Life is pointless

Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by Picollo30
If We Are in the Matrix Who Controls Us? The Truth May Be Surprising

Well the thing is if people tell you stuff, it isn't the same as if you discover it for yourself.

There are all sorts of theories and ideas and criticisms regarding who is in charge and who is doing what.

Ya know there is this thing about experience, that goes along with awareness. It may seem like a long way off but the journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.

It is 2012 and so everyone is waiting to see if the world will end. Waiting requires a degree of patience.

It would be silly to start anything new at a time like this in terms of a large movement or direction as a planet.

I post this all the time but I will post it again for you so that you know, that there is far far more to life than you are aware of, and if you do not seek, you will not find.

The man in charge. No he is not a reptilian, I am sorry to disappoint.
He used to work in maintenance but never sold snake oil out of a covered wagon. Contrary to rumors that have been floating around.
Robert of Oz.

Zeus' brother-in-law by one of his many marriages.
But just because he is in charge, does not mean he is the boss. Its bosses all the way up from there.

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Every belief that doesnt go with old religion is new age and bullsh!t these days... ? Umm... we are a younger generation who dont live in a box like you and your generations. Our souls came and reincarnated on Earth because your generations dont have a clue about life. So why argue person ? If you dont like my comment, why take energy out of your being and reply ? ... makes no sense, like your closed mind

These "New Agers" are new Souls incarnating at a most exciting time on Earth, we are here to help and enlighten you brain dead and average minds who have been stuck in the system and its beliefs your entire life.

End of Story.

~ love is an art

You humans are so attached to this World... Earth is a crapppy reality and has been for a long time! The after life is beautiful, its creation, its pure consciousness and awareness. Just beucase your afraid of the unknown, and you are attached to something or place... doesnt mean the unknown and somewhere else is not better and more pure then here. You humans think you know so much.. its sad to see such an attachment to this planet. All I said is, if its too much for you, and you dont like it, then go back where your spirit came from. Your life time here is a FLASH compared to your life in the spirit side. Just seems so realistic and true when your living in a body with a limited consciousness and awareness ... IF you dont understand it, why argue .. ?

To the OP and the rest who dont enjoy this illusionary reality because its too much to handle.... why dont you meditate and try and expand your consciousness ? You will realize there is more to reality then the material world and what you have seen with your eyes.. Thats the best advice you can give a suicidal or someone in depression.

You know when we created the Internet, we were kindof hoping that people would use it to further their knowledge even if they had little money.
The nice thing about Robert is he knows about the fact that money is not the answer to everything.
Freedom dictates however that those who wish to strive for little else may do so.

Now I criticize Robert all the time because he and I are very good friends. And I do often sound like you in the start of this thread because lets face it if it were up to us, we would do things differently.

But there is a situation that is in effect here that is unusual, and as such is being dealt with by the powers that are, in ways that you and I might not think best but then we are not there able to see as much as they can.

But Robert is not one of the higher ups he is down to earth, a regular good honest man, who knows the value of wisdom and friendship etc.
But he only knows how to run a planet this way. And he is not a gambler. When you gamble on things often people die and things get bad. Take communism for instance. That was bad. It wasn't meant to be. Read Marx.
He is many people's favorite philosopher. And he even said if this is Marxism that I am seeing then I am no Marxist. The idea of sharing is contrary to human greed and so greed wins.

But even before communism got off the ground it was infiltrated and sabotaged because there are people who like the system the way it is, it works for them, and to change the system would not be in their best interest.
I am not saying communism is the answer. The problem is human nature and it can be fixed.
Its a technical problem.
Its almost a mechanical technical problem so to blame anyone is wrong. Things went haywire here long ago and things need to be fixed on a level most humans could not even grasp.
And so we are waiting to see if anything will be done or if we will have to find more coping strategies.
We should know this year.

