'Iran ready to wipe Israel off the map'

How is this news?

He's always threatening Israel and Israel is always threatning back.

It's all bark and no bite.


It's a tired Middle Easton soap opera that is more predictable than a day time TV soap opera...


And this thread is just another way to beat the war drums...


Yes, lets send troops into Iran and start another bloody war. Who wants to volunteer to go first.... Xcat?

Originally posted by NightGypsy

Originally posted by bladerunner44

Originally posted by NightGypsy
Do we have any proof that Iran even has a nuke? I don't think so. And if they have one at all, wouldn't it be rather stupid to use that one bomb on Israel knowing there will be retaliation that will result in a gaping whole on the map where Iran used to be? A silly notion, really.

Either they are bluffing to put fear in Israel, or this is a bunch of propaganda....once again.

No spin is really necessary....lol

You and most of the other poster in this thread miss the point entirely. Iran is stalling for time to finish the work on a bomb. They are very close judging by the sabre rattling and they know the rest of the world leaders know this too; thus the brinkmanship gambit. They want nuclear capability to extend their influence over the Arab world, and to gain and solidify a hold on the the oil resources in the region. Money brings power, not bombs. Given Doohbama's reluctance to insure our self sufficiency in that regard, we will be be in deep stuff. Can you afford $8 dollars gas? Their ultimate goal is to reestablish an Islamic caliphate. Then...

The only thing you forgot to include in your post above is the evidence to support your claims about what Iran's true intentions are. Are you an official of Iran's government? Do you live in Iran? Are you the psychic, Sylvia Brown who has acquired these facts by reading the thoughts of those individual's operating within Iran's leadership?

What I would like you to answer for me is the question that I have posed time and time again in these threads, yet, somehow, none of you pro-Iran war people want to address it. Why would Iran be so stupid as to acquire one nuclear bomb only to drop it on Israel or the U.S. giving the obvious negative impact their country would experience in retaliation? Can you explain that? Their country would be evaporated. Do you understand this? Do you understand how all of this hype about Iran can only be viewed as "talk" on their part, given the reality of the situation?

Dolt, you missed it again I'll t-y-p-e v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y so you can follow. They don't want to use the bomb, that would be national suicide. Think North Korea!! they use the threat more effectively than the act. It is their ace in the hole and their aim for the Arab world to coalesce around their might. As for my sources, you need to read more deeply to grasp the strategy. Is it a fact, no, is it provable, yes as with all hidden agendas time will unfold the truth.

Originally posted by Azadok
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* * * but anyone that has read your Koran and reads that it is ok for you to lie if it is in the advancement of Allah can not be trusted in my book. I mean really what kind of holy book premotes (sic) lying and jihad as the only sure way to heaven . I am sorry but this is so wrong and let me add this their are Jews that say they are of our brother Judah but are in fact of the synagogue of Satan.
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The policy of lying to those who are not members of your religious group of society is not limited to Islam. The Israelis, or at least the Zionists, follow the same policy and tactic. Do a little research and you'll quickly find that this is ture.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
No need to spin. Iran is saying they will retaliate against aggression. Sounds like the exact same thing america, or any other nation, would do....

So the question becomes: why exactly are YOU spinning this, OP?

Exactly! They have no nukes and there is no evidence that they are planning to build any. They have the materials to build them only! Every nation wants to defend itself, and that's all Iran is doing as far as I can see.

Excellent.

Lets say there is a 100% chance of going to war with/over/involving Iran. We could attack them first, or they could attack Israel first, and hopefully destroy the Zionist regime, then we can attack them.

Either way we attack them. Lets hope they attack Israel first. Of course I'd prefer no wars, but sometimes lets be realists, live would be better if the Zionist regime was gone.


Edit: Also the real key would to have Israel stage a false flag attack, and get caught. Because unfortunately even if Iran attacks Israel unless they destroy all the Zionists they will just come back, and they will get support because the "evil Muslims" did it. However if the government were caught in an undeniable false flag attack, one that cost the lives of Israelis, then it could be a much more realistic game over, although not without it's over lesser problems

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
No need to spin. Iran is saying they will retaliate against aggression. Sounds like the exact same thing america, or any other nation, would do....

