Trayvon Martin Shooter Told Cops Teenager Went For His Gun

reply to post by dragonridr


Alright so how bout you tell me how one single man gets out of Domestic Violence charges, Assault, Assault on an officer, and now this? Who is that lucky to beat all those charges? Maybe someone with a judge for a daddy?

Originally posted by TruckDriver69
reply to post by braindeadconservatives

 

Martin started the fight, got the upper hand and then was shot in self defense. Yep, sounds about right to me. The "Child" was not the victim here. The victim lived and the criminal died. We all win.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you were there that night. Since you seem to know soooo much about this case because you were clearly there that night and witnessed everything that happened, from the moment Zimmerman saw Martin to the cops showing up after Martin was dead, why haven't you gone to the police about it?

reply to post by braindeadconservatives


The victim stated that he was jumped from behind. A witness stated that the "Child" was the aggressor. The Victim was walking back to his car and was jumped by the "Child." Again, just going by the facts that we know as of right now. If this happened in Chicago, maybe the "Child" could be resurrected to not only tell his side of the story but also vote for Obama, the head "Child" in the White House.

reply to post by TruckDriver69


There are people out there in the world who go off for the most insignificant of reasons, my alcoholic step grandfather once assulted by step dad for ... a piece of cheese rind on the kitchen floor .... he'd been totally fine and happy but as soon as he saw the offensive food item ...well things changed in a blink of any eye.

In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer.” He was 20 years old at the time and both charges are third-degree felonies.

According to the report, the charges were reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Msnbc.com reports that accounts indicated Zimermann shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at a bar.

Msnbc.com reports that in 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a motion for a restraining order and alleged domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order against Zuazo. Both restraining orders’ were granted.

In December 2006, msnbc.com reports that Zimmerman was charged with speeding -- but the case was later dismissed when the officer failed to show up in court.

According to a Miami Herald investigation, early in the investigation in the death of Martin, the Sanford Police Department requested an arrest warrant from the Seminole County State Attorney’s office.
The Herald reports that a Sanford Police incident document shows the case was categorized as “homicide/negligent manslaughter.”

He's been a very lucky man with regard to not having a single charge stick....
www.wptv.com...

Abusers frequently have the following characteristics:
Tend to be moody and unpredictable. They may be nice one minute and the next minute explosive. Explosiveness and mood swings are typical of men who beat their partners.
Often blow up in anger at small incidents. Easily insulted.
May have a fascination with weapons.
May think it is okay to solve conflicts with violence.
Often make threats of violence, breaking or striking objects.
Often use physical force during arguments.
May be cruel to animals and/or children.
Have a poor self-image; are insecure.
Blame others for their own problems.
Blame others for their own feelings and are very manipulative. An abusive person will often say "you make me mad", "you’re hurting me by not doing what I ask", or "I can’t help being angry".
Often are alcohol or drug abusers.
May have a family history of violence.
Often use verbal threats such as, "I’ll slap your mouth off", "I’ll kill you", or "I’ll break your neck". Abusers may try to excuse this behaviour by saying, "everybody talks like that".
May hold rigid stereotypical views
Are very controlling of others.
May act out instead of expressing themselves verbally.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by dragonridr

 

Alright so how bout you tell me how one single man gets out of Domestic Violence charges, Assault, Assault on an officer, and now this? Who is that lucky to beat all those charges? Maybe someone with a judge for a daddy?

Honestly - - I think its gonna be an "iffy" one.

