HC's Ancient Aliens last episode "The Mystery of Puma Punku" DEVASTATED the show haters.

reply to post by plube



Unicorns.... I didnt Belive in Dragons Either Until......
well the little Gliding Ones !

Fooled by Nature - Draco Lizard


Draco (genus)
en.wikipedia.org...

Draco volans
en.wikipedia.org...


Unicorns may of existed ?? Goat Anomaly?



just as Tales of Beard Winged Men called Quetzalcoatl
in Puma Punku & Tiwanaku




Quetzalcoatl or Anunnaki God ?





That handle baggage hes is Holding look's so familiar !!
like what you see above of the anunnaki winged god

reply to post by Byrd

Hey Byrd, could you address these questions?
A question I had when they were doing the laser and saw cutting for comparisons, is have they examined the Puma stones under a microscope to see if there are any tool marks or striations at all. Secondly, would they be able to get any type of residue(molecular level) or anything significant from testing the material, say a half inch into the surface? Granted I realize thousands of years my not leave any "residue," but maybe deeper into the rock?
Wouldn't chiseling leave some type of detectable mark?

Also, has dovetailing in stone been found in other ancient culture structures? I realize the Egyptians used dovetailing in wood, but I was curious about it's use in the monoliths or smaller stones.

Thanks,
spec

reply to post by 1AnunnakiBastard



I've never really looked at the stuff at Puma Punku till this AA episode.

It just makes no sense that this was created by early humans.

I think to put the issue to rest all one would have to do is simply mimic the tools that the people would have used for stonework in that area at that time, and demonstrate how it would have cut into the rock....effectively.

If it's unfeasible or impossible then it has to be ruled out.

This was supposedly during the Bronze Age...correct?

I found this episode thought-provoking.

The last segment about the stones possibly forming a launch ramp or vault was interesting.

What would one have put in such a vault during that period in time? Some of the carvings were almost like niches for something.

You have to be a dreamer when you watch this show.

this thread reminds of some one trying to reconstruct a dog from looking a flea

if you you to know about dogs study dogs

you can't get the right answer by asking the wrong questions

gahhh!!!

AH HA! You can't trick me into watching that garbage.

Not to attribute this work to "aliens" but one has to ponder that if the stone, angles, surface, symmetry, placement, and tooling with regard to stone hardness were impossible...you have to wonder WHO and HOW.

If by 2012 standards this is hard to recreate than what civilization was up to the task?

Because I surely don't believe the Tiwanaku did this.

I'm not an expert in masonry but surely if you think about the cuts and angles, how can you come to the conclusion that a Bronze Age or even Iron Age civilization had these skills and tools?

I wish someone would just take the BEST made Bronze or Iron Age chisel...walk out to the site and start banging on the rocks and record it. I mean I've broken hammers on brick.

A guy with a chisel cuts Granite and Diorite????????? LOL Really?

How many years would that take to finish a couple stones? If someone gave me that job I would quit before starting and call them insane....and that's if they gave me a STEEL tool.

WOW Holy S***


Ahhhh Does Illuminati HollyWood Know Something we Dont ?

Battlestar Galactica Last 10 Minutes


is that Bolivia !! South America > ? Tanzanian ? Etc ...

Battle Star Galcatica People were the Gods Anunnaki etc... : :

Ironicaly one of the Head Stars of the New Episode of Battle Star Galactica

is of Pre Colombian Descent

Edward James Olmos

probably it was their intentions


But... We are the Gods Now ! Time to Explore as Our Gods DID or our Ancestors DID
Explore the Galaxy

Sorry ATS Couldn't Resist


A Must See !!! from the Wheel to NanoTech

Prometheus - Peter Weyland TED 2023 [OFFICIAL CLIP] - HD -

These last episodes are about as much as you will get from the Disclosure Project as of Now---take it or leave it people.


Disclosure has been happening-
Just not the way you would like...but then again, that's part of the selfish ego that's never satisfied that i will be talking about from here on out.

reply to post by PaxVeritas

A guy with a chisel cuts Granite and Diorite????????? LOL Really?

The columns of the Pantheon are granite.

How were the columns made?

Some thoughts about things that have been said on this thread.

1 - Diorite is too hard, can only be cut by diamond. Cut, probably yes, broken, no. Most rocks, even the harder ones, break relatively easy when compared with metal. That's how it's possible to cut diamonds, and that's something that has been done for many centuries.

