by the creators then it would have to look completely different or else it wouldn't be a log book of an experiment.
What do you think happend.
As far as what, how humans came into existance? Humans, being apes, evolved from more primitive apes. Humans weren't the only 'intelligent' apes,
(or rather, the lineage that would become modern humans) and they lived with and competed with these other life forms and other tribes of their own
life forms. Eventually, the way it worked out, and for whatever the reasons, the other homonids became extinct, and only
homo sapiens was
left. Or did you mean what do I think about the bible and how its changed? I think that the people that created the stories, that some of the stories
were passed on orally for a long time, and that eventually some were written down amoung some peoples. I think that people copied from manuscripts
these books for a long time, but maybe they also memorized the words and passed the stories as oral tradition even after they were written down.
Either way errors were introduced, and, also, either way, a lot was conserved. But, more important than that, the context and allegorical and literal
meaing of most of it has been lost, with the result now that people today don't understand it in the same way that people 6-7 thousand years ago did.
The new testament, being a more recent series of texts, have a different story of their history.