Santorum jumps the shark. Pledges to make porn illegal

First, do a google search on something like "why do so many porn stars commit suicide". The evidence is plain for anyone who looks that porn is harmful to the performers.
Porn is prostitution. People are paid to have sex. Since 18 is the legal age of porn acting, we in the US have legalized prostitution of 18 year old boys and girls. As long as the voyeurs get to watch it and jack off, that makes it ok.

If they're going to spend millions of dollars incarcerating porn sellers/buyers then why don't they take that millions of dollars and put it into education? Sorry, this is just how I think about it. Can't help it.

I guess if I thought of sexual thoughts as evil I would find it a lot easier to blame people. But to me sex is just another aspect of this world. There's a lot of things about this world that're not praise worthy.

I think indulgence is a symptom of failure more than a sign of evil.

We have to make people stronger so there're less people that miss the train.

You make people stronger by teaching them life skills and nourishing their self-respect. I think some people cannot be taught, but most can. And that's where I am different from some people.

See, I think most people do the right thing if you give them a good start.

I don't think people are evil at heart, but I do think they're ignorant. BUT most are teachable.

reply to post by Annee


See, you have the Statist view of John Dewey that government is here for the purpose of shaping our children in the model the State desires. You even admit it right here on this thread. The American form of government was not devised as a means to shape children's lives through a Statist program of social engineering. That all came out of the John Dewey/Humanist/Marxist point of view.

Originally posted by jonnywhite
If they're going to spend millions of dollars incarcerating porn sellers/buyers then why don't they take that millions of dollars and put it into education? Sorry, this is just how I think about it. Can't help it.

To be fair, we have already pumped more money into education than most other countries, but the social engineers have been messing around with the values and mores by interfering with the parental authority via values clarification methods. Throwing more money into it is not going to change anything.

Also you should know that even John Dewey, a humanist, said that humanism is a religion and this is the basis for what is taught in schools today.

The question we ask is important. For humanism is the world view of our educational leaders, of the textbooks they write, of the psychologists who counsel our youngsters on values, sex, and death. In short, it is the world view of the curricula used in the public schools. In fact, humanism forms the philosophical basis of what passes for teacher education in our state colleges and universities.
Thus, if humanism is indeed a religion, then what we have in our public schools and state colleges and universities are government-supported establishments of religion, which are patently unconstitutional and therefore illegal.

In fact, it should be pointed out that on March 4, 1987, U.S. District Judge W. Brevard Hand, in Smith v. Board of School Commissioners of Mobile County, Ala., ruled that secular humanism is a religion. The 172-page ruling defines religion and concludes, after reviewing the relevant aspects of humanism, that “For purposes of the First Amendment, secular humanism is a religious belief system, entitled to the protections of, and subject to the prohibitions of, the religious clauses.”

thenewamerican.com...

Originally posted by Thaxter
If you will watch the video link, it gives a succinct overview of the problems men are facing as a result of their addiction to the internet, particularly with regard to their ability to engage in meaningful heterosexual romantic relationships.

Sorry -- on my way out to meet hubby for dinner.

Don't mean to be short and abrupt.

There are also studies of inability to socialize by those who live in their rooms on their computer.

Personally - - I'd say its more then just the porn.

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Well I think throwing money at porn sellers/buyers won't be any better.

I read more and more about cops at schools.

WTH is going on? I didn't grow up with cops roaming the halls.

reply to post by SaturnFX

"It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."

I'm a little late on the thread, but I just had to comment on the above statement. Which must be true, because we all no there was no prostitution and sex trafficking in biblical times, until they came out with those evil porns videos everyone watched on there...

...oh wait.

People love to bitch about public schools today and how they're going down hill.

I was in public school in the 50s. It was exactly the same as today - - only today the classes might be smaller.

We had up to 36 kids in class - no assistant teachers. Focus was on the middle intelligence level -- we did not have GATE or special programs for the slower kids. They did have levels for reading groups - - but not math.

Thinking was discouraged - - - it was read memorize take a test. If you had a report assignment - - and turned it in - - you usually got a good grade just for turning it in.

There was no discussion of social diversity. There was no protection from bullies.

Parents need to take responsibility for their kids education.

Originally posted by jonnywhite
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Well I think throwing money at porn sellers/buyers won't be any better.

I read more and more about cops at schools.

WTH is going on? I didn't grow up with cops roaming the halls.

edit on 17-3-2012 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)

I quite agree. The cops roaming the schools started when the school shootings started, and to control the aggressive crime and bad behavior. The do whatever you want anytime anywhere syndrome started in the 60's and we see the effects of the liberal environment. No one is taught discipline or good moral character, or the values of the parents are aggressively diluted through values clarification and social programming. They thought it would all teach the kids to be good little socially correct automatons functioning perfectly in their Utopian ideal but it isn't working out that way.

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Parents need to take responsibility for their kids education.

