Get Your Popcorn Ready! New Movie Exposes the Radicals Behind OWS!

Originally posted by rival
I doesn't matter what this movie has to offer...

The OWS was a planned for, staged, and executed test-run for TPTB. This was not any grassroots
protest movement. It was a field test-run and all you people who participated were duped. Your
heart was in the right place--your intentions were justified...but you were led by the nose down the
path of protest by those who seek to control you.

The OWS was and is a propaganda operation. The goals are gauging public reaction, over-all
turn-out, police response, citizen resistance...and (just in case of serious rioting) would have been
a chance for them to roll out and test cutting edge technologies in crowd control weaponry--like the
Microwave Gun.

This is more or less my opinion, except I think there's also governmental collusion with the socialist orgs who've been acting as OWS' puppet masters, as well. Occupiers cry bucketloads when you suggest this scenario to them, however.

"We're not Communist! We're really, REALLY grass roots! We have no idea who George Soros is! We've never been contacted by him before! Anonymous aren't evil; they're just intelligent young people who enjoy using the Internet, and thought V for Vendetta was cool! ACORN? Who's that? We've never heard of them. Don't mind the Socialist Alliance; they're just friends of ours."

Want proof and pictures? I don't have any. The day of 9/11 I knew in my gut that what was
happening was BS.

I think you were rescued there by Captain Obvious. 9/11 was a blatant false flag to anyone with either an IQ of above 50, or who isn't comatose.

When Obama suddenly came "out of nowhere" I knew it was BS.

You lie. Obama's campaign began on his front porch. He told us so himself.

Originally posted by decepticonLaura
reply to post by truthrising2012

 

oh geeze, did you really just pull the Soros card?
it's like i'm invisible!
i'll say it once more;
george soros did not tell me what to do or what to stand for!
barack obama did not tell me what to do or what to stand for!
darth freaking vader did not tell me

do you not see that the world is messed up?
we need to forget petty differences and work together
or we're all doomed
so stop blaming irrelevant parties for things of less relevance
and help

Most of us agree that the country is messed up.

Most of us agree that corporatism (crony capitalism) and corruption within our government is to blame.

Most of us agree the federal reserve act needs to be repealed or at least revised.

Most of us agree that we need to get the money out of DC so special interest groups can't control the direction of our country.

The disagreement is typically in the solution. How is allowing the biggest special interest group in the country, the SEIU be part of OWS help? The SEIU does nothing but funnel tax dollars into the democrat party. Let me ask you (and any OWS’er) this:

1)Do you think most of the groups and people I’ve listed who support OWS have the answers to these problems we face?

2)Do you think that MAYBE OWS is being cast in a bad light BECAUSE of its association with groups like Communist Party USA, American NAZI Party, Nation of Islam, SEIU, Socialist Party USA, MoveOn, ACORN, Soros et al? After all, these groups have been around a lot longer than OWS and have never gotten any traction because people DO NOT TRUST THEM or LIKE THEIR INTENTIONS.

3)Could it be that these groups are merely using OWS as a vehicle to overthrow or destroy the current capitalist, constitutional republic system and will then cast you aside like fools afterward?

4)Could it be that this movie (obviously a right wing biased piece) is what some of you OWS’ers need?

I think you all need to see how the opposition views you. I think you all need to see that your movement has been completely owned by the left. I think you all need a damn reality check. OWS will accomplish nothing but chaos in its current form. Last time I checked, chaos was not the means of ridding the country of government corruption and corporatism.

I agree with one of the previous posters that OWS needs to regroup, get a new name, part ways with the freaks that have overrun your movement, find some LEADERSHIP and A CLEAR MESSAGE and RESET!

OWS started with the right intentions; it’s now a complete joke. Those of you who downplay the connections I've pointed out, or their obvious drag on your movement, are going to ride this sinking ship to the depths of the ocean.

reply to post by seabag


C'mon...it's either a joke or a threat it can't be both so which slander are you going to choose? You're better versed in the threat propaganda so I would stick with that personally. By the way have you done anything more than shake your head at the NDAA or HR347? Spoken against the Constitutional violations that have popped up all over the place not just Occupy? By speaking against, I mean done more than post on ATS. Or because it's only being talked about in terms of "fixing the occupy problem" are you too busy getting your jollies?

I cant wait for this movie... I saw something on it last night.... I think it was the internet, bahh I cant remember

but it looks better than Chronicle!

