Abortion Addict Confesses 15 Procedures in 16 Years

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by RealSpoke

 

I never thought of this aspect before, but what if someone gets an actual rush out of an abortion? What if it is a safe and legal way to get the same thrill of killing as a serial killer would get? I'm not saying all abortions would be for that reason, but for a socio or psychopath they might find some elation in the act and then seek to do it again and again to get that same elation.

Pretty sick and sad concept.

Maybe the hormone rollercoaster and inevitable crash is the drug.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Some people are 'addicted' to the attention received during medical procedures and/or the pain killers and relaxers that are given. I forget what the psychology term is called ... when people fake being sick to get attention and/or make themselves sick to get attention. This could be part of that mental health problem.

It's called Munchausen Syndrome and it is a nasty disorder.
www.reference.com...

There is another called Munchausen By Proxy and it is even worse. People purposely do something to their kids or other close relative so they will get attention for "bearing such a terrible burden". Looks like this lady really needs professional help.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Some people are 'addicted' to the attention received during medical procedures and/or the pain killers and relaxers that are given. I forget what the psychology term is called ... when people fake being sick to get attention and/or make themselves sick to get attention. This could be part of that mental health problem.

Very intuitive! This may well be a case of Munchaussen's Syndrome. It typically appears in adults who, during their childhoods, were denied fundamental necessities because someone under their roof was very ill and required the attention of all adults in the house. Unfortunately, they learn that only sickness is worthy of attention and all other needs are secondary or selfish.

This woman clearly needs mental help, if it's true and not just a propaganda piece. If she didn't want children that much then she should have gotten 'fixed' a long time ago, but instead it sounds like denying her partner offspring through the act of abortion is a method of control for her.

I'm pro-choice, but these actions are disgusting.

Originally posted by Suspiria

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by RealSpoke

 

I never thought of this aspect before, but what if someone gets an actual rush out of an abortion? What if it is a safe and legal way to get the same thrill of killing as a serial killer would get? I'm not saying all abortions would be for that reason, but for a socio or psychopath they might find some elation in the act and then seek to do it again and again to get that same elation.

Pretty sick and sad concept.

Maybe the hormone rollercoaster and inevitable crash is the drug.

That is a significant aspect to consider! Also, as others have mentioned, there is the attention and care paid by medical staff. Many people get addicted to being sick so they can be taken care of in this way. Of course there is the possibility of a sex addiction as well.

But, what if it is an actual psychopathy? Whay if they get a thrill out of conceiving a life intentionally, and then ending that same life intentionally? Kind of a God complex! In fact, it could be even more powerful than what serial killers feel! In this case, someone can get all the control and God mechanisms by first conceiving a life, and then ending it. Double the Rush. I wonder if there have ever been any studies on this?

Originally posted by getreadyalready
But, what if it is an actual psychopathy? Whay if they get a thrill out of conceiving a life intentionally, and then ending that same life intentionally? Kind of a God complex! In fact, it could be even more powerful than what serial killers feel! In this case, someone can get all the control and God mechanisms by first conceiving a life, and then ending it. Double the Rush. I wonder if there have ever been any studies on this?

...disturbing because of the sheer plausibility.

Sick and twisted, but that is psycopathy's modus operandi.

Brilliant! Somebody get this man a Guinness....

Geezz...anyone can get a book deal nowadays.
This just seems strange to me. Someone being addicted to the actual act of having an abortion? It's almost like a drug addict admitting being addicted to buying paraphernalia.
I lump this in with "plastic surgery addicts." In my opinion, its impossible to become addicted to any highly invasive medical procedure. Some may say, well its invasive to stick a needle in your arm and intravenously inject drugs. Thats true. But they arn't addicted to the puncture or the needle, its a means to get to the high.
In the case of this woman, her many abortions are not what she is addicted to. It is some emotion that it releases, or in the opposite, a feeling the procedure numbs when she gets one.
She obviously needs help. I would say that free therapy would be alot more beneficial to this woman than a book deal.

reply to post by Unity_99


Yeah. I have only known girls who have done the pill abortion "procedure" where you take a pill at a clinic 5 weeks into the pregnancy and they described it as the most horribly painful period of their life as the early fetus was aborted and then ejected/rejected/sloughed off.. whatever.