Annee you are at once advocating Statist public education and suggesting it's the parents responsibility to teach kids. These two ideas are ambivalent to say the very least. The State continually undermines parental authority, and then we wonder why the parents cannot do anything about their own children. You also claim at the same time that parents are "hiding" information from their kids. I think what you must really want is for all parents to see things as you do and then do accordingly.

You also have claimed that public education is the same yesterday as it is today with no social discussions and no protection from bullying. Are you really going to sit there and say that there is no social engineering going on? I don't believe you at all. I think you know that is not true, it's just not happening fast enough for you, as you and I both know that public schools are actively teaching kids that certain things are acceptable and good in the eyes of the State.

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Education should be provided by the educators. Morality should be taught by the parents.

Originally posted by intrepid
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Education should be provided by the educators. Morality should be taught by the parents.

Yes, thank you very much. I quite agree.

reply to post by SaturnFX


He won't do it, he won't be allowed too the porn industry serves too many agendas, he is just trying to get the grass roots christian conservative vote onboard.
blow hard retard, nothing more same as the next politician pulled from the wardrobe wearing a Dust cover over the suit to keep him nice and fresh for when it is needed.

I think there is a button under the hair of all politicians, like an on and off switch, except it says half retard-Full retard. Guess what?.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by jonnywhite
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Well I think throwing money at porn sellers/buyers won't be any better.

I read more and more about cops at schools.

WTH is going on? I didn't grow up with cops roaming the halls.

edit on 17-3-2012 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)

I quite agree. The cops roaming the schools started when the school shootings started,

See, this is where we have completely left the reality train
The first school shooting started july of 1764, and has been a staplemark of american culture ever since.

Here, check this list out
Bang bang

Crime at school started in the 60s.
What an absurd notion.

No, Television started becoming popular in the 60s and the average household had one
Becoming aware of something does not mean it suddenly was invented..it just means you became aware of it...and reaction happens.
What happens when you think your in this perfect little bubble of peace, then you go home and see all over the place (place meaning nation) bad things happen...you flip out and think it happened in your bubble..and so demand the state do something to stop this madness...

You can blame overreactionary parents and hyper media that bases its ratings on freaking out people for what we have today.
Perspective is completely gone..hense why parents think rapists are hiding in every bush, every school is loaded with kids packing heat, and gay people are bashing down your door to turn you gay.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Incidently, what exactly are you against in regards to secular humanism?

Which part offends you?

reply to post by SaturnFX
Well, it all comes down to one question now doesn't it? Is Rick a guy you want to dictate what goes on in other people's pants/minds/bedrooms?

I kinda wish he as running up here so I could really have a field day.

Originally posted by Matt1951
First, do a google search on something like "why do so many porn stars commit suicide". The evidence is plain for anyone who looks that porn is harmful to the performers.
Porn is prostitution. People are paid to have sex. Since 18 is the legal age of porn acting, we in the US have legalized prostitution of 18 year old boys and girls. As long as the voyeurs get to watch it and jack off, that makes it ok.

If it's harmful to the performers then they should stop doing it, 18 year olds are adults, if they want to be follow a profession in porn that's their choice, if they find out afterwards they don't like it then they should stop doing it. As far as suicides, the number of porn stars that commit suicide is no larger than most jobs.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
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Well, it all comes down to one question now doesn't it? Is Rick a guy you want to dictate what goes on in other people's pants/minds/bedrooms?

I kinda wish he as running up here so I could really have a field day.

Conversely could you imagine Trudeau in the States?

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I have to admit, I am not aware of the shooting you mentioned in 1764. But alas, must you be black and white about this? I should have stipulated that I meant when lots of school shootings started over a shorter period of time. I also was suggesting that the mores of the 60's caused a rent in the morality of the general populace. I specifically meant the hippie free-love revolution and so on. You know "Love The One You're With" and what not(which song I actually liked then too), and with it came a drugged out generation of people who roamed around looking for a non-plastic society with less responsibility. You simply cannot deny this came when programs on tv sported all kinds of drugs and such. People want to deny the plausibility of the entertainment media in shaping morality, but we see the effects. I am not saying there are no other factors. Things are just never that simple. We have had wars and sexual deviation since before the birth of Christ certainly, as we know from the Roman Empire.

I just checked out that list of shootings. I will be honest I did not know of so many shootings. I have been more aware of the high profile shootings politicized lately.
But you really should know that the politicization of school shootings is a liberal strategy to disarm the populace and excuse for gun control. That being said, the parents may have had some effect but I doubt it was parents demanding police protection and airport like security screening along with 12 foot high chain link fencing around the perimeter making the schools feel more like prisons than an educational center.

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WELL THERE WASNT NO CHANCE THIS PUTZ WAS GOING TO WIN ANYWAY. while he is at it why doesnt he say i willl make sure rich pay non takes and if you get caught with a joint it will get you a life sentence.