You know if you wanted to find a shortcut to enlightenment I don't think there is one. I just finished watching this silly movie that talks about the antediluvian world and what happened. In an attempt to explain why things are the way they are today. And so it is above top secret information that it is trying to explain, and so for some reason, often people will make the silliest corniest movies you ever saw in your life, so that no scientist could discuss the subject matter in public, because first and foremost they wouldn't admit to watching the movie.
At least not all of it.
But get Utorrent, download The Mole People, from 1956 and in that movie they take the subject of the moon and Robert, and transpose that to the inside of the earth, in some weird attempt to explain something which I have no idea what it is that they were trying to explain.
I guess they were trying to explain how it is, that we have a Sandman like Robert.
But I could give you a long list of these types of informational innuendo movies but it would not do you any good because you need to be enlightened, to understand what they are saying. And even then, often its difficult to say what they were saying. As in the Mole People.
en.wikipedia.org...

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Thanks for starting this thread,

I know a guy that thinks his sole purpose in life is to just witness miracles. What a flighty character! Super cool, though.

His miracles are far and few in between, the one's he is able to recognize, and describe to me, anyway.

He should keep a journal. I can't influence him either-way.


You'll find your niche.

I agree with the others earlier who said that you thinking fun, career, etc is an illusion is a big part of the problem. I also agree with the person earlier who said were privledged to be here. For all we know, theres a big waiting list in the other world of trillions of people who want to make it down here, but you have the privileged to be here.

Anyways, I've had my moments of being down, and one of the things which helps me out is getting to the root of the problem and asking why: Here's an example of something I have done:

I am sad:
why?
I am not satisfied with my career
why?
because I dont feel very accomplished in what im doing
why?
I see all of my friends who have better careers and im just here working at _______
why does this make me sad?
because Im comparing myself to them.

Ok, at this point, we've found the root reason of why this person might be sad. Now this is where you alter you're perspective.
Here this person has to realize something like: all accomplishment is is a comparison. If I only graduated high school, and some others have their bachelors degree, then i dont feel too accomplished. Yet if you were only surrounded by people who graduated middle school, then you would feel bad ass.

The core belief that was causing the sadness here was the feeling that this person isnt as accomplished due to what he sees other friends doing.

some other things to add to this might be adopting such perspectives as:
I have a job that I can take less seriously than my friends, which gives me an oppertunity to mess around at work at levels where others cant
Maybe you have more fun at your job, maybe your friends are just putting up a front that all is good
etc.

You have to change your perspective/beliefs if you want feeling of being down to go away. I've heard the saying before that life is 90% attitude and 10% what happens to you. If this is true, if life is 90% perspective, will going to the other world (if you were considering suicide) REALLY help you with your perspective? or will you just have the same view on things? If you leave now, any suffering you went through will be in vein, where as if you work it out and do something great, that suffering will have meant more, it will have ultimately lead you on the path to greatness.

I honestly think that emotions create, emotions ARE NOT ILLUSIONS, which means fun is not an illusion. How many times have you been in a hurry only to find that the railroad crossing go down and theres some slow train woddling in front of you? its cause you were on the frequency to encounter that. What about law of attraction? you visualize something, it comes to frutation. What if you were visualizing something, but had a super super strong emotional state implying that its not going to happen, do you think it would come about. Probably not, becuase you would start thinking "gee, im visualizing this, but I sure wish it were possible to come true". Even if you werent thinking this, you would be sugguesting it to yourself subconsciously, which would probably bring about similar results.

Havnt you heard stories about a loved one dying and the other loved one sensing it? these emotional attachments created a bond.

I've also heard of the auras of loved ones fusing when they are in love

I've heard of one person telepathically sending another person a thought (while not looking at each other), and both their brain waves would be in perfect sync

what about that quantum physics experiment where sending water different emotions has a significant effect on how ice crystals of that water form

I dont know, maybe you should look up evidence that emotions and though have substence to them. this category would probably fall under quantum physics. KEEP AN OPEN MIND THOUGH, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!! DROP YOUR EGO IN ANY WAY THAT YOU HAVE AN URGE TO PROVE ANY SUCH EVIDENCE WRONG (unless its really rediculous). TAKE A RISK IN TRYING THIS. Remember everything is a risk to some extent EVEN NOT TAKING A RISK

Every time you loose something, you receive something (one door opens, another one closes): what did this whole ordeal allow you to recieve? maybe you're not as afraid of dying, so you can take some magnificant risks and do amazing things that people wouldnt dare to do. I dont know, thats only for you to answer.

wouldnt you say that because you are feeling sadness, that means there's light? if this was how things normally are, it would just feel casual and you wouldnt need to be posting on here.