I think Zimmerman should get manslaughter - - but nothing in this case will surprise me.

reply to post by Believer101


Just going by victim and witness statements. Once again. are those that are defending the "Child" using some kind of crystal ball here? The "Child" according to the facts of the case was dealt with properly. Maybe if the "Child" was raised in a civilized home, a simple engagement of conversation would not have set him on a path of attempted murder?

reply to post by TruckDriver69


Wow dude, you're racism is showing. Care to back up what you're spewing with FACTS?

reply to post by AliceBlackman


So what you describe in this diatribe is exactly what the "Child" demonstrated. He was the aggressor based on victim statements and witness statements. These are the facts as we know them now. Again, the "Child" was not raised in a home that was conducive to a civilized society and a simple conversation seems to have set him on the path of attempted murder. I am thankful the victim survived and the "Child" was not successful in his attempt at taking an innocent life.

reply to post by TruckDriver69


So, you're basing this off of one witness where all the others tell a completely different story? If Zimmerman was attacked from behind, how do you explain his conflicting story? First, he said Martin jumped out at him from behind a bush, but there are no bushes where the altercation and shooting took place. Then, he said Martin attacked him by punching him in the nose, breaking it. THEN, he states Martin attacked him from behind. If Martin attacked him from behind, how could he have broken his nose with the first punch, unless he had stretch armstrong arms? THEN, Zimmerman claims Martin attacked him while he was walking back to his truck, even though his truck was in the complete and utter opposite direction. Then, Zimmerman states Martin stopped for a little chat with him before attacking. Next, Zimmerman claims Martin attacked him when he went for his phone. Quite different stories if you ask me. How do you explain all of the different story changes? How do you explain the lack of blood on Zimmermans clothing? How do you explain the fact that if Martin was on top of Zimmerman "beating his head into the concrete" is body was facing down in the grass with his FEET on the sidewalk, and not upright as it would have been if he had been on top of Zimmerman with his head facing the sidewalk?

reply to post by Believer101


So you resort to not only lying about the facts as we know them but now you call me names? Hmmm.. Are you coming from the left of the spectrum?: The "Child" according to witness and victim statements was the aggressor. Facts are facts unless you are one of those black panther types.. Wouldn't surprise me in the least...

reply to post by TruckDriver69


We know Mr. Zimmerman assaulted a police officer, he was pushed through alternative sentencing .. the alcohol education program is proof of that ... so perhaps the "raising" issue was in the Zimmerman household and not the Martin home.

reply to post by TruckDriver69


Seems to me you're the one who's lying about facts here. Why don't you prove your "facts", then?

reply to post by Believer101


I am basing it off the facts that we have. Do you have any proof the "Child" didn't understand how to engage in a civil conversation and just decided to commit attempted murder? Those are the facts as we know them. Do you have any proof otherwise? According to the Police, the "Child" was the aggressor here. Or are the police only telling the truth when it fits into some perverted form of justice that fits the means to your end?

reply to post by TruckDriver69


Again, for the third time, I ask you, care to back up your statements with actual facts and sources or are you going to completely dodge my request for proof? I've already posted multiple sources for my facts in this thread alone. Not my fault if you can't simply go back a few pages and find them.

reply to post by AliceBlackman


When did this so called incident take place? Is this incident part of the facts surrounding this case at all? Can you please shoot me a link where this is part of a "Child" attempting to murder this victim?

reply to post by TruckDriver69


Here, I have a quest for you. Follow this link to this post here www.abovetopsecret.com... and dispute everything from the article with SOURCES for your "facts".

reply to post by Believer101


Are you telling me that the Police are not backing up the victims story? If they are not he would be in jail. Again, the victim was assaulted by the "Child" and the "Child" was dealt with. The victim and witnesses provided the police with these statements. The "Child" picked the wrong person to attack and the good thing is the "Child" will never be able to do that again.

I think the larger issue here is the "Children" in this country are really mad because they cannot prey on civilized society as easily as they used to. I think the "Children" should stick to their own neighborhoods if they want to flip out when engaged in civil conversations.

reply to post by Believer101


I refuse the request to take a wild goose chase but thanks anyway.

reply to post by TruckDriver69


So, you can't back up your statements with actual facts or sources or proof, then? I smell a troll in the dungeon.

reply to post by TruckDriver69


It would appear you didn't see any parallel's with Mr. Zimmerman's past violent history and alcohol issue to that of the characteristics of Abusers.

Trayvon on the other hand doesn't have a record of violence.