So the question becomes: why exactly are YOU spinning this, OP?

Well said, America is banking on the idea that some 60 years after USA creating Israel, most Americans would have forgotten that Israel is a puppet/pawn of US military to do its dirty deeds.

of course any country will retaliate if attacked, that is all Iran said and the title totally blows it out of proportion.

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What about they may want to get it only as a deterrent?

Peace out.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
'Iran ready to wipe Israel off the map'

Why, just simply why is Iran supposedly taking this suicidal position? Israel is to listen to this stuff and stand and wait?

reply to post by BiggerPicture


1st. The USA did not create Israel, that was done by England after WWII, read your history.
2nd The countries around Israel have tried before to wipe it out, and in all probability will try again, most likely with the same or similar result.

There's no way Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons. People are just blinded by hatred for Israel when they say it's okay for Iran to have nuclear weapons. They need to be stopped at all costs.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS!

They're fanatics who think it's there job to bring about the conditions to bring the Mahdi's return in order to turn the world to Islam.

Religious zealots of any stripe shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Whether it's Islam, Christianity, Buddhist or Hindu. If they're nuts and they believe it's their job to bring about the end of days, they shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

It's sad that some people have such a hatred for Israel they will turn a blind eye to these religious fanatics getting nuclear weapons.

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Dolt, you missed it again I'll t-y-p-e v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y so you can follow.

Good evening, Mr. A**hole. I GET the strategy that you, the "strategist extraordinaire," have put forth. However, I think it is YOU who is missing the point because, in the end, it does not matter WHAT the strategy is behind Iran's words. The issue here is that those words are being used by the propaganda machine to create one scenario and one scenario only here in the U.S., which is that Iran is about to launch an attack on Israel (or the U.S. depending on the day) and that the U.S. should launch a pre-emptive strike on them because the Military Industrial Complex is hungry for some more profit at the expense of human lives.

I'm glad you are able to dissect the minds of the Iranian leaders and offer up motives on their behalf, but all your efforts are an exercise in futility when the U.S. is itching for more war. In case you haven't noticed, our media isn't exactly known for reporting an alternative look at what these alleged threats from our "enemies" might mean. This is America....these days we bomb the sh*t out of people first and ask questions later.

Would it not save a bunch of time spent on useless bantering if all sides would just admit to having religious baggage. So in spite of having evidence or a lack thereof as " proof " for said arguments, they will always have a slanted argument towards their country of choice? But back on topic, I personally have no such religious affiliations but will say, I shall lift not a finger nor waste not 1 iota of my time to defend israel when the proverbial shtf. As I personally believe provoking responses or acts of perceived "aggressions" by using subversive tactics to bring about the means to and end and exclaiming " See, I told you they were dangerous " is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt at a self-fulfilling prophecy. Now if iran would just quit with the rhetoric and learn to play "poker" they might just have a chance.

Originally posted by jesiaha
What are they up to?...From the quote you posted it only seems like they are ready to defend themself given the ''Zionist regime'' tries something first...

Triy something like enforcing the nuclear proliferation treaty that IRAN signed? "Try something"...... you people are something else....the sheeple are sheeple for a reason it seems.

-Alien

I have no doubt that Israel will attack Iran. I just hope it is not a setup! There is a pretty big problem that everyone just seems to ignore! You/ We cannot occupy Iran! There is the only reason we are not on the ground right now!
www.israelnationalnews.com...

Israel and can bomb all day and night, but in the end a Nuclear Iran will be a reality. They will just dig in deeper and war will hasten in a nuclear Iran! They already have enough refined uranium for 4 bombs by the way! You don’t run facilities that size for years on end with no result!
www.jpost.com...

Israel is under attack! All these emerging democracies are a great threat to Israel! The people of the region hate Israel! I know it seems like you serve the Israeli interest but I think it is actually a Saudi interest that is being served!

