Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

watch how this will get way out of control

It already has.

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis


please explain to me why Obama shouldn't care about this?

That is my WHOLE point !!

Obama should be caring about ALL the injustice that happens on his watch,not just cherry-picking the ones that will garner him votes,or political victory points. Obama has enough blood on his hands already. Its hypocritical for him to even add his personalized opinion,to say the least.

I can give you example upon example of wrongs that are not being taken care of under his watch. He chose to talk about this one,and its not coincidental,in the "way" he has commented on it. Pandering to the sympathy card,for his personal agenda,all the while MANY more injustices are being played out in America,including the ones in his Administration. Sick but not so shocking,coming from him.

The moral of this story is.....never believe anything your hear from the MSM...Period..nuff' said

Zimmerman had a car, Zimmerman had a gun, Zimmerman was a watchman for his commuintiy, so that rules out he didn't know the street name I don't buy that he didn't know, Zimmerman shouldn't of got out of his car.

Martin was wearing a hoodie, Martin had a can of ice tea, Martin had a pack of skittles...

again, Zimmerman could of kept on driving, followed the boy in his car, stay on the phone with 911 while following martin.

again Zimmerman should not of got out of his car. That will be his downfall, it sure was Martin's downfall.

reply to post by KonquestAbySS

That Obama would try to use something like this to his advantage for his re-election. Florida already has a bad rep for miscounting votes, now all this? Wow, the circus has begun. The MSM is a trap

yes - Florida has had some issues with counting votes in the past...

Florida has some issues - apparently :-)

good for you and your expose :-) Obama will never get reelected by seeing to it that Florida plays by the rules

or will he?

:-)

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by Hillarie
Zimmerman is an adult and a hefty looking guy. How could a skinny unarmed 17 year old have beaten him to the point where he had to defend his life? It doesn't make sense.

LOOKS PRETTY BUFF TO ME MAN!!

This almost 18 year old man
is not this little scrawny person
they are showing from of pictures
of when he was 12 and 13.
It does make sense.. Treyvon was
attacking zimmerman and zimmerman was
screaming for help...
Zimmerman did not know if treyvon had a gun
or not he is not psychic..

I wore a hoodie today, it's dark and rainy out, OMG it must be a disguise. No, I had my hoodie up for probably the same reason he did, IT WAS RAINING. BTW I am a white girl. guess I wasn't suspicious to any one because I am a 30 something white female.

Originally posted by GhettoRice

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Zimmerman did not know if treyvon had a gun
or not he is not psychic..

When the Retreat at Twin Lakes community told Sanford police it wanted to start a neighborhood watch, city volunteer program coordinator Wendy Dorival spoke to them in September 2011. Her PowerPoint presentation, and a neighborhood watch manual the city makes available, both make clear: Don't confront. "The philosophy is, 'No weapons. Don't confront. Call the police,' " Dorival said Wednesday. She said that was her last dealings with the neighborhood, which chose its own leaders and had no sanctioning or accrediting relationship with law enforcement. The National Sheriff's Association said Wednesday it has "no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program."

So again according to the logic presented by you Trayvon could not have known Zimmerman had a gun (turns out he did contrary to sanctioned "watch" regulations, which he was not a part of) and was acting accordingly as well. This is why this need to be investigated to the fullest when a life has ended.

Do you dispute your logic can be used for Trayvon as well? PLEASE dispute me on a point by point basis if you can.

edit on 24-3-2012 by GhettoRice because: added info

edit on 24-3-2012 by GhettoRice because: (no reason given)

Again "pops" I don't mean to spam but would you be willing to take me up on this offer?

Originally posted by rebellender
watch how this will get way out of control

This is the whole thing, they want to divide and conquer.
They would love to START a race war over this and have
already started to wage it. THEY WOULD LOVE a race war
and riot to break out, so they can come in like saviours
and save us all from this crisis. It is all a big sham!
I do not want to see one innocent person sit in jail!!!
Zimmerman does not deserved to be burnt at the stake
by these public opinion BS kangaroo court garbage.

reply to post by Spiramirabilis

Obama will never get reelected by seeing to it that Florida plays by the rules

or will he?

Depends how much fuel the MSM keeps adding to the fire. By the looks of it they aren't trying to mediate anything.

Now that the video of Obama has been removed one can only conclude that his plans were deterred.

