'Iran ready to wipe Israel off the map'

The only true aggressive nation in this situation is and has been Israel since the moment the Zionist movement set foot on Palestine. They have deliberately lied and resorted to falsified accounts of history. But their lies are no longer.

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
Yes, lets send troops into Iran and start another bloody war. Who wants to volunteer to go first.... Xcat?

Sure.. I dont mind volunteering.

I mean someone has to pick up the slack created by people with no backbone. Right now the starch in their shirts are the only thing allowing them to walk upright.

Even funnier I see people constantly posting the "they came for my neighbor, and I did nothing" argument. Or does that saying only apply to US actions?

Originally posted by dadgad
The only true aggressive nation in this situation is and has been Israel since the moment the Zionist movement set foot on Palestine. They have deliberately lied and resorted to falsified accounts of history. But their lies are no longer.

Ah yes.. more accusations with absolutely no sources to back your statement up.

Israel was not even a country for 5 minutes before the first truck bomb went off. Even more sad is the number of Arab countries who screwed over the Palestinians by refusing to allow a Palestinian state to be created. The reason is because they don't want Israel there, and have been doing their best to wipe the off the map.

Israel has been invaded / attacked by the bulk of the Arab countries. After the 6 day war Israel offered to return all captured territory in exchange for a peace treaty from Arab countries as well as the right to exist.

Arabs said no.

Arab countries have been the ones invading Israel, not Israel invading Arab countries.

Nice spin though.

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Originally posted by Ben81
Xcathdra .. why your thread doesnt surprise me
pure trolling

My response to you :
Israel ready to wipe Iran off the map

Yeah I saw that thread..

It gave me a good chuckle

how many time have we heard this from both sides? sure, war is ugly and should never happen but when two guy repeat the same threat to each other enough times, the people would eventually want to see it happen. i think now is that time.

personally im too much of a coward to be a soldier, but i like to watch.

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Here is the spin.

Iran supposedly says it's going to wipe Israel off the face of the map. Meanwhile Israel is preparing to wipe Iran off the face of the map.

Just like people, countries posture too. They have to intimidate others. One day Iran might be a threat, but that day is about ten years away and a lot can happen in ten years.

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I still wonder if Iran understands what the Samson option is.
Israel is believed to have between 75 and 200 thermonuclear weapons, each in the multiple-megaton range.

That is enough to turn every city in Iran to radioactive glowing glass.
Do the leaders of Iran want to turn there country into a country suicide bomber.
en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by ANNED
I still wonder if Iran understands what the Samson option is.
Israel is believed to have between 75 and 200 thermonuclear weapons, each in the multiple-megaton range.

That is enough to turn every city in Iran to radioactive glowing glass.
Do the leaders of Iran want to turn there country into a country suicide bomber.
en.wikipedia.org...

I still wonder if people in western countries will ever understand that Iran doesn't have and isn't developing nuclear weapons

U.S. Agencies See No Move by Iran to Build a Bomb

www.nytimes.com...

How DUMB must people be, when even the MSM and their own intelligence services confirm it?

Originally posted by ALF88
I still wonder if people in western countries will ever understand that Iran doesn't have and isn't developing nuclear weapons

Israel has a peaceful nuclear program as well.
Also, since you seem to fail at comprehending information, the concern on Ian is the ABILITY to produce a nuclear weapon. That is why the main issue is enrichment levels.

Originally posted by ALF88
How DUMB must people be, when even the MSM and their own intelligence services confirm it?

Just as dumb as the person who can't correctly understand the difference between production and ability.

As far as the liar comment goes - Ive been called worse by better.

its typical behavior from a person, you, who is failing miserably to to make your case because you cant support your claims, to resort to name calling.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Here is the spin.

Iran supposedly says it's going to wipe Israel off the face of the map. Meanwhile Israel is preparing to wipe Iran off the face of the map.

Just like people, countries posture too. They have to intimidate others. One day Iran might be a threat, but that day is about ten years away and a lot can happen in ten years.