That wasn't the actual surgical removal either, I haven't ever heard about that from anyone I know.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
why would you willingly subject your body to that?

I never heard of such a thing, I find it hard to believe.

I know several women who have had repeated abortions. Its to do with not wanting to take contraceptives for beauty-reasons. People care more about themselves than anything, so having an abortion means nothing to them, its routine.

My wife and I tried for 2 years...and we had a misscarrige.

People that use their fertility as an aid to an addiciton makes me want to vomit.

I think that abortion in and of itself is an evil thing. But this...this is absolutly disgusting.

First off didn't these Doctors look at her Medical Records?
15 procedures in 16 years?
These Doctors also need to be held accountable for malpractice.
Lots of questions need to be asked....Like who did them? How many Doctors? What Clinics?
Seriously....if true, this should have been stopped long ago.

Originally posted by antmax21
First off didn't these Doctors look at her Medical Records?
15 procedures in 16 years?
These Doctors also need to be held accountable for malpractice.
Lots of questions need to be asked....Like who did them? How many Doctors? What Clinics?
Seriously....if true, this should have been stopped long ago.

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

Why? What malpractice?

If she is still healthy, no excessive scar tissue, and obviously still able to conceive, then there is no medical reason to say no to the procedure. What exactly would you hold the doctor accountable for? They are not her mother, nor her counselor, nor her priest, they are just doctors, and as long as the procedure is safe, and legal, then the docs don't have much say-so in the matter.

Originally posted by antmax21
First off didn't these Doctors look at her Medical Records?
15 procedures in 16 years?
These Doctors also need to be held accountable for malpractice.
Lots of questions need to be asked....Like who did them? How many Doctors? What Clinics?
Seriously....if true, this should have been stopped long ago.

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

So if all 15 procedures were done by 15 separate doctors, they should all be held accountable for malpractice?

Your post is backwards.

First off, you should get the answers to your questions regarding the details before you start to point your finger at the doctors while crying "malpractice!!"

A doctor must have a willing patient before they can perform any type of procedure.

I think accountability should first be impinged upon the woman that is the subject of the OP.

reply to post by stupid girl


Do you not know what a doctor is suppose to do?
Just because you have a willing patient does not mean you proceed with a procedure.
You have to ask questions and understand the status of their mental state and what may happen as a result of said operation and overlook their medical records. Just doing a procedure for the sake of doing so is malpractice (Dr.. Death?) A doctor has to meet a standard of care. It is an element of malpractice.



Also in addition to all of this, is the woman is admitting addiction...Not one of these Dr's had foreseen this?

Originally posted by antmax21
reply to post by stupid girl

 

Do you not know what a doctor is suppose to do?
Just because you have a willing patient does not mean you proceed with a procedure.
You have to ask questions and understand the status of their mental state and what may happen as a result of said operation and overlook their medical records. Just doing a procedure for the sake of doing so is malpractice (Dr.. Death?) A doctor has to meet a standard of care. It is an element of malpractice.

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

Well, no shiite sherlock.

The obvious point of my post was a rebuttal as to the sole responsibility of all these procedures being poor judgment on behalf of the doctors.

That's why I said to get the answers to the questions before you start pointing fingers and making accusations.

Originally posted by stupid girl

Originally posted by antmax21
reply to post by stupid girl

 

Do you not know what a doctor is suppose to do?
Just because you have a willing patient does not mean you proceed with a procedure.
You have to ask questions and understand the status of their mental state and what may happen as a result of said operation and overlook their medical records. Just doing a procedure for the sake of doing so is malpractice (Dr.. Death?) A doctor has to meet a standard of care. It is an element of malpractice.

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

Well, no shiite sherlock.

The obvious point of my post was a rebuttal as to the sole responsibility of all these procedures being poor judgment on behalf of the doctors.