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by seabag

 

C'mon...it's either a joke or a threat it can't be both so which slander are you going to choose? You're better versed in the threat propaganda so I would stick with that personally. By the way have you done anything more than shake your head at the NDAA or HR347? Spoken against the Constitutional violations that have popped up all over the place not just Occupy? By speaking against, I mean done more than post on ATS. Or because it's only being talked about in terms of "fixing the occupy problem" are you too busy getting your jollies?

It’s a joke in that all of the well-intentioned people who still think it’s going well and having a positive affect are silly.

It’s a threat because collectively these groups are a dangerous mix and can cause civil unrest, loss of life and property damage….and they’re crazy enough to do so.

With regard to your question, YES, I've done more on the issues than just post on ATS. Holding a sign at an OWS protest isn't exactly accomplishing anything, is it?

Talk about arguing in circles, Kali!

Anyway, I asked:

1)Do you think most of the groups and people I’ve listed who support OWS have the answers to these problems we face?

2)Do you think that MAYBE OWS is being cast in a bad light BECAUSE of its association with groups like Communist Party USA, American NAZI Party, Nation of Islam, SEIU, Socialist Party USA, MoveOn, ACORN, Soros et al? After all, these groups have been around a lot longer than OWS and have never gotten any traction because people DO NOT TRUST THEM or LIKE THEIR INTENTIONS.

3)Could it be that these groups are merely using OWS as a vehicle to overthrow or destroy the current capitalist, constitutional republic system and will then cast you aside like fools afterward?

4)Could it be that this movie (obviously a right wing biased piece) is what some of you OWS’ers need?

Would you like to tackle these questions? Maybe it will make more sense to those of us who don’t currently agree with OWS.

reply to post by seabag


I think most of those organizations or links to such are boogeymen meant to scare you. I think Occupy is being cast a negative light on because it scares the crap out of the status quo. Yes when lots of people hold signs people start to ask questions, it's highly effective.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by seabag

 

I think most of those organizations or links to such are boogeymen meant to scare you. I think Occupy is being cast a negative light on because it scares the crap out of the status quo. Yes when lots of people hold signs people start to ask questions, it's highly effective.

It's a threat to the wholly owned corporate subsidiary of the US...the GOP...the "corporations are people" crowd

So not surprising to see clown "think tanks" like Citizens United (more like "corporations united") shake in their boots coming out with ridiculous movies like the one linked here

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by seabag

 

I think most of those organizations or links to such are boogeymen meant to scare you. I think Occupy is being cast a negative light on because it scares the crap out of the status quo. Yes when lots of people hold signs people start to ask questions, it's highly effective.

What a complete copout!!

You’re going to say that these organizations are merely “boogeymen” meant to distract us from the positive message of OWS??

You’ve lost your credibility if you choose to stick with that!

This video clearly shows members of the largest lobbyist in the country actively teaching and leading protesters!

No “boogeymen”….REAL MEN! You guys are sad!

reply to post by seabag


Teaching employees how to stand up for their rights...what a crime!!!

reply to post by seabag


Says the man regurgitating FOX and Breitbart. You have heard of Rupert Murdoch haven't you...the guy who owns FOX?

I'm perfectly okay if someone with your lack of discernment deems me non credible.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
What's funny is that the people that oppose Occupy are too stupid to see how to make it work for them.

I don't support some of the aspects, but rather than sitting online complaining and looking like an idiot doing nothing. I went down joined in and talked to people. That is why I defend Occupy, because the majority of them aren't like the one in NY. They are opposed to both government and corporate corruption. A lot of them supported RP and even some of the decent Tea Party ideas (not that joke glen beck sarah palin party).

SO Seabag instead of being a complete tool for the fascist right, why not get yourself down to an Occupy and make a difference.

(Well, don't because your proposed plan of "everyone go home and watch this million dollar propaganda piece" isn't what we need. I invite everyone else though.)

I went to join in as well, once I got to know who the main players were within our community than i'd find out that the main speakers were part of left wing organizations in which they didn't disclose to rest of us in the first place. Once I did more digging I realized that their foundation had been funded by the Tides Foundation - The very same foundation that has been funded by George Soros.

So the next you go down to your occupy movement, try and do some digging and get to know the main speakers. I wouldn't be surprised if they too were involved by some left wing organization as well.

The funny thing was, once I called them out on their association, both of those speakers had completely disappeared for some "odd" reason.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by seabag

 

Says the man regurgitating FOX and Breitbart. You have heard of Rupert Murdoch haven't you...the guy who owns FOX?

I'm perfectly okay if someone with your lack of discernment deems me non credible.

