"We are Preparing for Massive Civil War," Says DHS Informant

I still think we are looking at this through a tunnel. What if both action and reaction is entirely based on a predesigned orchestra of opportunities taken advantage of at the right times in history leading to our current political structure with its accompanying powers behind the many curtains and locked doors, we can consider...

What if no matter who did what on which side. Both sides end up working for the same purpose in such a convoluted game. Civil war or civil unrest from the US would be shameful.

I hope that what remains with us are things like what I saw not at any rally or video of, or speech or quote, or snippet of history or information. Nothing learned. When I see what I saw in New Yorkers when we dealt with what we got. When the blackouts happened shortly after and we held it down,

People from all genders races and backgrounds directing traffic on the street and side walk with order and a sense of unity and brotherhood. The common bond as a people that kept the peace and order of a worthy people. Some simply helped others get to where they were going. Pickup trucks stopping and asking if they needed a lift even though they were almost falling over.

Lost groups of tourists being led by a group of hoodlums to a map and offering a cell phone. We were people. Not animals. We are good people. We want better. Not safer. We feel safe with each other.

Even after when the lights came back on. We were strong and kept on going without skipping a beat. We were defiant of adversity. Not scared and lost. Not defiant of each other. Everything else is orchestrated.

I won't ever think for a moment that the blood of another civil war should ever spill on our soil ever again. Ours was one of the worst, if not the worst. What have we learned? That we are capable of more. Danger is not our weakness. Unity not in question. The "wrong doers" are not on any side, rather behind them all.

suppose the states will be a safer place after we put all the rednecks like ted nugent in fema camps.

Originally posted by magma
The sad thing that people will actually not get too far with any uprising. We love to dream and be the hero but in fact we are the masses and we have no say.

we will be rounded up like sheep and led to the slaughter.

Shame

That's where you're wrong. The U.S. government will never be able to stop tens of millions of pissed-off people with AK-47's and AR 15's, not to mention the hundreds of other varieties. The government will retreat very quickly. All of the shills will be on the first planes out of America, rest assured that. The military will fall apart and turn into many little militias. I also guarantee that there won't be illegals jumping the border either. They will all be running for their lives, I imagine.

When the work force of America is working for nothing, what do they expect? After paying bills, buying groceries, etc., etc.,---Nobody has any money to buy anything else or do anything--People have been turned into slaves and that rubberband is about to snap. It will be the bloodiest and most violent war ever fought. I bet for once there won't be any zionists found anywhere. They will crawl under their rocks like they have since the dawn of time after peoples got sick of them, only to re-emerge and do it all over again.

This time, there needs to be motions set forth to prevent them from ever taking control of everything again. Can you imagaine a zionist-free news media? Or banks owned by the people? Wall street controlled by the people? No matter how bad it gets, it will all be for the better. Also, I'm sure that there will be many decks of bounty cards issued and the evil will be hunted to the ends of the earth. And to the people who think there will be Fema camps or whatever,--It will never happen. It will be a 'take no prisoners' type of thing on all sides. Just my 2/5

@Hisshadow:
You would not wanna meet a 'redneck' on the battlefield. Ted Nugent in a fema camp??lollol I've heard it all now

reply to post by Fylgje


I think long before it comes to a revolution, the Controllers will have forseen it and taken actions of their own.
How do you deal with masses of unemployed people without having them attack those in charge?
Gruesome and simple, actually. A bio-warfare approach. (No, I'm not one of these chem-trails paranoids!).
After people start visibly dropping across the U.S. from squirrel-flu or whatever they'd like to call it, the guys pulling the strings simply point the finger at the latest Evil-Doers. Either the towel-heads in Iraq or the Korean gooks. Maybe both, who knows? That's the Source, let's go get 'em! Direct American anger Outwards rather than Inwards. Deploy troops overseas rather than VERY OBVIOUSLY rounding up American people. As someone else has said here, deploying American troops to be killed outside of America also carries with it a large chunk of the expendable population. And to keep the number of soldiers up, they need only bring back the draft! Once all this is in place, the Controllers can start rooting-out the homegrown troublemakers who are perhaps too smart to fall for it all and pose a real danger. They can be brought in as terrorists or people allied with the Foreign Threat...