Continued: also, be glad you can feel emotion, seems like there are alot of people who try to filter their true feelings through their intellect.

I hate to use a story from an organized religion due to some peoples notice flaws in theses religions, but one story I like is the story in the bible where jonah (I think thats his name) tries to go a different direction than what god wanted, gets swallowed by a fish (hence, hes going through his own little hard time being in the belly of a fish and all), only to be let out of the fish where god origionally wanted him to go.

whether you believe in god or not, the point im making with this is that sometimes storms come in our life to ultimately lead us in the right direction. Once again, this is for you to decide if its true or not.

Anyways, I really hope the best for you brother (or sister), just realize that alot of us here, even though we may not know you, do not think your life is pointless, or else we wouldnt be taking the time to convince you otherwise. I agree with the others who said to take some time to do some fun things: smell flowers, see what clouds look like what, hit on some women (or men) and go on some dates

remember: every oppertunity is a once in a lifetime unique oppertunity, you might encounter something similar, but not exactly the same. its not about winning or loosing, but about playing the game, its not about how hard you get hit, but about how many times you can get hit while you keep moving forward. In a way, caring about what others think is only trying to please them and make them happy. Not caring about what others think gives you ultimate freedom. Quality of life is more important than standard of living, I can give you many more if you need.

exciting goals and an open mind keep you young at heart! also, being open to life will allow you to end up in amazing situation which might blow your mind and bring you wonder.

Stay strong!

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I just turned 49 the other day- I'm your average white heterosexual male. I have a son who is in prison for dealing meth. He's 27- he's a really handsome guy too- not the speed freak looking types on Dr. Phil.

I've got a daughter as well. She's 26. She used to be really pretty, blonde, blue eyes, but she got fat and she's drugged out on speed, weed and booze too. She's the stereotypical american bitch, falling down drunk with a basic '# you' attitude. She doesn't talk to me.

Why? Cause I'm a bad person? Cause I abused her? No, nothing like that. The answer is a lot more depressing. She just doesn't give a # about me because I don't make 6 figures a year. You see, adult daughters only come around to see their fathers only when they're bankrolling them. It's that cut and dried.

And to be honest, I really don't want to be around her, because at my age with the amount of drugs & booze she's using I would be dead in a month. yes, I get sucked up in her tornado when I'm around her. Call me weak, call me what you will - but it's the truth.

I'm not a bad looking guy- even for my age - I'm tall and well built and I even get the young young girls' attention - the older guy deal. But even best case scenario - if I land one of them I'm just going to end up with more child support. I already have a 70,000 dollar child support judgment on my head - most of it interest that has accrued. They started putting interest on past due child support back in the 90s. You could call me a bum, but I'd like to know how many people you know who can come up with 70,000 dollars.

Anyway, I read once, "if you don't like the way your life is going, don't worry - it'll all be over soon." (As in life is short.)

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Rough stuff. Have you tried taking a poop? Sometimes, I find you just have to poop.

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maybe meds gives you the adverse intended effect if you are on meds I would seek a second opinion, maybe even a hotline. I am not being sarcastic either

I think you have given up on society, and i dont blame you..