I am very afraid that you want to see Iran realize their nuclear ambitions while at war with Israel! It seems to me that you seek the destruction of Israel, or at least you do unknowingly!

I would hope those in power would not push it to this, but an open war between the US and Russia would mean war upon US shores! It would also obligate China to come to Russias aid. America cannot weather that storm! So really you seek to empower Iran, Russia to destroy Israel while the US would be forced to sit back and watch! If you have any doubt about the Rusian threat just see the first link!

A million dead Iraqis is enough for this century! There are 15 million innocent souls in Israel who the USA should protect. There are millions of innocent in Iran who are just as deserving. Do you recall the old saying “What if they gave a war and no one came”? Don’t buy into this crap!!!!!

Samuel

Cowards and fear-mongers are alike. The world belongs to no one.
There are many among us who have faith in something and it is buy this creed we will war.

This back and forth of words has no bearing when men take up arms for their faith and this is the flaw of all belief systems.

On one hand it brings fellow ship on the other splinters.
Look into history and choose your faith, because it's about to repeat it self upon the world.

Just as a man's denominational orientation is the result of upbringing, and only the religious need as such slumbers in his soul, the political opinion of the masses represents nothing but the final result of an incredibly tenacious and thorough manipulation of their mind and soul. -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

why we rant and rave about Iran this Israel that the USA does this or that , Iran seems to be doing all the hate www.cnn.com... ok so it a MSM but the report it self is not

(CNN) -- While the world's attention has been focused on tumult in the Arab world, Iran has cracked down with impunity on dissent and is feared to come down even harder as elections approach, Amnesty International said in a sweeping report.

The global human rights monitor documented "widespread and persistent human rights violations in Iran."

"It is essential if further mass human rights violations are to be avoided that the international community act on behalf of the hundreds, if not thousands, of prisoners of conscience and political prisoners imprisoned after unfair trials in Iran," Amnesty International said in the report. in bold to see who the report is from.
So in Iran no, no war will land you in prison but yes yes war it shall be will get you all a grave stone.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation

Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Its not my title.. Its the title of the article, which we are required to use per T and C.

Well then your interpretation is dangerously persuasive.

AAC

Its not my fault that people are unable to read articles and comprehend them.. I will try and dumb down any other responses as much as possible to help those people out...

/end sarcasm

You yourself cannot even comprehend that I said your title was persuasive. I didn't say the title that you created out of thin air was. It is your thread. So it was your title. And your title is dangerously persuasive. No matter who the original author was. They didn't post it on this site. You did. Get it now?

Israel is a bigger threat to the world than Iran any day of the week. You're just too brainwashed to see it. Good luck with that.

AAC

Kill 'em all and let their gods sort them out.

They're all cut from the same, feculent cloth anyway. They're all a bane on this planet. :zzz:

Xcathdra .. why your thread doesnt surprise me
pure trolling

My response to you :
Israel ready to wipe Iran off the map

Originally posted by jesiaha
Here's a nice experience to try out next summer for those who do not grasp the simplistic nature of the politics of this whole mess.

1: Find an hornet nest.

2: Proceed to shake the living crap out of it.

3: See what happens

Conclusion : Well...if you conclude by blaming the hornets by calling them violent, aggressive beast that should be dealt with...consider yourself a moron.

No no no, you got it all wrong.
This is the right experience you should try out next summer:

1: Be surrounded by 4-5 hornet nests.
2: For sometime (oh, lets say 60-some years) have a hornet, or two fly up to you and sting you, badly!
3: Try to make hornets stop by giving them more space, some more places to visit without disturbing you.
4: Fail, hornets from all 4-5 nests keep coming over and stinging you, then fly away.
5: Get annoyed, each time a hornet stings you slap it or squash it to death as a warning, yet don't destroy it's nest.
6: Alas, more and more hornets come by to sting you.
7: Far away nests send more and more hornets to closer nests to reinforce them, thus - More stinging ensues.

Are you now not entitled to shake aforementioned nests to make them stop?
Yeah, maybe this way you'll understand how it REALLY is.