America. A country led by cowards.

reply to post by SplitInfinity


Because of that exact attitude,we as a Country,didn't even try.Obama didn't try.

Sad.

reply to post by beezzer

And they are going to do what to do that and to what extent? Placing pressure on China has always brought about unfavorable results. And the U.S. is not going to go to war over one mans issue.

The only thing that HAS worked as it pertains to China is exposing in any way possible the growing Chinese Middle Class to concepts of Freedom through anything from the Chinese Internet in which the Chinese populous knows it does not have full access...to Movies and Media and any other Western idealism.

China will change...but it will happen slowly as the old Communist Guard dies out. The current U.S. policy toward China is waiting and containment an if you have noticed...China does not defend N. Korea to the extent it used to as well as a lessening of threats to retake Taiwan.
Split Infinity

reply to post by sonnny1

Try to do what? If we had made threats...the Chinese would have killed his family and him. He would disapear.
This does not help the individual to make threats. Split Infinity

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by sonnny1

 

Try to do what? If we had made threats...the Chinese would have killed his family and him. He would disapear.
This does not help the individual to make threats. Split Infinity

What threats were made?

Was anything done?

Do you really think,after the World has caught this story,they would kill his family? Likely not. If Obama wrote something,like I did,the ball would be in the Chinese court. They also have an appearance to justify . Closer human rights relations is a good thing.

reply to post by beezzer


again any chance u haters get to bash america

on evry other foriegn affair u all say cant the usa just mind there own business and stay out of it

lol look what happens when they do

u all say damm cowards why didnt they help lmao

reply to post by superballs

Yes...it seems the same people who are always screaming for the U.S. to mind their own business...are the same group that also scream...Why didn't the U.S. do something!?

The reality is that they take what they have for advantage and never think about what was sacrificed to get where we are. Then when something like this happens...they are first to protest it...but last in line to volunteer to do something about it.

Split Infinity

Originally posted by redoubt

Originally posted by Intrud3r

Originally posted by beezzer

A blind guy climbs over a fracking wall, travels through town, injured, and seeks help at the US embassy. And what does America do?

Blinks.

America is currently busy waging war against evil camel riding Muslims who want to take over the world, please come back later.

Are you f serious ? USA is no longer in position to tell the Cinese to shove it.


Times change, accept it.

edit on 2-5-2012 by Intrud3r because: (no reason given)

If and when my country arrives at a point where it can no longer defend its principles by safeguarding dissidents of tyrannies, then yes... the US has folded its tent. Once we get to a place where we fear standing up for the rights of those seeking liberty, we have failed our own constitution.

None of this means we must invade anyone but at some point, when we surrender our principles for politics, for cowardice or for money, we are no longer the land of the free and home of the brave. We are a flock of pigeons feeding on peanuts left for us by whomever passes and cares for our waddlings.

You live in a dream world if you believe that your country, or any country for that matter, would risk their diplomatic relations over one mans freedom. Your country never surrendered the principles for money because money was always the top priority.

Time to wake the f up.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Juston

 

We have "asylum" cities for illegal immigrants.

Yet an authentic activist seeks our help and what do we do?

Whiz all over ourselves.

This is an epic, epic failure on the part of America. It shows its true colours, yellow.

This isn't "drone" diplomacy. This is real stand up for one man, one ideal diplomacy.

After being on this planet just a short time and observing the present evils of our day or reading about all the evils (whether these evils were committed by individuals, governments, religions or barbaric clans) which took place in the past I've come to the conclusion that in it's short 230 years the existence of the United States of America has and is the the most prolific producer of pure demonic and diabolical evil ever to exist on this planet.

It's worse than any cancer, malignancy or dreadful disease that any man or nation of souls could or should have to endure. And what makes it worse than ANY mass murderer, serial killer, Zionist, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Torquemada, Caligula, G.W. Bush, Obama, Alister Crowley, Genghis Khan, Greenspan, Bernanke or any other despotic human being or empire is that it disguises itself as benefactor, friend and helper of the people.

No truer words could be spoken than these:

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague." --Marcus Cicero

God help us.

The people always get the government they deserve.

This situation is no different.

America is not led by cowards.

America is run by tyrants and gansters.

Why would they care about a blind chinese man?

Its population are the real cowards. Not a single backbone in the country. Baa.

reply to post by beezzer


As long as America is a country that's economy is based on the consumption of cheap crap this will continue to happen. Dont blame the leaders or the people, this is real politick protecting the entire American way of life.

Besides more people die in the iPhone factory than will die because of this guy. Get your priorities straight.

reply to post by beezzer


oh yea, and you are worried about some guy in trouble in china when America take a student who was not arrrested or charged but was tortured for a week. www.telegraph.co.uk...

What kind of ****** up ******** of a *********** country has the US become?

reply to post by lacrimaererum


Yesssss but it's patently absurd to compare an accident, no matter how horific, to a policy.

That poor kid suffered mightily, but not due to any US specific policy.

Originally posted by neo96
Yeah we are

For over 30 years i was told "communism is evil" oh when they offer a slave class so that you can buy and ipod pay no nevermind to that.

Oh and force their women to abortions and jail anyone who speaks out again their policies.

Turn a blind eye so you can make money off it!!!

Cowardice indeed.

edit on 2-5-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

You sound like a paranoid schizophrenic...

Seek help before you hurt yourself or someone else

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


the same kinda accident where the US is flying drones around the world and killing innocent people.

the same accidents where US army accidently piss on dead people and accidently film it.

the same accidents where US army pose with dead body parts

the same accidents where the US can tortue who they like where they like

what do we not know about?


yea its all just accidents.


the is one hella of a stink coming off the US

reply to post by lacrimaererum


Are you nuts?

Collateral damage isn't an "accident" in the same way; it's a known and uncontrollable excess of war.

Pissing on dead bodies, etc., isnt an accident, it's deliberate. But it's also quite clearly NOT US policy.

And on and on.

You've convinced yourself that everything the US government says is a lie, which is just as stupid as thinking everything they say is true.

This poor kid was lost in the system and almost died; that's tragic, buy unless you have proof of something other than that don't let your paranoia get the better of you.

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by superballs

 

Yes...it seems the same people who are always screaming for the U.S. to mind their own business...are the same group that also scream...Why didn't the U.S. do something!?

I am against foreign action in other countries...yet, at the same time the US government is always trying to convince you they are only helping poor, defenseless, helpless people when they take illegal actions in other countries.

The reason I commented, personally, is because this case highlights the fact that the policies of the US government have nothing to do with helping any poor defenseless person... and everything to do with worship of the dollar. They only lie when they attempt to convince people otherwise.

But then I never once said the US should have done anything, I simply highlighted the economic factors in US policy decision making... and asked why people thought it would be any different in this particular instance

.To me it is glaringly obvious the interests of human life and good for mankind has never once been part of United States foreign policy, and I am shocked that most Americans have yet to figure this out for themselves!

The people in this thread who are "shocked" and "outraged" that the US did nothing to help the man, are the same ones living in the dream world that US is really going around the world "helping" people. Time to wake up.

www.abovetopsecret.com... that poster said it best.

reply to post by beezzer


Of course we blinked. All of our things are made in China. The computer you are using right now? Made in China.
If we let the guy in we wouldn't have anyone besides Mexico to manufacture for us.

reply to post by beezzer


Why would American politians give a damn about this guy when they don't even give a damn about their own people?

Maybe you would have preferred that GWB still be in office, or perhaps Sarah Palin? We could have made a preemptive strike, and blown China the hell up. Maybe then, you'd feel better, and could maintain your "tough guy" image.

Pfft.