Alan Shepard Is So Much A Big Fake, Reading His Story Makes Patriotic Americans Crave Antiemetics

reply to post by decisively


again......still NO sources..........

Trying to figure out how you are even still arguing this after youve been completely decimated by everyone in this thread

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


The reference was previously cited. William House, D. D.S., M.D., THE STRUGGLE OF A MEDICAL INNOVATOR(Cochlear Implants and Other Ear Surgeries) 2011, ISBN: 1461046378, Library of Congress Number: 2011905541.

Page 50 ManBehindTheMask is where you can read the part about how Charles Berry restored Shepard to flight duty after he discovered Dr. House's surgery fixed Alan Shepard's 40dB hearing loss. Pretty cool no ? That's better than Lazarus......

Page 50 is also where you can read about how Berry woke House up at 2:30 am to have him talk to Shepard 230,000 miles away and heard him perfectly well. No, not House silly, Shepard heard perfectly well with his bad ear, Meniere's ear. Pretty cool, no ?

So you fully appreciate how badly you were scammed and your parents ripped off, I would suggest the Meniere's Symposium published by Saunders and appearing in OTOLARYNGOLOGY CLINICS OF NORTH AMERICA 1968 as mentioned half a dozen times previously in my threads.

It's a page turner...... Seconal anyone ??????????

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


As you are so fond of well referenced critical analysis ManBehinTheMask, allow me to lead you from the darkness and into the light, so that you may know Apollo' Fraudulence in all its marvelous and ever so brilliantly offensive glory.

In 1968, I believe the very year of Alan Shepard's alleged shunt surgery by the great William House, the finest otolaryngologists in our land assembled to discuss Meniere's Disease. The legendary symposium's activities is preserved in the 715 pages of the W.B. Saunders publication that binds in a single volume all of the lectures/essays/articles as they first appeared in the medical journal, Otolaryngology Clinics of North America, October 1968.

William House of course was a participant. David Austin, Professor of otolaryngology at the University of Illanois College of Medicine gave the symposium's talk/lecture on THE ENDOLYMPHATIC SHUNT OPERATION. Austin's paper on the subject can be found on page 589 of the above referenced Saunders publication.

Not too far from the very beginning of Austin's talk/paper, Austin states quite explicitly, ever so ever so ever so clearly and I do indeed quote;

"CURE OF MENIERE'S DISEASE HAS NOT YET BEEN KNOWINGLY RECORDED"


I hope that was helpful........

Originally posted by decisively
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask

 

As you are so fond of well referenced critical analysis ManBehinTheMask, allow me to lead you from the darkness and into the light, so that you may know Apollo' Fraudulence in all its marvelous and ever so brilliantly offensive glory.

In 1968, I believe the very year of Alan Shepard's alleged shunt surgery by the great William House, the finest otolaryngologists in our land assembled to discuss Meniere's Disease. The legendary symposium's activities is preserved in the 715 pages of the W.B. Saunders publication that binds in a single volume all of the lectures/essays/articles as they first appeared in the medical journal, Otolaryngology Clinics of North America, October 1968.

William House of course was a participant. David Austin, Professor of otolaryngology at the University of Illanois College of Medicine gave the symposium's talk/lecture on THE ENDOLYMPHATIC SHUNT OPERATION. Austin's paper on the subject can be found on page 589 of the above referenced Saunders publication.

Not too far from the very beginning of Austin's talk/paper, Austin states quite explicitly, ever so ever so ever so clearly and I do indeed quote;

"CURE OF MENIERE'S DISEASE HAS NOT YET BEEN KNOWINGLY RECORDED"


I hope that was helpful........

Again, there is a difference between cured and symptom free.........

and AGAIN as ive stated before, if you were a doctor (which i believe you are not, but thats neither here nor there) you would understand this.....

Many people can return to their profession with the reduction or elimination of symptoms.........

This was Shepards case...........

You can go in circles all you want...........doesnt matter if there is a cure or not, he was not suffering from the debilitating symptoms that kept him grounded...........

end of............