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The Heart Sutra

Om! Salutation to the blessed and noble one! (who has reached the other shore of the most excellent transcendental wisdom).
(In this invocation the perfection of transcendental wisdom is personified as the compassionate mother of bodhi -- wisdom -- who bestows enlightenment upon the bodhisattvas who had vigilantly followed the course prescribed for the aspirant to full enlightenment -- samyak sambodhi.)
The noble bodhisattva, Avalokitesvara, being engaged in practicing the deep transcendental wisdom-discipline, looked down from above upon the fiveskandhas (aggregates), and saw that in their svabhava (self-being) they are devoid of substance.
Here, O Sariputra, bodily-form is voidness; verily, voidness is bodily-form. Apart from bodily-form there is no voidness; so apart from voidness there is no bodily-form. That which is voidness is bodily-form; that which is bodily-form is voidness. Likewise (the four aggregates) feeling, perception, mental imaging, and consciousness (are devoid of substance).
Here, O Sariputra, all phenomena of existence are characterized by voidness: neither born nor annihilated, neither blemished nor immaculate, neither deficient nor overfilled.
Therefore, O Sariputra, in voidness there is no bodily-form, no feeling, no mental imaging, no consciousness; no eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, or mind; no sense objects of bodily-form, sound, smell, taste, or touchable states; no visual element, and so forth, until one comes to no mind-cognition element. There is no ignorance, nor extinction of ignorance, until we come to: no aging and death, nor extinction of aging and death. There is no suffering, no origination, no cessation, no path; there is no higher knowledge, no attainment (of nirvana), no nonattainment.
Therefore, O Sariputra, by reason of his nonattainment (of nirvana), the bodhisattva, having resorted to prajnaparamita(transcendental wisdom), dwells serenely with perfect mental freedom. By his non-possession of mental impediments (the bodhisattva) without fear, having surpassed all perversions, attains the unattainable (bliss of) nirvana.
All Buddhas, self-appointed to appear in the three periods of time (past, present, and future), having resorted to the incomparable prajnaparamita, have become fully awake to samyak sambodhi (absolute perfect enlightenment).
Therefore prajnaparamita should be recognized as the great mantra, the mantra of great wisdom, the most sublime mantra, the incomparable mantra and the alleviator of all suffering; it is truth by reason of its being nonfalsehood. This is the mantra proclaimed in prajnaparamita. It is:
Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone altogether beyond (to the other shore)! O enlightenment! Be it so! Hail!

There is nothing to gain and lose. Everything is "Impermanence"
Just let anything flow like water, not grasp it, This is the wisdom of Zen

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Morpheusxxz, I have experienced this as well, especially when there is a null zone of energy.
Self realization takes place through these phases, and yes, there is the "letting go" of the
illusions along with not being interested in anything external at all including physicality,
the holographic projection.
It is a phase for self realization - the "awareness" in which one is. And, there is a point
to this inner rediscovery, even though it may not be appearing as so in the process.
Hang in there, for true self knows exactly what it is doing, and this will be discovered.
In awareness of realized self, and beyond duality/polarity, there is indeed a spacious Joy
organically present, and it is real, whole, complete, lacking nothing, depending on No-Thing,
and it reflects ItSelf everywhere.
Just BE, and it will unfold.....it already is.
What I found helpful, was to Be the observer of it all, and free from the Mind.
Consciousness is not bound to form, or Mind. We are not only the Consciousness which
uses the Mind as the tool it is, we are the Awareness ItSelf from which it all arises.
Thank You for bringing through the higher frequencies of energy, by just your Being, Present,
as Presence. And you are right on purpose in every moment!

Originally posted by Dmonix
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Rough stuff. Have you tried taking a poop? Sometimes, I find you just have to poop.

HAHAHAHAHA! Do you have any idea the truth you speak??? I don't get depressed if I don't poop regularly. What I get is a desperate need to sleeeeep a lot! And my brain feels like it's just floating about in my skull. I can't think straight.

Everybody...GO POOP!

Do you think the OP is coming back, his mood is pissed. He said if he distracts himself for a few days the question comes back. He was talking about illusions that distract him from reality. Losing interest in all things in life. If he comes back maybe he will tell us what comes back into his mind to disturb him? His body breaking down and atoms returning to Earth and thinking his life doesn't matter. Isolating himself and playing nothing but video games.