Again no -
Show us were the Israeli government has stated they will wipe Iran off the map. We have Ahmadinejad, the Ayatollah and their Defense Minister stating they want Israel cut out / removed / wiped out.

Israels, as well as the west's position, position is air strikes on those facilities. Again bravo though for making misleading statements in an attempt to shift the focus.

As far as a threat - Iran's government has stated a few times now that the Israeli military poses no danger to them. If thats the case why all the rhetoric towards Israel? Why did the Ayatollah say Israel must be cut out and removed like a caner? Why did they defense minister state wipe Israel off the map?

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by ALF88
I still wonder if people in western countries will ever understand that Iran doesn't have and isn't developing nuclear weapons

Israel has a peaceful nuclear program as well.

BS. Israel cannot have a "peaceful" civilian nuclear program interlocked with a weapons program, while Iran isn't even allowed to develop a civilian nuclear program without the weapons part. Your argument doesn't make any logical sense in the least, at least in the eyes of people who don't automatically view Iran as a threat.

Israel was not even a country for 5 minutes before the first truck bomb went off.

Menachem Begin - 6th Prime Minister of Israel

In 1944–48 the Irgun engaged in armed resistance, attacking British installations and posts. These operations were financed by demanding money from Jewish merchants and engaging in insurance scams in the local diamond industry.

For several months in 1945–46, the Irgun’s activities were coordinated within the framework of the Hebrew Resistance Movement. Begin ordered the bombing of the British administrative and military headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, in 1946. The attack was conducted as part of a joint response to the British Operation Agatha, during which many Jews were arrested, weapons were seized and the Jewish Agency, from which many documents were removed, was raided. Irgun later claimed that warnings to evacuate had been sent but were ignored. 91 people, British, Arab and Jewish, were killed.

You're right. It was the Zionist terrorists with the truck bombs. Their efforts eventually lead to the formation of Israel. Imagine that, terrorism forming a sovereign country...

He also wrote the book on successful revolution established through violent means: The Revolt. Even IRA officers studied Begin's revolutionary tactics.

Islam has always yerned to take over the gloab, and today it is the easy for them, with the help of Usful idiots, in the form of extreme left wing groups, financed by NGO's wich are mostly under the evil wings of the fourth reich George Soros.

Originally posted by ATSRFACISTS
Islam has always yerned to take over the gloab, and today it is the easy for them, with the help of Usful idiots, in the form of extreme left wing groups, financed by NGO's wich are mostly under the evil wings of the fourth reich George Soros.

Nice name

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
BS. Israel cannot have a "peaceful" civilian nuclear program interlocked with a weapons program,

Feel free to link your source that shows Israel has nuclear weapons. Until you have definitive proof you are just speculating, as you and others accuse the west of doing for Iran.

Or are you applying a double standard because its Israel?

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
while Iran isn't even allowed to develop a civilian nuclear program without the weapons part.

That would be because they signed the NPT where as Israel did not. Iran can withdraw from the NPT any time they want.

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Your argument doesn't make any logical sense in the least, at least in the eyes of people who don't automatically view Iran as a threat.

Or those who automatically view Israel as a threat?

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
You're right. It was the Zionist terrorists with the truck bombs. Their efforts eventually lead to the formation of Israel. Imagine that, terrorism forming a sovereign country...

You are absolutely correct.. Immediately all ME countries will be dissolved and returned to the Ottoman Empire.

It worked for the US.... Since your comparing begin can I compare the 1979 Ayatollah? Ahmadinejad? Or are you taking an action from history that used the term Zionist in an effort to show its still present in Israel today?

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
He also wrote the book on successful revolution established through violent means: The Revolt.

Very few revolutions employ only peaceful tactics. However your accusations are funny being it completely ignores Hamas and Hezbullah. Are they not trying to make a sovereign nation out of there terrorism?

Why does Iran have to build a nuke?

With all of their resources, they can't get one off the black market?

Or buy one directly from Cheney?

