"We are Preparing for Massive Civil War," Says DHS Informant

Originally posted by Leftist
Are you prepared?

I won't be advertising if I'm prepared or not. That's asking for trouble ...

And do you know what side you are going to stand on?

Depends on what the 'sides' are. I'm willing to bet there will be a BUNCH of factions.

Originally posted by gunshooter
here is an honest question, weather the government could round us up or not. do any of you think that we truly, honestly are headed for some type of American "Civil" war in the near future?

I guess someday it almost has to happen.
We would be fools to think that our Constitution will hold us together forever. Especially with the pressure that it is under.
There have also been attempted coups in our history, maybe someday someone will attempt one and be successful.
When will such a thing ever happen? Maybe tomorrow, then again, maybe not in my grandchildren's lifetime.
Who could say for sure?

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Depends on what the 'sides' are. I'm willing to bet there will be a BUNCH of factions.

Amen.

That would be a reason for any of TPTB to promote divisiveness in our country. The more factions fighting each other, the less chance of them defeating the real enemy(those PTB).

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You know that if this is true then all the liberal leftists got their way and this is the result of it?

Not just talking about OWS ether. You gave up all of your rights and power to the government hoping they would save the world and then started chaos in major cities.........

So yeah of course something like this is going to happen.

All though the article seems a bit sketchy and I would like to see better sources.
This Doug Hagmann seems like he makes money on this and other subjects
selling books. Any one know if hes full of crap?

uh no, magma.

my buddy owns a 338Lapua, and I am better with it than him. he is a gun collector and has a pretty sweet collection. He already said that when SHTF I can borrow it. Pretty sure between that and the saiga semi 308, I can make a decent stand for a while.

Lets see whats what when the 338 starts spewing $5 bills their way. I guess thats why tptb have drones. Probably get schwacked with one of those.

This reminds me of the bowling alley hero in his barber shop shirt out in the garage facing the alley, sucking down PBR's right next to where the neighbor kids hang out by the back fence with their skateboards and bicycles, camping out on the alley couch next to the old stove, and our 'enlightened' bowling alley hero filling all the kids in on how war is going to break out, and the kids hang out because he has a soda machine he lets them use and they think he's nuts but cool. and the sodas free.

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Originally posted by Leftist

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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So, from one spectrum to the other.

How do you feel about DHS?

Not good.

So maybe there is something that both sides CAN agree on.

Originally posted by Bisman
im going to be that jerk that says i welcome the new world order.

i dont believe its just evil banking cabals wanting world rule, i believe they and the banks are themselves, tools that are used to put all this in motion.
i DO believe the ends justify the means (situational), in a world where gradual change for the better is impossible and to late.

and when the time comes to pick sides, i dont think i will take kindly to being called a coward for not joining some anti government revolution. we all have beliefs and values, i dont think im going to 100% base mine on ancient american ones.
change requires everyone change, not everyone BUT the US.

just for my debate above, my values;
athiest
globalist

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I tend to agree with you. I want *a* new world order, I'm just not so sure about THE new world order.

Think about it. Ever wanted to travel freely to explore the world? Not gonna happen without getting blasted by radiation & xray scanners unless we change something. The world DOES need to unite. Open borders could be awesome. Either we can do it ourselves or the powers that be are going to do it for us.

I think we should spin this around on the globalists and eugenicists. People should march on the streets and DEMAND a NWO *but* in such a way that preserves individual liberties.

This said, I think people should also reach deep within themselves and define "liberty". I used to think it meant freedom to eat fast food, promuscuity, bar hopping, etc, but when one thinks about it these activities are the result of moral decadence and a source of many societal problems.

The only true freedom is when you control the emotions and they don't control you.

WWJD -- What would JEDI do?

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Leftist
Are you prepared?

I won't be advertising if I'm prepared or not. That's asking for trouble ...

And do you know what side you are going to stand on?

Depends on what the 'sides' are. I'm willing to bet there will be a BUNCH of factions.

The only factions I see are the 99% and the 1%(with their croney's in the military).

What factions do you see

With the arab spring we saw most armies abandon their leaders and sided with the people. Only in libya and syria is their major fighting and that is because they have soviet support.

History has proved the bankers, scientists, intelligensia mean ABSOLUTE SQUAT and the military means ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING! I am talking history going back thousands of years...not just a few decades!

It will be interesting to see what happens in america and europe when the PLANNED economic chaos hits full gear. It should happen between the next 6 months to the next 5 years, but I don't see a recovery as impossible either.

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Which "side" will we be on? I know what you mean, but it's not that easy! There are no clearly defined "sides." No white hats and black hats, just a bunch of armed and dangerous pissed off desperate people looking for someone to blame!

Think about this drone issue. Last report I read said something like 30,000 drones could be deployed over the next several years. Doesn't it strike you as convenient that they are turning warfare into a video game? The drones will make it less real to the soldiers they are putting behind the controls. Soldiers who grew up in a video game society. This has been in planning for decades.

Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
. How are you going to control 400 million people in cities, towns and villages spread apart from one another in one of the largest continents on earth? Answer, You can't. America is too geographically diverse and not possible. There is no way the government could possibly control 400 million people through force.

Its happened before. You don't have to control everyone. The motivator is fear thru reprisal. Make a few examples
and the rest fall quickly into line. The Nazis did it to millions... town by town.

WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT!

