The Smear Campaign Against Trayvon Martin

reply to post by zroth


You realize he made that comment and addressed the case for the 1st time after a week of marches and rallies nationwide, right? His comment didn't add anything new to the mix whatsoever.

ETA Kindly stop derailing the topic.

reply to post by Kali74


I think it's important. Just as important as Zimmerman's past, which is pretty bad and the only one initially highlighted by the media. They made it sound like Zimmerman was running around looking for black people to kill fueled by racism.

This is about to become the last thread, all over again. The "Trayvon was a drug dealing thug who assaulted poor innocent Zimmerman" folks will be here. Then the few people who actually have experience african american culture will come but will be drowned out by the perceived justifications of this KIDS death.

Then the mod (greeneyed?) will come in, and manners & decorum about 50 posts, then she will close the thread..

This topic is really not for ATS anymore. It's just turning everybody against each other. Peoples ugly sides are showing..

Bottom line, and unarmed kid, who committed no crime at least at the time of his murder, is dead, because he was stereotyped, which lead to a series of unfortunate events.

reply to post by Domo1


So make up lies? We both know damn well why there's smearing and combating media bias isn't it. People are trying to justify their hate, it's as simple as that.

reply to post by Domo1


Well, conversely, stand your ground can be applicable to Trayvon Martin. He felt threatened so he swung, if that is what really happened. Zimmerman's claim may be nullified as he is the aggressor.

No offense, Kali, but I'm so tired of seeing this topic take over everything in the media. This thread included. We are already way over the top with Trayvon threads here on ATS. Just take a look at the New Topics page. It's ridiculous.

Normally we can all agree that this type of media coverage on ANYTHING is a sideshow to what's really going on. We normally do a great job of denying ignorance and pulling back the curtain.

I'm not even going to go so far as to pin this on the Obama administration, as I think it's bigger than that. Sure, I believe that this administration is terrible for our country, but I believe would be in near the same boat had a republican been elected during the last season. The people in charge are controlled by those that have a big enough purse to influence whoever they need to, to get the job done.

This issue not only pulls at our heartstrings, as we ALL know that it could have been avoided and now two families are being put through the ringer....but it puts many of the current agendas in this country to the forefront.

This is all about DIVISION. They are dividing us in any way they can, be it socio-economic, race, political beliefs, religion...EVERYTHING. There has never been a bigger, more BLATANT power-grab (at least in my studies) by the real powers before. By "real powers", I mean the people that have driven the way this world has been moving in the last several hundred years (maybe even beyond then) They are currently pulling out all the stops to move forward with the next part of their agenda.

On top of dividing us, they are working to take away our ability to protect our selves. YES, I am talking about gun control laws. It's all just part of a big agenda.

The issue happened and it's very sad. I'm very sorry for Trayvon and his family, as I believe this all could have been avoided if Zimmerman had just stopped pursuing him when the dispatcher said to. However, I don't know the whole story and I can never say for sure. With all that being said, there is what we're left with...

We cannot stand up against them if we are not a collective. These people control the money, the resources, the militaries, the technology and our true history. The only defense we have is each other and our ability to come together to defeat this.

Again, I'm sorry if I came off as rude, Kali, as this has nothing to do with you personally.

Originally posted by CaptainNemo
reply to post by Domo1

 

Well, conversely, stand your ground can be applicable to Trayvon Martin. He felt threatened so he swung, if that is what really happened. Zimmerman's claim may be nullified as he is the aggressor.

Actually, the author of "stand your ground" says it does not apply. Also, Zimmermans lawyer said the same thing.

Originally posted by Kali74
First I'm going to say that I will make no effort here to be unbiased. I'm flat out disgusted and saddened that human beings can act this way. Regardless of anything about Martin's past, he was profiled as a criminal walking home in his own neighborhood (the neighborhood his father lives in) and killed for it.

I have seen images of a young black teenager with tattoos, gold teeth, flashing the middle finger as if it's some kind of proof that he was a drug dealing, gang-banger. Those pictures represent nothing "thug" and most if not all are not even him...plastered all over this forum. If that is what you guys think a thug is we're in way worse trouble that I ever imagined.

