Ron Paul Backers Prepare Takeover

reply to post by fourthmeal


What about alex jones or jessie ventura?

Would people support them and more importantly would the media cover them at all?

The last question is always the most relevant because propaganda is king in an empire of deception.

RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Common Good
Fact- Majority of our Govt. Officials are in loyalty debt to some Corp. that got them where they are today. Their needs usually come first.

Fact- Obama is one of those people.

Fact- Romney is one of those people.

Fact- Paul cant be bought.

Do the math.

Completely agree and this is why I will no longer support a propped up mainstream candidate!

Originally posted by ugie1028

Originally posted by Common Good
Fact- Majority of our Govt. Officials are in loyalty debt to some Corp. that got them where they are today. Their needs usually come first.

Fact- Obama is one of those people.

Fact- Romney is one of those people.

Fact- Paul cant be bought.

Do the math.

Completely agree and this is why I will no longer support a propped up mainstream candidate!

True wisdom, Ugie!!!

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

You just come back with saying that somehow the Ron Paul supporters are going to vote to unbind every delegate...when that isn't allowed in the rules.

This is a very contentious issue right now. In the 1976 convention Reagan had 79 bound delegates, who were on his side;and, his campaign had a strategy to have them abstain. When it came down to it, this would not have been enough to reach the magic number, so he gave in to Ford losing by less than 200 votes.

According to some, a bound delegate may vote their conscience at the convention, whether bound or not. There are rules at the national level which supersede state rules, especially regarding winner take all states. If the bound delegate, voted against the pledge, then the state party might fine them or throw them out of the party, but it is not illegal.

Rather, we explain that the RNC rules’ provision on the unit rule make it clear that delegates aren’t bound to vote according to how most delegates from their state are voting. In fact, delegates can vote according to their own judgment and conscience, and that this is most likely to take place in a state where a state party’s winner-take-all rule has allowed a candidate to win all delegates primarily due to a split in the majority vote, or due to votes cast by non-Republican voters participating in the contest.

To explain our case, we look to the language of Rule 38, which was adopted in its current form in 1964. The rule states: “no delegate shall be bound by any attempt of any state or Congressional district to impose the unit rule.” The unit rule does not prohibit a state from using a winner-take-all primary in the same way that Rule 15(b) prohibits most states from using a winner-take-all primary when holding a contest earlier than April 1st. However, the unit rule does prohibit binding delegates to vote according to how a majority of delegates from their state vote – again, a scenario most likely to occur in a state using the winner-take-all rule.

FairVote.org

My opinion is that it really comes down to whomever has the most "real delegates", will decide, as, the rules can even be changed on the convention floor. One benefit of Romney's bound delegates is that he was in many cases, able to pick his own slate of trusted supporters. However, in Massachusetts, Paul supporters were able replace many of these delegates, although they are still bound to Romney. A small percentage of "Stealth Delegates" could change the odds considerably of reaching 1144 on the first round.

I understand that both Gingrich and Santorum campaigns have suggested such a strategy. The Ron Paul campaign has made no such suggestions.

Oh, and don't forget Santorum has not officially resigned. In the event of a brokered convention, he may add himself to the mix.

Oh what fun and joy, we have here. Could be very interesting.

reply to post by Donkey_Dean


KGB likes komrade Paul and his gorilla tactics, thanks for the proof showing RT hahaha.

After watching this video in my best Mr. Burns voice...."eeeeeexcellent"

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Ron Paul couldn't beat Mitt Romney in a debate...he would have no chance against Obama. The debates are Obama's gold...Ron Paul will look silly next to him with his oversized suit, jittering and nervous chuckling and crazy laugh when he is trying to make a point.

Oh he don't like Ron Paul.

Americans realize after watching Obama play golf for three years while raising debt ceiling that being great at the debate podium doesn't equate to being a good President. Being a smooth talker won't be as much help the second time around. Well maybe it will on the easily amused.

Some people want to keep their benefits though, that is understandable.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher


Ron Paul couldn't beat Mitt Romney in a debate...he would have no chance against Obama.

In all the debate's I've seen Romney in, all he does is make excuses for his previous flip flops while stuttering non-stop. Never directly answers a question either, attempting to change the topic. Where I come from these are signs of a terrible debater. Take a debate class or two and you might understand.

