Incompetent People Too Ignorant to Know It

In other words stupid people are too stupid to know how stupid they actually are.

reply to post by wantsome


Not even really in 'other words':

From the OP:

To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it.

Not even the article the OP linked, but the actual OP. A little OT (sort of) but it really bugs me when people don't even read the first post before replying. Sure, I don't expect everyone to read the entire thread, some of them run 20+ pages and more, but at least read the OP!

Originally posted by Thought Provoker
reply to post by TKDRL

 

I must admit to being entirely ignorant about sports. But I don't care that I am. Sports have several purposes:

1. Making the various owners of various teams and some of the players ridiculously wealthy by convincing us to transfer our wealth to them.
   
2. Dividing us even further along entirely-imaginary boundaries (like making Longhorns hate Aggies).
   
3. Wasting our time.
   
4. Inculcating the idea of "Win at all costs!" into people. You must crush anyone who disagrees with you; compromise is for wimps.

The more we hate each other, the easier we are to control as a society. That's why sports - the idea of how important competing and winning are, rather - are beaten into kids' heads as early as possible. And if you suck at sports, everyone makes you feel inadequate, incompetent, and idiotic (sound familiar?). Organized sports are no less a control mechanism than organized religion, and no less destructive. They further enslave us all. Just boycott 'em. Your kids will be much better off. I mean, think about it, and be honest with yourself: what do you get out of watching a football game? Really?

edit on 2/28/2012 by Thought Provoker because: Me?? A misspelling?? I'm only having half a pot of coffee tomorrow.

It's quite an old tradition, these sports. Some might even call it part of our history and culture, something human even. While I can agree with you I don't think the problem lies in sports, I think it lies in people and ethics. Some people have a competitive drive just as strong as a sex drive, if it isn't released get ready for some civil unrest. I suppose this could be good or bad depending on the society and its government.

But yea there is some kind of big corporate/federal conspiracy to keep people arguing with each other and believe they are stupid. I would say you hit the nail on the head, I just don't think it originally started as such, I think it became that through manipulation.

Didn't mean to get off topic, the stuff Thought Provoker talks about is well... thought provoking.

Heres the other side of the coin... We must all be incompetent and don't know it. Why? Because somehow all these incompetent idiots are in charge and we are subject to the whims of their incompetence while we suffer for it. So how did all these idiots get in charge if their all incompetent and we are superior in intelligence?

I tell myself the majority of people are incompetent and that's why we cannot overcome their idiocy as there is not enough people intelligent enough to stand up and get rid of them. But I have to wonder cause we are still the ones suffering for their incompetence while most of them lead charmed lives at our expense.

What usually happens is the "Peter Principle". These people were competent - sometimes even very competent - at lower level or different jobs, but they did so well at that they got promoted ... until finally they ended up above their level of competency. They are now at levels where they are no longer winning prizes, maybe just barely keeping their chins above water, maybe not even that good, but they did so well at simpler stuff that they - and their employers - thought they could manage this tougher position.

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Do you realize you both looked for a psychiatry guy, right? Psychiatry is a medical doctor... Psychologist is another profession (they can't prescribe any drugs)

Brings to my mind a favorite quote:

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell

Originally posted by Maxmars

news.yahoo.com...

A growing body of psychology research shows that incompetence deprives people of the ability to recognize their own incompetence. To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it. Similarly, unfunny people don't have a good enough sense of humor to tell.

This disconnect may be responsible for many of society's problems.

(visit the link for the full news article)


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Yes. I have worked with many of these people before.

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Thank you, that made me laugh. That does seem like something common sense would dictate. It's even funnier that were just now figuring this out.

Well, there's nothing wrong with being great. This guy is a negative Nancy and is probably underestimating what a snob he is being by making such claims. This aside, of course stupid people are too stupid to know that they are stupid; hence the term, "stupid people." There is also nothing wrong with being stupid and not realizing it because ignorance is bliss; if a blissful idiot were to suddenly find out that he or she was an idiot, he/she would be sad, and thus whoever lead the idiot to realizing he/she is an idiot has done the world a great wrong.

Originally posted by Shoonra
What usually happens is the "Peter Principle". These people were competent - sometimes even very competent - at lower level or different jobs, but they did so well at that they got promoted ... until finally they ended up above their level of competency. They are now at levels where they are no longer winning prizes, maybe just barely keeping their chins above water, maybe not even that good, but they did so well at simpler stuff that they - and their employers - thought they could manage this tougher position.

Yeah I hear you and agree, however I am more talking about the politicians and banksters and those that influence society those most call the leaders of society. We all know congress doesn't have a clue about economics (which has become abundantly clear even to the dumb now days) and most other things they are in charge of so how the hell did we let them get in charge and better yet remain in charge for decades?

And we needed research on this subject why, again?

Who engages in introspection and deep, self reflection nowadays? These things are important for self-improvement, and it is my humble, yet likely incorrect opinion, that very few human beings engage in them anymore.

Hey, Cataclysm - I busted up laughing when I saw that Graph.

I think it proves --- "We don't know what we don't know"

YOU SAID ..."Have you noticed that people who think they know everything tend to do more talking than listening?

Well, I'm not quite sure I'd agree with that comment ... I have a teenager who knows everything. She hardly talks, just listens. She's an honor student and has been accepted to a good school. Most of her sentences are limited to three words. So, I do most of the talking and she shrugs her shoulders (I think that means "I'm not sure") and then she does the eye-roll (I think that means she disagrees).

Just the other day, I told her ..."It must be so nice to know everything". In her sweet, innocent voice, but serious tone, she said, "Yeah, it is".

I almost thought this thread was titled "Impotent People Too Ignorant to Know it"

reply to post by Maxmars


Seems like a bunch of bull# some guy(s) hypothesized and then packaged up nicely, even with a bow and glitter, to get it to seem logical, or proven.

Then again, that's about everything these days.




I mean, #e I have to say something smart now or else im not denying ignorance like im told, and therefore am one of the ignorant non-knowing idiots.

Guess what, Ill say it, ill say it right now:

I, AM A #ING MORON


Yessss, feed off of my stupidity!

Yes, negatively reinforcing loops exist.

Positively reinforcing ones do too, however. I don't really consider this story to be anything other than pointless negativity, to be honest.

I've been trying to explain this concept to as many people as I possibly can, nobody seems to get it. They then proceed to tell me how the devil put dinosaur bones on the Earth and that they sky is blue because there's some oasis above the clouds...

reply to post by Maxmars

To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it.

lol... and these scientists are lacking so much practical common sense they can't even see how freaking obvious that is so they do a research paper on it...

Conspiracy theorists who agree on the nwo as a structured global cabal which controls politicians yet go ga-ga when the latest puppet (aka messiah) spouts the tired bs they want to hear. Lmao talk all year about corrupt officials then run to the ballot box wishing their vote had any worth. Are these types either fearful cowards unwilling to see the governmental corruption that effectively enslaves them or lobotomized imbeciles that should be banned from reproducing?

reply to post by Maxmars


This article cracked me up, even though I did take it seriously.

But really? They're just finding this out now? When many of us have seen this in person. A exaggerated sense of importance.

An example: At a job I had recently acquired, a co-worker told me to drop the load we were carrying on our shoulders on…three.

At three, he threw the load, I dropped it. Like he said.

He looked at me and said, “You’re not too bright, are you?”

I looked at him and told him that he had specifiaclly said drop the load, which I did and that he threw it.

His reply was, "Whatever."

I was told this guy also drove a towmotor off a dock that didn’t have a truck in it at the time.

I’m just waiting for the moment to say, “You’re not too bright, are you?”

Good things come to those who wait.