What games are you playing? GameStop just had a weekend sale buy 2 get 1 free. Did you ever hear the phrase "life's a garden , Dig it". It's from the movie Joe Dirt, he spent his life being stranded at the grand canyon and searching for his family for 15 years or so. Stayed surprisingly upbeat about his plight. Found his parents and started a new family with his friends, because home is where you make it.

It's the question that drives us. I can only show you the door you have to walk through it. If you think of all the beauty in the world, everything you had ever known and will ever know. Illusions like natural substances that keep you distracted like " love" . From the question. I am sorry if this sounds like bull----- . I just found out someone I know was diagnosed with cancer. Someone went off on a rant saying I am older and got problems and stop complaining. Medication can make you feel better or distracted, just take a pill so your symptoms of feeling depressed go away , heard someone say to someone who was suicidal say even if you have to take a pill for the rest of your life if your symptoms don't come back. They are powerful psychotropics that are made to affect your brain chemistry. If you are deeply depressed to the point where you are now maybe an option.

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I agree man in everything that you said. Have been through the same period and I think I am just getting out of it. Although it does sound like what people would call 'depression' i say eff that too... BUT even tho I dont appreciate the clinical definition (like everybody is 'supposed' to be happy or something? I find that human beings have an ability to not only get into these states of mind but also have the ability to get out of it. Sometimes it is just your mind or mindset going through a change. Things you once loved or appreciated or had respect for... you find them stupid or childish (I dont know your age but this I would say happens around high school adolescence). You might have one of these 're-evaluations of life' about once a decade or so. On such occasions I look at it like a good thing once I realize its happening... it means that even if its without your knowledge you are evaluating everything. You could be the smartest person in the world and not even know you are doing it. The trick to get out of it is realize when dealing with your brain or emotional states you are dealing with a system (neuro, endochrine, nervous system whatever) and that system reacts to the environment in different ways... So get out of your environment... go for walks do things you wouldnt normally do... Go to the gym and workout... eff all those musclebound gym rats there... use them for knowledge on how to make yourself look better... just because you work out doesnt make you a D-bag... If you dont like your friends right now maybe they suck... maybe you should find other ones... and you're not going to do that playing CoD...

Ok now onto the 'prison' argument... You are absolutely correct... (whats even more depressing is if you check out 'simulation theory'... which says not only is this just a prison... that we arent even real.... We are essentially a simulation run by people far more advanced than us and that we are all just sublayers of life that eventually create their OWN simulations into infinity....) My answer to that is... So what? Why fixate on that? Think about it the earth has been around like 4.6 billion years.... we have been around for less than 100... So we have ALL been dead longer than we have been alive... and the things that I have experienced while alive are infinitely better than the things I experienced while dead... and uhhh..... dont have any sort of recollection of. Point is who cares... You dont need a meaning for life in order for you to live it. Maybe its finding out what is worth living and dying for... whats worth fighting for... Those are the important questions... the important questions are questions you havent thought of yet... this whole thing is a process... no matter how stupid it might seem.

Wish you the best brah

Old guy here. Spent a lifetime battling deeply wired depression programs.
Your post indicates two important things: First, that you are very sensitive and caring. Most depressed people are. Depression is a high level emotion. Second, your response programs are geared to the depressing, perhaps with manic periods.
Relevant facts. Everything we feel is caused by, and causes, certain hormones in the brain. It makes no difference what we are angry at, even if it is real or not, the hormones are the same, for all angers. The same for all other emotions. We must deal with the core of the issues. Our own hormones and brain firings. Our own thoughts. We become addicted to our hormones. If we are trained to feel bad, we continue to do so because we are addicted to those feelings, those hormones.
The amazing solution is, that the conscious ego, has so much potential control over all hormones. That is the game.
Original post said: “And if we look at the most basic level, we are nothing but a mass of many atoms held together by a force.” First, this shows how as westerners, we identify with the temporary balls of matter rather than the relatively eternal force. And, “the most basic level,” implies reductionism, a valid tool. But where does one stop the reducing? We can go a lot farther “down” than atoms. So really,” if we look at the most basic level,” we are nothing but quantum information, emerging from, and/or into, consciousness. Information doesn’t die.
Life meaningless? yup. Generic reincarnation theory says basically, the purpose of existence is to become so enlightened you don’t have to exist anymore. What a deal.