Four years ago, John McCain was not well liked by many in the grassroots and 14 delegates with that sentiment showed their displeasure by voting “abstain” Ron Paul supporters who are bound as delegates in the first ballot for Mitt Romney can do the same thing in 2012, in order to force a brokered convention. Then it's lights out for that Goldmans Sachs, the Mitt Puppet, Romney.

Liva la revolution!

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by fourthmeal

 

What about alex jones or jessie ventura?

Would people support them and more importantly would the media cover them at all?

The last question HAS always BEEN the most relevant because propaganda is king in an empire of deception.

FTFY

Truth trumps propaganda and thats why we have a constitution in this USA. Sure its possible for an "inside job" and a set of criminals to fool most of the people some of the time. But their crime spree is about up and its time we took our nation back.

BTW, I'm intending to write in Ron Paul if I have to - and Dennis Kusinich for VP. He's also "libertarian" as i am - but left leaning. RP is extremely right-leaning. The www.politicalcompass.org... demonstrates how the current and past candidates stack up. They're biased toward authoritarianism which is ANTI-CONSTITUTION. That means they've committed high crimes such as perjury vs their oath of offices passing things like the diss-patriot act and NDAA.

Perjury, also known as forswearing, is the willful act of swearing a false oath or affirmation to tell the truth, whether spoken or in writing, concerning matters material to a judicial proceeding.

Obviously circumventing the courts matters to judicial proceedings - and the only reason they're not impeached (Bush, obama, Gonzoles, Cheney, Lieberman, ...etc ) is because they've also bribed and threatened anyone who would otherwise do the right thing.

reply to post by Doalrite


Sounds ALOT like Obama ... Hummmm...

Originally posted by hollwd
reply to post by Doalrite

 

Sounds ALOT like Obama ... Hummmm...

What the whining on the first page? lol If i were trying to sound like obama I would've put in a hundred "Uhs" I mean "uh" that there should've "uh" been a little "uh" after everyother "uh" word

I think it is obvious that Outkast Searcher is a disinfo agent and he always seems to be first on the scene of any pro Ron Paul thread. His unwillingness to accept facts on anything that represents anything pro Ron Paul is very clear and shows what he is here for. Ignore at all costs!

Originally posted by TheOngoingJourney
I think it is obvious that Outkast Searcher is a disinfo agent and he always seems to be first on the scene of any pro Ron Paul thread. His unwillingness to accept facts on anything that represents anything pro Ron Paul is very clear and shows what he is here for. Ignore at all costs!

I concur... I would love to name more however don't wanna do that... however you can go to there name there on the left and search their old post and see what they are pushing... some even delcare themselves as shills lol But it is ok because people like that that spew factless points and cant hold an actual conversation about it help ron paul..

People see that and think "wtf" I don't want to sound like this ship wreck... and of course they will look into whats going on more..

Personally I'm surprised the Establishment is still using this tatic because they would be better off straight up ignoring the Ron Paul rEVOLution... hoping that it doesn't spread... but it will and it can't be stopped

STOP CALLING PEOPLE DISINFO AGENTS, SHILLS AND TROLLS IF YOU CANT KEEP UP THEN ACCEPT YOUR LOSS DONT HURL INSULTS IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID

Jesus Christ people. Get a goddamn grip. First one to throw in an insult losses the argument.

Originally posted by TsukiLunar

STOP CALLING PEOPLE DISINFO AGENTS, SHILLS AND TROLLS IF YOU CANT KEEP UP THEN ACCEPT YOUR LOSS DONT HURL INSULTS IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID

Jesus Christ people. Get a goddamn grip. First one to throw in an insult losses the argument.

edit on 30-4-2012 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)

You know what makes you look stupid... bold capital extra sized letters... if you cant actually argue your point just scream it louder till people give in... is that it?

Even if Ron Paul were to win the nomination, and the election, there is no way on Earth he will ever push his agenda through the corporatist congress and Senate. Ain't gonna happen. We are talking about a lame duck presidency at best.

Originally posted by openminded2011
Even if Ron Paul were to win the nomination, and the election, there is no way on Earth he will ever push his agenda through the corporatist congress and Senate. Ain't gonna happen. We are talking about a lame duck presidency at best.

I have to disagree with you only because I believe he would keep the people so informed on everything the government was doing that the whole nation would go on strike until the right things were done... any president can call on the people and if he told them "we must change here is our path and the only way corporate america will listen is if you stop what your doing and pay attention.." the people would.