That's why I said to get the answers to the questions before you start pointing fingers and making accusations.

As my OP stated...."lots of questions need to be asked"...."Like who are these Doctors?" "What clinics, hospitals?" ..."Who did how many procedures?".........etc..
I rest my case.

reply to post by AzureSky


I'm absolutely fed up with people calling addiction an illness.

It's not an illness, or a mental condition. It was YOUR choice to start yourself down the road that led to your addiction.

YOU made a choice to start doing the weird abortions, collecting, taking drugs, drinking, or whatever your addiction is.

Yes, addiction certainly does take over and becomes the only driving force in your life, but YOU started it, and YOU can end it. Quit blaming mental illness or others for your condition and take action. While hard to break, addiction CAN be broken by simply stopping the activity, unlike an illness, which you cannot ignore.

Originally posted by antmax21
reply to post by stupid girl

 

Do you not know what a doctor is suppose to do?
Just because you have a willing patient does not mean you proceed with a procedure.
You have to ask questions and understand the status of their mental state and what may happen as a result of said operation and overlook their medical records. Just doing a procedure for the sake of doing so is malpractice (Dr.. Death?) A doctor has to meet a standard of care. It is an element of malpractice.

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

Also in addition to all of this, is the woman is admitting addiction...Not one of these Dr's had foreseen this?

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

No way it is substandard care or malpractice, even if the same doctor did every procedure. If the woman had a legitimate health concern (pregnancy), and she was healthy enough to undergo the procedure, then the doctor did nothing wrong in performing the procedures.

Now, if the doctor suspected this was drug-seeking behavior, then the doc had a responsibility to say no and report it. If the doc's state has a mandatory pre-procedure counseling, then the doc had to have documented that counseling session, but there is no way to jump to malpractice just because of the number of procedures.

Originally posted by antmax21

Originally posted by stupid girl

Originally posted by antmax21
reply to post by stupid girl

 

Do you not know what a doctor is suppose to do?
Just because you have a willing patient does not mean you proceed with a procedure.
You have to ask questions and understand the status of their mental state and what may happen as a result of said operation and overlook their medical records. Just doing a procedure for the sake of doing so is malpractice (Dr.. Death?) A doctor has to meet a standard of care. It is an element of malpractice.

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

Well, no shiite sherlock.

The obvious point of my post was a rebuttal as to the sole responsibility of all these procedures being poor judgment on behalf of the doctors.

That's why I said to get the answers to the questions before you start pointing fingers and making accusations.

As my OP stated...."lots of questions need to be asked"...."Like who are these Doctors?" "What clinics, hospitals?" ..."Who did how many procedures?".........etc..
I rest my case.

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

That's why I said:
1. Your post was backwards, because
2. you should get the answers to the questions before you start making un-informed accusations.

Case rested.

Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by antmax21
reply to post by stupid girl

 

Do you not know what a doctor is suppose to do?
Just because you have a willing patient does not mean you proceed with a procedure.
You have to ask questions and understand the status of their mental state and what may happen as a result of said operation and overlook their medical records. Just doing a procedure for the sake of doing so is malpractice (Dr.. Death?) A doctor has to meet a standard of care. It is an element of malpractice.

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

Also in addition to all of this, is the woman is admitting addiction...Not one of these Dr's had foreseen this?

edit on 09/30/2010 by antmax21 because: (no reason given)

No way it is substandard care or malpractice, even if the same doctor did every procedure. If the woman had a legitimate health concern (pregnancy), and she was healthy enough to undergo the procedure, then the doctor did nothing wrong in performing the procedures.

Now, if the doctor suspected this was drug-seeking behavior, then the doc had a responsibility to say no and report it. If the doc's state has a mandatory pre-procedure counseling, then the doc had to have documented that counseling session, but there is no way to jump to malpractice just because of the number of procedures.

The woman admits to addiction. However, I rewind to my OP, lots of unanswered questions. Sure you may nitpick one line about Malpractice but everything else I said coincides with a correct claim about this entire ordeal. Step one is get the information about this case.