The movement supposedly against cronyism and lobbying is taking orders and help from the biggest lobbying group in the country and you have no answer other than attacking my sources!

Dodge it all you want but people are waking up to the facts!

That, I believe, is the type of thing this movie will expose, and that story needs to be told regardless who tells it!

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by seabag

 

Says the man regurgitating FOX and Breitbart. You have heard of Rupert Murdoch haven't you...the guy who owns FOX?

The questions about ACORN are legitimate, Kali; and they need answers. That is why I want to watch this film; because I want those answers.

reply to post by petrus4


Those questions have all been answered, months ago...ACORN, Tides, Soros. We've been running around these circles for months. The answers are denied. If you want answers do the research. This movie, will be more of the same...absolute cherry picking and refusal to look at the other side.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by seabag

 

Teaching employees how to stand up for their rights...what a crime!!!

Wow!
job posted: clean toilets $8.00hr 32.5hrs a week. 8am -3:30pm Mon.- Fri.
Down Time is Cleanup Time
No Benefits
No Raises
No Time off
dont be late.
Im the boss, its my rules.
Dont want the job, ok, there are 2,000 people waiting for you to quit.
Employees have a right to a paycheck at the wage they agreed to. And not to be harassed.

Lee Iacocca is just an example of a man you think was over paid and taking a spoon out of your mouth.
You want to Be Lee Iacocca start by walking in his shoes from the very start.
Lee Iacocca

Iacocca was born in Allentown, Pennsylvania to Nicola Iacocca and Antonietta Perrotta, Italian immigrants (from San Marco dei Cavoti, Benevento) who had settled in Pennsylvania's steel-making belt. They operated a restaurant, Yocco's Hot Dogs. He was said to have been christened with the unusual name "Lido" because he was conceived during his parents' honeymoon in the Lido district in Venice, however, he refutes this rumor in his autobiography, saying that is romantic but not true: his father went to Lido long before his marriage and was traveling with his future wife's brother).[3] Iacocca graduated from Allentown High School (now known as William Allen High School) in 1942, and Lehigh University in neighboring Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, with a degree in industrial engineering. He is a member of Tau Beta Pi, the engineering honor society, and an alumnus of Theta Chi Fraternity. After graduating from Lehigh, he won the Wallace Memorial Fellowship and went to Princeton University, where he took his electives in politics and plastics. He then began a career at the Ford Motor Company as an engineer. Eventually dissatisfied with that job, he switched career paths at Ford, entering the company's sales force. He was very successful in sales, and he moved up through the ranks of Ford, moving ultimately to product development.

You want success Be success. Work hard and smart, dont take no for an answer. You want your government to dictate how much you make, where you think it is fair, go to a Communist Society.The Soviet Union comes to mind. But that kinda fell apart though didn't it. I have my doubts you would be happier since people are dying to get into America for what a hundred plus years now?

P.S. did they have student loans back then?

Originally posted by Kali74
If you want answers do the research.

I've been doing some. I'm disturbed by what I have been finding.

Lot's of GREAT points made in this thread, fiesty, and important conversation. When I first joined into this discussion I felt pretty strongly that OWS is an important movement that I supported, Overall I still do in spirt, but I'd like to offer some ideas , lol, some our lofty, but bare with me.

1. CHANGE relationship with "military trained" police, this whole riot gear, aggressive "dynamic" is a BIG problem to PEACEFUL protest. OK, how the hell do we do this? Well, incourage LOT"S of "hometown" unity, 1000's of events across the country that the POLICE/ MILITARY are involved in a positive way as "Individuals" and to discuss ( bring muffins ) "prior" to event with "head chief" on rules of conduct by all concerned, and call me an optimist, but I REALLY think that people involved in peaceful protest will keep each other in check, especially if the police are fair, respectful and not approaching the people armed for "war".

Over holidays decorated a tree for a charity auction, turns out our tree was right next to the "cops" tree, lol, for the most part I stay clear of police, have formed an opinion "their all bullies", but it was interesting to see all these guys with thier families, out of uniform, lol, they seemed "normal"

2. NO "WEARING COLORS" of ANY group ! Man, this is a hard one, cause how do we "define" this? As much as this requires a "collective" effort, in my opinion any "group" agenda, with alterior motives, has NO place here. BUT as American's where do you draw the line? That whole freedom of speech is "tricky"

3. Figure out what ever part your meant to make and do your best. Make sure everyone you love, feels loved , kiss them alot ♥