Why is everyone neglecting the fact that this means nothing? for all we know zimmerman attacked trayvon first, and trayvon fought back which was why he was on top of him, maybe it was self defence? zimmerman had no right to be following him in the first place, especially since police told him not to.

reply to post by calstorm


jesus christ more with the race-baiting. get over yourselves. keep trying to convince the world how much you love all races.

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis


please explain to me why Obama shouldn't care about this?

That is my WHOLE point !!

Obama should be caring about ALL the injustice that happens on his watch,not just cherry-picking the ones that will garner him votes,or political victory points. Obama has enough blood on his hands already. Its hypocritical for him to even add his personalized opinion,to say the least.

I can give you example upon example of wrongs that are not being taken care of under his watch. He chose to talk about this one,and its not coincidental,in the "way" he has commented on it. Pandering to the sympathy card,for his personal agenda,all the while MANY more injustices are being played out in America,including the ones in his Administration. Sick but not so shocking,coming from him.

still I am an out of work business owner Builder contractor who is 50 and have been self employed and cannot get a job washing cars because I am a liability to the company that hires me because I dont have a paid up workers comp account or a paid up employment compensation account,,,,again this issue goes untouched and not addressed by the OBAMA Administration AGAIN

but this thread isnt about me, its about zimmerman and martin

I haven't had time to dig through all the pages do if this has already been addressed please let me know. Did the witness who saw Zimmerman getting attacked call 911? If not why would someone witness an attack not call 911? If he was a friend of Zimmerman did he rush to his aid?

If I saw a friend getting attacked I think try to help him/her out 1st then dial 911. In a situation where seconds count calling 911 first would be a waste of time.

reply to post by TheDebunkMachine



really? we all know that? please show us more of your profound insight into the case. you are obviously working the case, so do share your insider knowledge.

fact of the matter is, there are no charges because there is something not yet released to the public and everybody just jumped on the race issue because the msm reported this as a WHITE man shooting a black "child".

let's just wait for the facts to shed some light before we all jump on al sharptons back

reply to post by rebellender

Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by sonnny1
That is my WHOLE point !!

Obama should be caring about ALL the injustice that happens on his watch,not just cherry-picking the ones that will garner him votes,or political victory points. Obama has enough blood on his hands already. Its hypocritical for him to even add his personalized opinion,to say the least.

I can give you example upon example of wrongs that are not being taken care of under his watch. He chose to talk about this one,and its not coincidental,in the "way" he has commented on it. Pandering to the sympathy card,for his personal agenda,all the while MANY more injustices are being played out in America,including the ones in his Administration. Sick but not so shocking,coming from him.

still I am an out of work business owner Builder contractor who is 50 and have been self employed and cannot get a job washing cars because I am a liability to the company that hires me because I dont have a paid up workers comp account or a paid up employment compensation account,,,,again this issue goes untouched and not addressed by the OBAMA Administration AGAIN

but this thread isnt about me, its about zimmerman and martin

edit on 24-3-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)

This is why logical arguments are failing on you, you are getting caught up into mixing this into a political issue like you blame the MSM of doing when this should be a pure discussion of what we collectively know and what the logical outcomes could be.

Deny Ignorance

He will never b allowed to testify in the federal trial,where this will be decided

reply to post by sonnny1


So, let's see if I've got this straight?

Obama shouldn't have an opinion about this? Or, if he does - he should also have a public opinion about everything? Or - should Obama just shut up and not have an opinion on anything? Or be president at all - ever?

Politics as usual? Maybe. So?

Wrong thread sonny - this is about something else. This is about a case that would have been swept under the rug - had it not received this kind of attention

I have no problem with that at all

Originally posted by GhettoRice
reply to post by rebellender

 

This is why logical arguments are failing on you, you are getting caught up into mixing this into a political issue like you blame the MSM of doing when this should be a pure discussion of what we collectively know and what the logical outcomes could be.

Deny Ignorance

edit on 24-3-2012 by GhettoRice because: sp

please clear up your accusations to the topic and not to me please

reply to post by Hardstepah


There is a difference between "we all know" and "for all we know". In fact its a gigantic difference, ireally shouldnt have to point that out..

Originally posted by Bullypulpit
He will never b allowed to testify in the federal trial,where this will be decided

Says who?

No one has even been charged..

Zimmerman is still an innocent man..