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


Sorry 'bout that ManBehindTheMask, you and your boys ain't gonna' be able to wiggle outta' this one. William House said that Charles Berry said Alan Shepard's symptoms were not "improved", oh no no no no no NO ! Alan Shepard was CURED, his HEARING of all things, in addition to his vertigo, fixed 100%.

Allow me to provide the details as you seem to be so very curious. From the 2011 publication, The Struggles of a Medical Innovator: Cochlear Implants and Other Ear Surgeries: A Memoir by William F. House, D.D.S., M.D. , page 50. (caps mine);

"His(Shepard's) hearing had improved from a 40dB hearing loss to NORMAL hearing. Chuck Barry(sic) decided to return Alan to flight status because he was an astronaut who had very desirable skills for space flight, the "Right Stuff" "

Fasten you space belt ManBehindTheMask, it gets better, allow me to continue with this JIVE;

"On the third day of our stay in Houston, Chuck Barry(sic) called us at our motel at 2:30 am and asked if I would like to talk to Alan who was now 230,000 miles out in space. It was a real thrill. Alan told me that he was fine and was listening to me with his Meniere's ear and using it for his communications."

Please do not take my word for it, ask your doc buddies to look at this for you ManBehindTheMask. Then as now, shunt surgeries did not/do not/cannot restore HEARING function to a Meniere's damaged vestibulocholar(hearing and balance) nerve. This is NOT a point in dispute. NEVER has been a point in dispute. The surgery's intent, to address severe symptom's of vertigo refractory to medical(nonsurgical treatment). If shunt surgery fixed HEARING, it would be the greatest thing since Aldrin waved his hand and changed his TANG to WINE.

And with that, we have nailed Berry. Thank you William House for that very very very special surgery, not to mention your timely documentation of Charles Berry's lies.

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


Here is a great exercise as regards the now changing reputation of the once well thought of aerospace medicine innovator Charles Berry. Google search this "CHARLES BERRY, APOLLO". Report back on the top ten references for our friend. Times are a'changing indeed, and for the better so, fairly so.

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


Decimated ?

Some more details for you and your doctor friends. According to William House, The Struggles of a Medical Innovator: Cochlear Implants and Other Ear Surgeries: A Memoir by William F. House, D.D.S., M.D. , page 50, Shepard's baseline hearing loss due to his Meniere's Disease was 40dB. For those not aware, 40dB is is the sound volume/intensity at which normal conversation occurs. And as such, Shepard was alleged by Charles Berry to have gone from NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR THE HUMAN VOICE AT THE INTENSITY/VOLUME OF SIMPLE CONVERSATION TO NORMAL HEARING.

So we see Shepard was alleged to have very significant hearing loss, very much not a trivial problem at all. Now why would they do something so foolish as to pretend House's surgery fixed Shepard's ear ? Anyone with a medical background that became suspicious, admittedly very unlikely in 1969/1970, very very very likely today for obvious reasons, could spot this con a light year away. They needed something concrete and objective to prove Shepard was ready to fly. You can't just say that he is not having vertigo any more, because the vertigo can hit a Meniere's sufferer at any time, regardless of prior interventions. So they say his hearing is back , normal now. It seems crazy dumb now, but back then it clearly would be a strategy that would work at least short term. And so it did.

Last point about the "illnesses" of Shepard and Slayton, they were probably made up to place the two men in these important positions, the big shot decision makers that would fly, if they only were not sick/relatively disabled with these BOGUS problems.

Now it is all rather transparent, but stepping back, one can see how everyone was duped, including House himself. Berry tells House that Shepard's hearing came back, completely normal, what is House to think ? Not fraud, that would be the last thing coming to House's mind. He probably thought, "great !", and he went off to see the Apollo 14 launch buying in, VIP suite, everyone sucking up to him, kissin' his rump and all the while playing the guy for a huge chump. It is SAD SAD SAD.

reply to post by decisively

Here is a great exercise as regards the now changing reputation of the once well thought of aerospace medicine innovator Charles Berry. Google search this "CHARLES BERRY, APOLLO". Report back on the top ten references for our friend. Times are a'changing indeed, and for the better so, fairly so.