I don't care if this sways opinions, I don't care what you think of me for being so outspoken, I don't care if you believe it or not...but you who are guilty of posting this crap and you who allowed it (even though it was reported as false information or others posted showing they were crap and not factual), should ask yourselves a big why.

Why does this boy need to be a thug in your minds?

Trayvon Martin as he appeared on his actual Facebook page

Over the last 48 hours, there has been a sustained effort to smear Trayvon Martin, the 17-year old African-American who was shot dead by George Zimmerman a month ago. Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, said, “They killed my son, now they’re trying to kill his reputation.” Thus far these attacks have fallen into two categories: false and irrelevant. Much of this leaked information seems intended to play into stereotypes about young African-American males. Here’s what everyone should know:

1. Prominent conservative websites published fake photos of Martin. Twitchy, a new website run by prominent conservative blogger Michelle Malkin, promoted a photo — purportedly from Martin’s Facebook page — that shows Martin in saggy pants and flipping the bird. The photo, which spread quickly on conservative websites and Twitter, is intended to paint Martin as a thug. As Twitchy later acknowledged, it is not a photo of Trayvon Martin. [Examiner]

2. The Sanford Police selectively leaked irrelevant, negative information about Martin. The authorities told the Orlando Sentinel this morning that Trayvon was suspended from school for ten days “after being found with an empty marijuana baggie.” There is no evidence that Martin was under the influence of drugs at the time of his death, nor would prior possession of marijuana be a reason for killing him. It’s unclear what the relevance of the leak was, other than to smear Martin. [Orlando Sentinel]

3. On Fox News, Geraldo said that Martin was dressed “like a wannabe gangster.” Bill O’Reilly agreed with him. The sole evidence is that Martin was wearing a hoodie. Geraldo added that “everyone that ever stuck up a convenience store” was wearing a hoodie. [ThinkProgress; The Blaze]

4. Without any evidence, prominent right-wing bloggers suggested that Martin was a drug dealer. Right-wing blogger Dan Riehl advances the theory, also advanced in a widely linked peice on a site called Wagist. There does not appear to be any evidence to support this claim whatsoever. [Riehl World View]

5. Without any evidence, a right-wing columnist alleged that Martin assaulted a bus driver. Unlike Zimmerman, Trayvon has no documented history of violence. This allegation continues to be advanced by a blogger on the Examiner even after the real reason was leaked to the police and confirmed by the family. [Miami Herald; Examiner]

6. Zimmerman’s friend says Martin was to blame because he was disrespectful to Zimmerman. Zimmerman’s friend Joe Oliver said that Martin would not have been shot to death if Trayvon had just said “I’m staying with my parents.” Of course, Zimmerman was not a police officer, and Trayvon had no duty to tell him who he was or where he was going. [NBC News]

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edit on 26-3-2012 by Kali74 because: (no reason given)

It's too bad that people don't show any outrage about the young Black men who are killed every day in this country.

The outrage only surfaces when a white person is involved. That's when Sharpton and Jackson crawl out from under their rocks to fan the "race card" flames. If those two truly cared, they'd be in Compton or Oakland EVERY day.

reply to post by bg_socalif


That's because their killers usually get arrested........ A.K.A the missing link..

You and a bunch of others seem to forget that. If a black man shoots a black man, he goes to jail. If Zimmerman does it, he doesn't get anything....

Stormfront Deliberately Shows Wrong Photo Of Trayvon Martin Looking ‘Gangsta’ (IMAGE)

Stormfront - a neoNazi hate group - has been passing around an image they claim is of "gangsta" Treyvon Martin, which has sadly been dutifully posted to this site by some less-than-diligent members.

The photos are not of Martin. Just part of the racist a-holes smear campaign to demonize Martin postmortem.


Photo compiled and distributed by Stormfront.

Originally posted by CaptainNemo
reply to post by Domo1

 

Well, conversely, stand your ground can be applicable to Trayvon Martin. He felt threatened so he swung, if that is what really happened. Zimmerman's claim may be nullified as he is the aggressor.

Not quite Martin was not being attacked or assaulted. Last I heard following someone while calling police to handle it it is not illegal. It may not have been the smartest thing to do however Martin assaulting Zimmerman is even dumber and assault happens to be a crime.

reply to post by Kali74

People are trying to justify their hate, it's as simple as that.