Originally posted by MountainLaurel
1. CHANGE relationship with "military trained" police, this whole riot gear, aggressive "dynamic" is a BIG problem to PEACEFUL protest. OK, how the hell do we do this? Well, incourage LOT"S of "hometown" unity, 1000's of events across the country that the POLICE/ MILITARY are involved in a positive way as "Individuals"

This is a very important idea in principle, but it's hard to do in practice. There are two major obstacles, that I can see. We might be able to get around them, though.

a] I don't know whether this is true entirely, but I had read that police recruits are now being actively screened for psychopathic behaviour and aggression; but by that I mean that they're turning down individuals who do not exhibit those characteristics. This isn't to suggest that all police are psychopaths; I'm not suggesting that at all. I do remember, however, David Icke in particular saying, that there is a cultural trend within the police, to view thuggishness and brutality as desirable characteristics, within individual officers.

b] Police superiors have actually started viewing police being members of a given local community, as a BAD thing, because they think it interferes with impartiality, creates bias in favour of certain individuals who the police might have to deal with, and is therefore detrimental to enforcement. So more commonly, foreign (or out of state) police will be assigned to a given area, and they are possibly rotated as well, in order to avoid communal ties forming.

I will also say, however, that I am currently studying this site, and that the individuals who wrote it, seem to have a much greater degree of ability for turning potentially negative situations into positive ones, than I do. So it's very possible that they would know something I don't, as well as being able to apply strategies that I don't know about, in order to deal with the above two issues in some way.

and to discuss ( bring muffins ) "prior" to event with "head chief" on rules of conduct by all concerned, and call me an optimist, but I REALLY think that people involved in peaceful protest will keep each other in check, especially if the police are fair, respectful and not approaching the people armed for "war".

It really depends on where the local managerial psychopath is. There will be one, guaranteed; I've become convinced that the very concept of management was specifically developed by and for psychopaths. Your capacity for generating a positive outcome however, depends on their position in the hierarchy. If they aren't in a position of major influence, they can be routed around. Unfortunately, in the case of Zucotti Park, the primary psychopath concerned was the mayor, so that situation was really doomed from the beginning. They were able to do some good work before the hammer finally came down, though.

Over holidays decorated a tree for a charity auction, turns out our tree was right next to the "cops" tree, lol, for the most part I stay clear of police, have formed an opinion "their all bullies", but it was interesting to see all these guys with thier families, out of uniform, lol, they seemed "normal"

I do not believe that all police are bad, at all. I do, however, perceive an extreme risk; because the problem is that you do not know whether the individual officer in front of you is bad or not. He may very well not be; but then again, he might be. So I do consider avoidance the safest strategy for the most part, but I try not to be excessively hostile towards them emotionally, as well.

I view the police in more or less the same way as I view sharks, or any other dangerous animal. Even though for the most part it isn't safe to be around them, it's still important to recognise that they have a valid ecological role to play; and part of the reason why they'll potentially hurt you if you go near them, is actually because that's their job. So it is nothing personal. That is just who they are, and what they do. Police don't get trained in things like Krav Maga because their intended role is to sit with civilians around a campfire and sing kumbaya. Compassion isn't what they get paid for.

I wouldn't swim up to a white pointer shark and pat it on the nose; and I'm not inclined to try and socialise with police officers, for exactly the same reason. I might get mauled, or eaten.

2. NO "WEARING COLORS" of ANY group !

Well, in any Leftist organisation, the collective is always believed to be more important than the individual. That is a given, Comrade.

3.Make sure everyone you love, feels loved , kiss them alot ♥

This is the part that I admit I do love. The Utopian element.

reply to post by petrus4


Great feedback, lol, thanks!

LMAO, that video is very funny! lot's to do today needed a laugh!

reply to post by truthrising2012


Nope.. Not necessary. I was in the main meetings for the local one here and personally knew the person that organized it and was there in the meeting when they were interviewed for the paper. Actually one left leaning Obama fanatic tried to infiltrate the group and take charge and he was immediately pushed out. He stopped showing up (shows how much the liberals care if it's not pushing their agenda). We actually had a lot of Paul supporters and people of all ages, then from the other side of the spectrum we had unions stopping and bringing us breakfast.

Like I said, only a few of the protests in big cities actually had those types of organizations you mentioned behind them. Even then I ask this. What does it matter who organized it if the message is a good one.
They can try to put it together, but people have free will and they have taken it away from any of those people. Just like our protest, most of the ones in smaller cities have no connections to any groups or any money whatsoever. They just took the idea for steam and preached a better philosophy. That is what people like SeaBag don't seem to understand.