Here's my diagnosis: F60.2. You can look that up in your ICD-10, Doc.

reply to post by DJW001


Hope you enjoyed the google search. My colleagues and I will be exposing others as well. Berry is one of many perps we have the goods on.

You seem to have given up on this one. If that is the case, I would say, "smart choice". Resistance is futile. To say these guys are nailed dead to rights would be an understatement.

Relax DJW001, in the long run it is a positive, exposing the Apollo fraud, short term major pain, long term chance to restore the credibility of the American government provided they handle the fall out well. Something like South African style amnesty makes the most sense. Put everyone on the witness stand in D.C. and have them spill the space beans. Tell the truth and you walk. I think that would be fair. WE THE PEOPLE get the truth, they don't go to jail.

Whatever they were promised protection from the law wise, it would not hold up because from a legal perspective, this primarily was and continues to be all about lying to Congress. Think of Lovell testifying in Congress about the Apollo 13 explosion, or simply appropriating money for NASA year after year, public money used to scam us and so forth and so on.

reply to post by decisively


again you addressed nothing just long winded nonsense.......nothing of value, nothing with any proof, no links, nothing to back up data....

And instead of addressing the fact that what I and many others have pointed out is fact.......

for some reason you think we need to "wiggle" out of something........

Seems to me the only one wiggling is you trying to dodge facts......

Your colleagues? you mean your family members who edit your posts for you?

Do they help you diagnose your patients too, and write up the medical charts?


Also, you didnt address DW question.........you went right around it........and told him you hope he enjoyed google.....

I shall remove myself from this thread because its a futile effort to debate with people who are intellectually dishonest, and outright lie about their profession to try and feign credibility.......

Good luck in future threads..........being that there are REAL doctors and other professionals on this site......youre gonna need it

reply to post by decisively


S&F.....x1000 if possible!

I didn't even know there was such a disease, which I know think I have ..

cataracts

ftw !

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


No problem, you shall catch on soon enough. Here's a good exercise for you. See if you can demonstrate that House might have been able to fix Shepard's hearing. Can you find some cases in the literature where an individual with hearing loss on the basis of Meniere's Disease had it restored with an operation ?

reply to post by decisively

Each crewman received a comprehensive physical examination at 27, 15 and 6 days prior to launch, with brief examinations conducted daily during the last 5 days before launch.

shortly after landning, a comprehensive physical examination showed that the crew was in good health. both the commander and the command module pilot had a small amount of clear, bubbly fluid in the left middle-ear cavity and slight reddening of the eardrums. These findings disappeared in 24 hours without treatment. The lunar module pilot had mode-rate eyelid irritation in addition to slight redness of the eardrums. All crewman shows a mild temporary reaction to the micropore tape covering their biomedical sensors. This reaction susided within 24 hours.

www.hq.nasa.gov...

plenty of physical tests before flight. deemed fit to fly, so whats the problem?

reply to post by Komodo

I didn't even know there was such a disease, which I know think I have ..

It can be managed with lifestyle changes, as Shepard apparently did.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Komodo

 

I didn't even know there was such a disease, which I know think I have ..

It can be managed with lifestyle changes, as Shepard apparently did.

Riiiight...!

have you ever had Vertigo before?

Manageable..perhaps.. but you fail to understand, it doesn't go away and it arrives at the MOST impromptu times.......such as Driving a Vehicle, work, etc..or guiding a command ship in space, small stuff like that.

so the word 'manageable' only means a shot in the dark to not make happen so often...

reply to post by Komodo

have you ever had Vertigo before?

Yes. As usual, you have missed the point.

reply to post by choos

I have had vertigo many times. Vertigo can be and is a common occurrence in many people. However, it does not have to be caused by Menieres Disease. Vertigo is caused by fluid fluctuations in the inner ear. The ear sends a message to the brain that the victim is moving, while the eyes send a different message. Since the two messages conflict, the victim feels dizzy. Common vertigo can be caused by an inner ear infection, dehydration, or simply spinning around in circles for a period of time and then suddenly stopping.

Menieres disease happens when there is a change in the fluid volume of a part of the inner ear called the "labyrinth." Possible causes include ear infection and head injury.