2 - They had no trees to transport the stones from the quarry to the site. They didn't need many, they had a huge lake near by, and some years ago some guy tried (and was successful, apparently) to move a 10 tone rock from the area where those rocks are supposed to have come to the other side of the lake. I don't know if he was able to move it to the final site.
How we moved a 10-ton stone across Lake Titicaca on a large reed boat

3 - They didn't had a way of lifting the rocks. They had stone ramps like the one show here, from a Peru site.
Sillustani stone ramp

Now, something that I do not really understand. What are we looking at here, a rock that had a smooth face that was turned into a rough surface or a rough surface that had something to make it smooth applied over it?


I was born and lived the first 7 years of my life over a stone cutting shop, so when they show all the broken pieces of rock it reminded me of what I used to see from the my window, the pieces that broke from the larger rocks and that the men threw to a corner of the back yard.

reply to post by Phage


To suggest that deep, thin lines with perfectly circular holes running along the bottom could be done with chisels is disingenuous. To suggest that perfect, fractions of an inch stepped insets could be chiselled into spaces less than two feet apart, even with our modern tools, is just plain wrong. The only way we could accomplish this is with a computer and laser guided diamond tipped bit, and even then, a sharp corner would be very difficult to produce. Three precise corners in succession even moreso. And there are hundreds. Curious, wouldn't you agree?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by PaxVeritas

 

A guy with a chisel cuts Granite and Diorite????????? LOL Really?

The columns of the Pantheon are granite.

How were the columns made?

edit on 3/18/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

The Pantheon was built 30 B.C.

The estimated time (still inconclusive) of Puma Punku is at least theorized to be an average of thousands years previous. And by a plateau dwelling unadvanced culture.

reply to post by jimnuggits

The only way we could accomplish this is with a computer and laser guided diamond tipped bit

Argument from incredulity

reply to post by PaxVeritas

So you're claiming the Romans used something other than chisels?

A guy with a chisel cuts Granite and Diorite????????? LOL Really?

Originally posted by PaxVeritas
This was supposedly during the Bronze Age...correct?

It depends.

According to a Carbon 14 dating, this is "only" 1,500 years old, according to a star alignment to a star chosen by some guy studying the place, it's 17,000 years old.

reply to post by ArMaP
This (Your last one) was one of the photos that looks like a casting. You see this very thing when the mixture has not been vibrated adequately or shuttering not well 'coated'. The so called perfect edge shows the exact same defects you get when removing shuttering. The smooth are has 'Bubble holes' again often seen in molds.

Yep I know this is an old object but jusy saying what I see

reply to post by Phage


Fair enough, yet your argument now seems a bit semantic. Are you suggesting that there are other ways we could accomplish this? Perhaps. But ways we could accomplish this efficiently and accurately? Very few.

At any rate, I would love to see some field notes on this site by an impartial, (relatively) objective archaeologist.

Know any?

reply to post by jimnuggits

I'm suggesting that, just because you (or I) don't know specifically how a certain thing was done, it doesn't mean that it required something beyond human skills and tools.

An early explorer of the site:

As to how the stones of Tiahuanuco were cut, and with what kind of instruments, are questions which I do not propose to discuss. I may, nevertheless, observe that I have no reason to believe that the builders of Tiahuanuco had instruments differing essentially in form or material from those used by the Peruvians generally, which, it is certain, were of champi, a kind of bronze.

www.world-mysteries.com...

Yes, the Inca, like the Romans, had bronze.

Inca bronze included not only such tools as axes, knives, chisels, and crow-bars but also such domestic utensils as tweezers, shawl=pins, and large bracelets, spangles and bells. They even made ear spoons, the ends of whose handles were often decorated with figures of humming birds.

incas.homestead.com...

Originally posted by sirjunlegun

Water, when it freezes, expands. So you fill the slots & holes with water, leave them overnight to freeze & expand and in the morning have a chunk of stone easily cleaved off.

Water contracts when it freezes, it expands when heated. Nothing I know of contracts when heated or expands when cooling.

I hópe You were being sarcastic..

I guess it's already pointed-out, but try this:

Fill a gass bottle to the top with water, close it, dump it in the freezer, see what happens..whaddaya know. The bottle bursts, sooooo water DOES expand when freezing. Sorry Sir, time to brush-up on simple, basic physics.