The depression programs in you will likely be there a long time. We learn from them, how to handle them, transform the energy, etc. There is great power hidden in all our harmful emotions. Suggestions: Exercise, regular. Learn, what you are, correlate- physics, neurology, evolution, with metaphysics of your own body energy system. And finally, I suggest instead of playing so many video games, you get some animation software and learn to create them.
Creating games of your choice, on screen, and in your head.
Oh yea, one more thing. The evolution of consciousness seems to follow the pleasure principle. Love, being the greatest pleasure. Pleasure and happiness, open the body to energy. Depression, anger and hate all close the energy off. This can be monitored internally or externally.

Originally posted by yourmaker

Originally posted by TC Mike
I take it you don't have a walk with the Creator God, since you seem only to think you exist because the atoms in your dna are packed the right way. What your saying reminds me of the book of Ecclesiastes, where for the writer, everything under the sun is meaningless.

for some of us, the idea of a creator god is rather insulting to the universe.

god is the highest form of intelligence, consciousness , in its purest form it is everything.
ultimately you are insulting yourself .

Honestly, I feel you OP. Lately I can't find joy in anything either. Also alot of you are missing the point where he says he doesn't like this Illusion anymore.

"Have a kid it'll change your life" Well sure if you are a family type person and have enough money to supoort a family. Some people don't wanna reproduce or if they do don't have the money to do so. Also other key factors have to do with our current economy. I live in NC and there are like NO job openings here at all. How do I know you ask? I have 2 people that live in my living room right now that are constantly looking for a job. They can't find a single one. They have applied to hundreds. So while you people are having fun with family and doing fun stuff that require money others are unfortunate and can't do so. I myself am on SSI and I only get about $689 a month, $325 for rent and bills, another $100 for my cellphone (I know I don't need one now but I have another year before I can get off the contract.) and then the rest of the money goes towards laundry, food, and gas money. So even $689 a month you can't do much with and can get very depressing if you don't have any friends or family that you get along with, or friends at all.

Anyways, I hope you find your calling OP, I am struggling myself but hopefully by July I will be better.

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Does a worm ask itself the purpose of living? Does it stop it's daily function in life because it has become apathetic and given up hope for it's existence? Yet without the worm, life as we know it would not exist. The very earth would not be what it is today.

Every living thing no matter how seemingly insignificant has incredible purpose and meaning in the grand design of it all. That does not mean each thing can see what that is. In fact most are blind to their purpose and importance. They perform their actions for the greater good of all life.

You have been endowed with a higher degree of consciousness in a unique way. You have also been endowed with the conscious choice to influence the sea of life in the universe. Not just relegated to choosing one form but the choices are infinite in how you can affect everything.

You have learned one of the many deceptions of this world. The illusions. What are they keeping you from? What hidden gem is being veiled from your eyes?

Many who discover the great secret of finding a measure of peace have discovered that their purpose is not to wallow in 'nothingness' but rather to give themselves to a world who is in need and desperation. If you stay where you are you are putting yourself on the alter of the first deception as a meaningless sacrifice that has done nothing good for anything or anyone, yourself included.

Discovering what the purpose of the deception is that is keeping you from discovering the greatest truth of all is vital.

Then you can discover the realization within yourself that selflessness has to be one of the keys, because we are not here for ourselves.

Look around you and see the condition of 'the fall' and then all the deceptions will make sense as to why 'they' are busy hiding the truth from everyone.

It is not hard to feel a sense of complete meaninglessness in a world intoxicated with illusions and deceptions. None of which are real or meaningful and all of which are designed to remove us all from love and connection. Designed to keep us from all that is 'Real' and 'Truthful'.

'They' want you to feel hopeless and 'they' want you to feel that all life is meaningless. In doing so 'they' have conquered your soul.

Remember you have been born with the breath of G-d. Seek that and you will have been found.