This is of course entirely theoretical on my part and is obviously rather paranoid thinking. But this is Above Top Secret where we can engage in our paranoid fantasies to the delight of others!_javascript:icon('')

reply to post by Leftist


Who is going to start the "uprising"? Not me nor anyone I know. I am a true believer in rule of law. The President was legitimately elected according to law, and he acts in a lawful manner. This is ridiculous. If there is any "uprising", it will be very small scale on the order of the so called militia groups and white supremacists who dream of such things and sometime I think they would love to believe that DHS is preparing for an uprising and building prison/concentration camps to which Pres. Obama would like to send them en masse. The trouble is there is no "en masse". They are a small bunch with wild imaginations, sort of like Michele Bachmann or Glenn Beck, and more guns and other weaponry than brains.

reply to post by BoulderSue


You bring up a point that I wonder about all the time. Despite being elected, politicians write laws that can be entirely against freedom and the principles at the very core of our nations purpose. At what point does moral justification surpass legal justification?

At our founding, we had no legal justification as the law under the king allowed. The founders were wise enough to recognize that moral justification demanded action. We have long passed the point of moral justification for taking all means possible in addressing the corruption and overreaching power of the politicians. I respect how many want to try to reclaim or correct the system, but any honest assessment of things would show that the complexity of the problems is far beyond simple repair. The only solution would be a reboot to the most simplistic levels.

Total collapse of the government and civility in the US is most assuredly coming. It is overdue and the only chance the people will have of gaining freedom again.

I don't think this source is reliable but I can see it as a distinct possibility in the future.

I am sure the power of people will win in the end, but in the short term you are deluding yourself if you think the US population can defend itself.

"We have guns!" you all cry. But they have tanks, jets, missiles, satellites, lasers, nukes and who knows what else. They have propaganda to turn your own family and friends against you. They can change social norms and laws to make currently law-abiding citizens look like the enemy. If that fails they can just frame you. They have been planning this for a while now.

Do you really think that the elites will all sit around in the middle of a civil war and wait to be shot by someone with a gun? No, they will leave the country and watch you tear each other apart, then swoop in and pick up whatever is left.

Guns aren't going to do #, seriously. That attitude is what got us into this problem in the first place.

The only thing that could stop it is if the majority of the Police and Military decided not to follow orders. That is the big hope but its difficult as they are all heavily invested in their beliefs, which would be used to manipulate them.

reply to post by magma


I guarantee you that ultimately, the government will not win a war against its citizenry. Yeah, many citizens will die, but when the rubber meets the road, Americans WILL have their country back!!

Sorry but the OP cites a non-mainstream source which emanates from a Christian site (Trunews). Unless the source for the OP is mainstream or at least not a blog-like news source crucially WITHOUT secondary or tertiary sources of information to back it I don't believe it. I have heard rumours like this during my whole time at ATS.

Back it up or it is just another rumour similar to a couple of guys in a bar discussing conspiracy.

Please do not quote single isolated news sources or blogs and feel that it will be accepted as fact.

Peace

reply to post by Cecilofs

"We have guns!" you all cry. But they have tanks, jets, missiles, satellites, lasers, nukes and who knows what else. They have propaganda to turn your own family and friends against you. They can change social norms and laws to make currently law-abiding citizens look like the enemy. If that fails they can just frame you. They have been planning this for a while now.

The US Military used all of those things in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Clear wins for them?

Originally posted by David134
The DHS will be the lead arm of the assult under the guise of domestic terrorism. They can do it legally now and I do believe it is comming. Although I think you will be surprised at how many Americans will stand up to it. And also how many goverment employes will refuse to enforce it.

I really hope you are right but i believe you are quite wrong! If they just tryed to come and take people away then yes i believe most would fight but you are forgetting one thing! When they round us up it will be after the economic collapse, when most are hungry, cold, scared and in a panic! We will not be thinking of revolution.
We will be trying to keep our families alive by stealing, killing, hiding, running, ETC. people will be fighting to get into these FEMA camps for food, shelter, protection, ETC! I hope to God this does not happen but everything i see and feel tells me that this is what's coming down the road. If the American people had any sense they would revolt before the collapse but the truth is they wont act till they see the danger! Pretty much when it's too late to do anything about it! Goodluck to you all if and when this does happen!

PS: I expect they will RFID all of the FEMA initiates or no aid, food and shelter for them!

Originally posted by Heronumber0
Sorry but the OP cites a non-mainstream source which emanates from a Christian site (Trunews).

Peace

People don't have faith in Christian sites anymore?