The job of the mainstream media in the US is to demonize Ahmadinejad and Iran. Every time the man opens his mouth, the truth comes out about the Zionists and their American Whore. The Khazarian Satanists go back thousands of years and are responsible for all the evils in this world, and Ahmadinejad doesn't hesitate to say so at every opportunity. What he says about a future "just and humane society" absolutely contradicts how he is portrayed in the US media. So what really is the truth?

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
BS. Israel cannot have a "peaceful" civilian nuclear program interlocked with a weapons program,

Feel free to link your source that shows Israel has nuclear weapons. Until you have definitive proof you are just speculating, as you and others accuse the west of doing for Iran.

Or are you applying a double standard because its Israel?

You want me to provide to you evidence that Israel has nuclear weapons, before you'll admit that they do?

No thanks. The rest of the world, aside from you, already knows that Israel is a nuclear power. It's an established fact, one that even Israeli leaders admit to.

You'd have to be retarded to question this fact. This fact is literally in textbooks that label the nuclear powers of the world.

"Double standard"? You're trying to pull that phrase on me after somebody else on this thread had to teach you the meaning of it?

That would be because they signed the NPT where as Israel did not. Iran can withdraw from the NPT any time they want.

And again, you prove how rediculous your assertions are.

I mean, seriously, do you even realize what you just said? Let me reiterate it for you: you just made the claim that Israel has different morals to follow than Iran because Iran has ratified itself to a different set of rules. This in and of itself, is the meaning of "double standard"... not too mention how absurd it would be for Iran to leave the NNPT.

Or those who automatically view Israel as a threat?

And who would that be? I certainly hope you don't mean me. I don't think that the IDF would be able to make it past Iraq in their attack on Iran.

You are absolutely correct.. Immediately all ME countries will be dissolved and returned to the Ottoman Empire.

What does this have to do with anything? Ottoman Empire? So you're saying that Turkey has been conducting clandestine terrorism all along with the goal of re-instituting its empire? I don't get it.

It worked for the US.... Since your comparing begin can I compare the 1979 Ayatollah? Ahmadinejad? Or are you taking an action from history that used the term Zionist in an effort to show its still present in Israel today?

What worked for the US was revolution, separation into a de jure sovereignty. The establishment of Israel was based on Jewish refugees from WWII who carried out violence to steal territory from an already established people, all the while backed by world powers for various reasons.

Don't know what you mean by "comparing". I was just stating facts. You said Israel wasn't even established for five minutes and truck bombs were going off, and I said that it was Zionist truck bombs. Not sure what Ayatollah Khomenei or Ahmadinejad had to do with it.

And I use the term Zionist in describing the actual ideals of Zionism, as in the recreation of Zion... virtually the jewish empire.

Very few revolutions employ only peaceful tactics. However your accusations are funny being it completely ignores Hamas and Hezbullah. Are they not trying to make a sovereign nation out of there terrorism?

They aren't really accusations if they are based on facts, eh?

And I "ignored" Hamas and Hezballah because they had absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about. What do they have to do with the terrorism that formed Israel? Is it cordial to always compare Islamic terrorism with jewish terrorism, lest we expose the brutality of jewish terrorism all of its own?

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Doesn't Israel have a nuclear bomb?

Yes. Israel, however, is not a party to the NPT, so is not obliged to report to it. Neither are India or Pakistan, both of which have developed nuclear weapons. North Korea has left the treaty and has announced that it has acquired a nuclear weapons capacity.

On 18 September 2009, the IAEA called on Israel to join the NPT and open its nuclear facilities to inspection. The resolution said that the IAEA "expresses concern about the Israeli nuclear capabilities, and calls upon Israel to accede to the NPT and place all its nuclear facilities under comprehensive IAEA safeguards... "

Israel refuses to join the NPT or allow inspections. It is reckoned to have up to 400 warheads but refuses to confirm or deny this.
www.bbc.co.uk...

Now perhaps you would like to add a reputable link other than The daily Mail for your post?