Meniere’s disease is a condition in which there is an excess of fluid in the inner ear. The excess fluid disturbs the ear’s balance and hearing mechanisms and produces a range of symptoms.

Source

Causes of Meniere's disease:

What causes the fluid build up?

The mechanisms that control the secretions of endolymph fluid are unknown. Many factors appear to cause endolymphatic hydrops (excess fluid) in the inner ear. The most common are:
Auto-immune reactions
Allergic responses
Autonomic nervous system imbalances
Blockages and/or damage to the endolymphatic structures
Dietary deficiencies
Viral infections
Vascular (circulation) irregularities

Source

Surgery options and its affect:

When Meniere's symptoms cannot be managed by a combination of life style measures and medication, surgery may be considered. The following sections describe the two types of surgery available - destructive and non-destructive.

When considering surgery it’s wise to research the available options. If necessary seek further opinions.

Non destructive Surgery

These procedures attempt to alter the course of Meniere's disease.

Endolymphatic sac surgery aims to improve or alter the function of the endolymphatic sac, which is thought to control either the production or absorption of the endolymphatic fluid. Long-term studies have shown that these operations are successful in approximately half to two thirds of patients.

Destructive Surgery

These procedures destroy the balance mechanism in order to gain control of vertigo. Only a very small percentage (around 5%) of people with Meniere's will require surgical intervention for control of vertigo. Usually as Meniere's disease progresses the acute disabling attacks of vertigo cease.

Chemical Ablation involves injecting the middle ear with antibiotics (eg Gentamicin, Streptomycin). The drugs are absorbed through the membranes between the middle and inner ear and are toxic to balance and hearing nerve endings. This treatment aims to reduce or destroy the vestibular function of that ear, helping to relieve symptoms of vertigo.

The following procedures are only considered when all other measures to control vertigo have failed.

Vestibular nerve section involves cutting the balance nerve of the affected ear to stop the incorrect signals reaching the brain. Hopefully the hearing nerve is spared.

A vestibular neurectomy aims to destroy the inner ear and is usually only considered if there is no useable hearing in the ear.

Source

Vertigo can be managed and inspite of common belief. A person can function while having vertigo depending on its severity. I do. I am able to function quite well while experiencing vertigo. It is not necessarily a game stopper. It is not like epilepsy, I do not black out nor do I go into convulsions. The world just spins.

Alan Shepard had a shunt placed in his Endolymphatic sac. This relieved the fluid pressure and restored his equilibrium. He went two years without a reoccurrence, was put through a battery of tests, looked over by the flight surgeon and give a clean bill of health. In other words, they determined that he was not a danger and placed back on the flight list.

Placing too much emphasis on the semantics of "cured" verses "controlled" is a misnomer. In this situation they have the same meaning, which is, there were no presenting symptoms. Alan Shepard was healthy.

It would appear you have not read Dr. House's Book Yet

reply to post by Gibborium



As discussed at length above, William House, Alan shepard's surgeon, wrote that the good Dr. Berry claimed House's surgery fixed Shepard's established 40dB hearing loss. We are NOT talking about vertigo here, but rather, HEARING LOSS."

As we all know, shunt surgery impacts not, such well established hearing problems as those ascribed to Shepard, and so we may confidently conclude the "problems" were indeed fabricated, certainly Berry's claimed "cure" by proxy(House) was.

You also seem to be missing the point that it matters not as to whether or not House fixed Alan Shepards "bad" ear 100 %, his good ear remains at risk until kingdom come. This broken record wonders how the hearing is on that side ? Anyone over there in need of a phony fix himself/herself ?

reply to post by decisively


You seem to overlook the simple fact that Alan Shepard was cleared by the flight surgeon and released for active duty. He was placed back on the flight schedule and went to the moon. Risks were assessed and taken often during that era. Man was eager to explore and was willing to put his life on the line to do so.

Hearing loss can be regained through the non destructive surgery of placing a shunt in the endolymphatic sac. As for the non affected ear, there is a slight possibility of Meniere's disease. However, with time (here it was two years) that risk diminishes. I have not seen Shepard health records and do not know all the symptoms that presented for the diagnosis of Meniere's disease. This would and does have a direct affect on not only treatment, but the results of that treatment.