Now had it come from an Atheist site...
Or a German site...
Or a Gay site...
Or a...

reply to post by DeReK DaRkLy


we already had a economic collapse and guess what, The American people didn't even blink an eye. They are still doing the same things that got us in the mess, so nothing changed. Our global society has come to the point where it is too big to fail. It is no longer possible for the entire world to fail as there are too many people and the global economy is too vast. Sure, we can go through some slumps, but that's all we will have now is slumps.

reply to post by KoolerKing


The United States is a fiat system. With a fiat system the more debt you have the more money to go around. I know this sounds absurd or doesn't make any sense, but that's what a fiat system is all about. You can't have zero debt in a fiat monetary system, it's not possible to have one. So, the more debt you are in, the more money to go around. It's a simple as that. If everyone wants a different system, the someone should come up with one that is better. Unfortunately if we went back to a gold standard, you would have a real tough time in the economy. Why? There would be less money to go around and the rich would be further from you then you could imagine.

reply to post by intrptr


Somewhat true about Egypt. Now let's look at Egypt and only a year ago this occurred with their revolution. Look hope fast their country has turned around. That wouldn't have happened so quickly 100 years ago in the Great Depression. Times have changed and things move quicker now, this is why you won't see a total global collapse of countries. People don't care anymore about the simple things in life. Everyone across the globe want their ipods, iphones, smartphones, facebook, etc...As long as everyone has these things, they don't care about crooked politicians or the economy. Why? People see those things as let the nerds of the world figure that out, people just want their entertainment.

I'm not a huge fan of Nugent and I'm fairly liberal - but what has the man really done that is that bad?
I know he's given a lot to charity. So he's supported conservative politics, isn't that his right?

I used to call myself a liberal - lately I don't want to do that because, to me, liberals are acting hysterical, wanting to shut up or destroy anyone they don't agree with. Conservatives are not much better with their namecalling 'libtards' stuff like that.

I have a feeling though, that if there WERE a civil war, left against right, they'd kill me first.
Never saw this country so polarized.

And - what I don't get - is how the parties are expecting their supporters to LINE UP with them on every single issue.
It's dangerous. Like, say you are a liberal. Yea! Power to the people! What? You don't support govt funds for abortion? Off with your head, TRAITOR!

Or a conservative! "We'll show those libtards!" What, you think we should quit giving foreign aid to Israel? You communist, antisemitic idiot!"

What's going ON with people? WTH? You know? And the thing is, most people can't even seem to REASON any politics out, and will tell you that YOU are stupid when you disagree with WIDELY, COMMONLY KNOWN facts they got wrong themselves.

reply to post by snarky412


I smell a rat, a wish,a set up, a provocation, a threat to freedom, a dual of sorts, a strong ego in the mix, why must the mind contemplate such a wild endeavor. What could anyone gain by more war?

reply to post by Iwannaknow2


Why war? It's all about power and domination (hardcoded into all ape genes, you know). And there's always the craving for more money. After this comes the brainwashed masses, mostly a big thanks here to various religions. How Their God gives them the right to rule the planet and screw everyone else who doesn't follow their belief system. Islam one one side and Christianity on the other. Before anyone says "no comparison!" I'll point them to Fundamentalist Christians and the Dominion movement which is, for all practical purposes, Islam with another name. It's like one big game played by the mega-rich, who are probably bored with life otherwise.

In my opinion whether this statement is truth or not is irrelevant at this point. The fact of the matter is that it is a very serious claim and the correlations being made do warrant further investigation into the reasoning behind the purchases with the overall goal of finding out whether there is anything "in the works" so to say. The DHS is a brainchild of Bush, Jr. and was created a year or so after the 9/11 attacks. If you believe that the DHS is planning for this then you should also believe that 9/11 was an inside job and that all the moves of government organizations has been orchestrated to create the current playing field so that an "uprising" would happen.

I had heard a statement a while back that has made me question the legitimacy of EVERY presidential motives since Bush Sr. So this includes parties on both sides of the fence and it all has to do with Agenda 21, the furthering of power for the UN and continued mistreatment of a nations citizens. We're talking about virtually enslaving a population by making them think that they're getting what they need/want to be happy.

If this turns out to be true and there is going to be a massive civil war in the U.S. then I already know which sides I will take. The one that stands for freedom and exemplifies our ability to choose and have free will while not being tied down suckling off the tit of some government that has a pipe-dream of absolute power over the nations of this world.

.02 - HSR

So that is what the FEMA camps and trains were really made for.
Preparation for a possible New Madrid disaster was only a disguise...