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I agree with your post that the Elites running govt are designing it. But I believe that the end goal is the One World Govt, because they need to make America fail before She will submit to the NWO. Financial collapse has been predicted by lots of people.The Elites want chaos and riots so they can use force to restore order, by bringing foreign troops if necessary. Small skirmishes like the ones at Occupy are smal scale uprisings. I imagine they have something planned which will cause much greater chaos.
But civil war implies that there would be two camps with opposing views. Who would they pitting against whom? This administration and everyone involved with it has been waging class and race warfare since 08, during the campaign and since the nomination. They have been focused on collapsing the private sector and creating a bigger govt. That means more people hired by the govt to be suppoorted financially by the shrinking private sector. As the private sector shrinks and has less money to pay and inflation rises, it's not going to be a pretty sight.

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here is my response for another thread I think applies. Substitute "Russia" for whatever other "enemy" you want.

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This is interesting to me. Russia needs a large war and/or opponent to re-establish its old power base. Similarly all the opposition Iran receives only strengthens the hold over the people by the regime in charge. Russia would need a totalitarian rule to govern all the former soviet blocks. They need the US and NATO as enemies. That is the only way to secure their former empire. I am sure that if there was a war with Russia both would cut a deal in which both agree to work together behind the curtain.

As I see it.

1. faked civil war at home.

2. faked Russian aggression to end civil war abruptly and consolidate power for the final stage in establishing totalitarian rule.

3. Under the protection offered a dictatorship, the human populace will be altered genetically and establish a structured society in which flags and old rivalries are insignificant. A worker class, a ruler class, with small differences throughout.

Tran humanism's intolerance to democratic society. Nietzsche's over man. Hitler´s over man. Our current leaders view of a trans-human. Singularity, whatever

Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900), a fervent philosopher who was anti-democracy, anti-Christianity, anti-Judaism, anti-socialist and self-acclaimed Anti-Christ, expressed his belief in a master race and the coming of a superman in many of his works. In his unique aphoristic style, Nietzsche wrote in The Genealogy of Morals (III 14):

The sick are the great danger of man, not the evil, not the 'beasts of prey.' They who are from the outset botched, oppressed, broken those are they, the weakest are they, who most undermine the life beneath the feet of man, who instill the most dangerous venom and skepticism into our trust in life, in man, in ourselves…Here teem the worms of revenge and vindictiveness; here the air reeks of things secret and unmentionable; here is ever spun the net of the most malignant conspiracy – the conspiracy of the sufferers against the sound and the victorious; here is the sight of the victorious hated.

www.history.ucsb.edu...

Nietzsche, like Goethe, held no high opinion of the German people, and in other ways, too, the outpourings of this megalomaniacal genius differ from those of the chauvinistic German thinkers of the nineteenth century.... The Germans, he wrote in Ecce Homo, "have no conception how vile they are," and he came to the conclusion that "wheresoever's Germany penetrated, she ruins culture." He thought that Christians, as much as Jews, were responsible for the "slave morality" prevalent in the world. He was never an anti-Semite. He was sometimes fearful of Prussian culture, and in his last years, before insanity closed his mind, he even toyed with the idea of European union and world government.

www.j-bradford-delong.net...

There was some ground for this appropriation of Nietzsche as one of the originators of the Nazi Weltanschauung. Had not the philosopher thundered against democracy and parliaments, preached the will to power, praised war and proclaimed the coming of the master race and the superman--and in the most telling aphorisms? A Nazi could proudly quote him on almost every conceivable subject, and did

Finally there was Nietzsche's prophecy of the coming elite who would rule the world and from whom the superman would spring. In The Will to Power he exclaims: "A daring and ruler race is building itself up.... The aim should be to prepare a trans-valuation of values for a particularly strong kind of man, most highly gifted in intellect and will. This man and the elite around him will become the 'lords of the earth'."

That's the why folks. They don't mind if most of us die off. They only need a few thousand to start off with anyways. Russia would be used as a game changer should the designed revolt get out of hand.

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Except our military leaders are all CFR plants. Anyone underneath them in the chain of command will suffer if they try to get out of a bad military order.

My sister-in-law works in the Washington, DC area in the medical field. A friend of hers who does seminars for the government and private industry on disaster preparedness, says "something" is going to happen in November, around election time. She doesn't know what, but was told at work that they would be warned 3 days in advance of the "event" so she could leave. She told my sister-in-law to "keep the gas tank filled".

I know this sounds too much like "he said" "she said", but my sister-in-law is not an alarmist. This is all I know.

If the "resistance" fought in pitched battles with the government it would be a very quick ordeal. But if the "resistance" adopted a style like the mujahideen in Afghanistan vs. the soviets then they would have a very good chance of winning. The government would have to be very careful not to kill civilians (being that they are their own people, not just "some" Iraqi). So finding a few sabators in our vasssst country sides and cities? Good luck with that....

Oh yeah and there are enough privately owned guns in America for every man, women and child to have at least one. Some how I don't see Southerners or midwesterns giving them up under any circumstance...

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IMO

their hiring is so as to put in place the structure for a new government should this one fail or require immediate re-structuring, like for example martial law being implemented after a staged revolt. Then the emergence of a valid threat that requires all bets to be off and the nation to begrudgingly accept totalitarian rule in the name of safety.

The revolt would only serve to find those that would question leadership. The staged war afterwards would give them time to alter the human genome of the populace under the guise of vaccines to the public and biological warfare counter measures to the newly increased military. Once that is done, in about 50 years, they roll out the world government. It would in theory survive any revolt the people could make if any at all. The food supply would be under their control by means of genetic alteration of the worlds crops. This as well as all things necessary for life like energy etc.

The implementation of a structured society and class system would need the ground to be broken first.

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Spot on again! Russia works just fine for me. I always thought they were just playing dead anyhow. They still have sleepers here stirring things up for them.