Not everyone who thinks a person has a right to a fair trial before being convicted of murdering someone based on their race is hateful or a racist. Not everyone who thinks both parties past should be discussed is racist.

I do have to concede that the tattoos and gold teeth etc. are not important. I'm more worried about the possible past violence and drug dealing than how the young man dressed or looked. I don't find hoodies to be suspicious, hell I was wearing one earlier. I also don't find black people to be suspicious.

reply to post by bg_socalif

It's too bad that people don't show any outrage about the young Black men who are killed every day in this country. The outrage only surfaces when a white person is involved.

No, the outrage is because there is reason to think that Zimmerman targeted Martin because of his race.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer


Stormfront - a neoNazi hate group - has been passing around an image they claim is of "gangsta" Treyvon Martin, which has sadly been dutifully posted to this site by some less-than-diligent members.

HOLY HELL WTF is wrong with them?

reply to post by TsukiLunar

No, the outrage is because there is reason to think that Zimmerman targeted Martin because of his race.

I think he was targeted because he was a stranger in a controlled access community, young and walking in the rain at night. Those things would jump out at me a lot sooner than the persons race.

I think Zimmerman should go to trial, but there is no way in hell it would be a fair trial. Look how many have already convicted him? Why give Martin the benefit of the doubt? Because he was young and black? How is THAT fair?

reply to post by freakjive


No I don't take it as rude, believe it or not this comes from myself being sick of what I'm reading on ATS. Regardless of it all...the media hype etc...slandering a dead boy for walking home, it's just more than I can stomach. I feel that people need to deny the ignorance that is being spewed in most of the other threads. People should know that most of their talking points are lies.

This is all nonsense. Nobody here personally knew either person. Furthermore, nobody here was at the scene when this happened. There are so many different scenarios that could of happened that evening, and for anyone to assume they know is complete nonsense. The whole people know for sure he was a gangbanger, or the Black Panthers putting a $10,000 bounty on this guy is absurd and unacceptable. Every angle there is race baiting, and it's getting a little ridiculous.For a site that claims a motto of DENY IGNORANCE I'm sure seeing a lot of it. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves for not keeping an even keel and voluntarily getting drug into a racial spat. I care not about race, or ethnic background, or gender, or sexual preference. I care about what really happened, whatever that may be. Is this the progress that this country strives for? Is this the tolerance that we claim to have? Because I see none. AMERICA! Land of the free! Home of the socially intolerant!

reply to post by TsukiLunar

HOLY HELL WTF is wrong with them?

Stormfront - a neoNazi hate group

reply to post by Domo1

I think he was targeted because he was a stranger in a controlled access community, young and walking in the rain at night.

Hmmm, I find it hard to buy that Domo. I mean, Zimmerman does have a habit of calling the police on young black males for no reason(one of them was 9 yrs old).

Oh ok, so when when I, as a teen, carrying a pistol, in a public place I considered my own and would kill for, walked with a hoodie (which WAS to conceal my identity from the crimes I was a heart beat from committing) just because I was a youngster doesn't mean I couldn't kill a grown man. Pfft!

Trayvon may as well could have been a thug and that means DANGER!

I, growing up, knew 10 year olds that packed heat! I knew them to perform ( "ride" as the youngsters call it). A child would kill you where I'm from! Okay!

Trayvon may well have been a legitimate threat, especially on first sight! He's 6'3 in a hoodie at night in a neighborhood he's not known for being from! That's a serious threat where I come from and I don't come from stupid backgrounds ya dig?

YOU may know children to be innocent where your "hilly dilly it's all good" world is from and remains, but I was raised where kids will harm you just for not having the right slang and not knowing who is in charge.

It's not that us kids THOUGHT we were bad, we were forced by threat of death to make sure the territory we walked was of the same understanding: WE own this!

Point a gun at a 12 year old and tell him what to do...bet he does it, and if that involves killing others so he can live...you are a dead man!

Trayvon may as well been caught up in the same vicious cycle I knew growing up and there's no doubt in my mind in that case he was dangerous.

George Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty! If you disagree...I charge YOU to hang you first!