Let's Talk about David Wilcock's 2012 Claims

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It's hard to believe anyone these days. Wilcock, Goodchild, Icke, and the rest of them keep saying something is coming, they talk in circles and double talk. The way they predict future events, it's like something is going to happen in a month or so. The months come and go and they come up with other reasons why things haven't happened.

I'll believe it when I see it with my own eyes. Until then the jury is out until they can prove without a doubt what they say comes to fruition.

reply to post by WeRpeons

Now that's being open minded Just because someone doesn't drink the kool-aide doesn't make them a close minded individual, just an aware one.

Originally posted by WeRpeons

I'll believe it when I see it with my own eyes. Until then the jury is out until they can prove without a doubt what they say comes to fruition.

Even though I have experienced what I have personally, I have a hard time buying into allot of the tripe these days.

Especially the Channeler's.

Not so sure about the eyes though.

It will more likely start as a feeling and progress from there.

reply to post by MamaJ

I have countless years of research under me

You can make all of the claims you want even about reading a lot. Post something of substance. If you don't then I will have to assume that you are an angeber.

I'm quite hesitant to lay everything out for ATS. Why? Do you really want to know what the future holds?

This lends to the confirmation of you being an angeber.

Space is unknown for the most part.

This is all meaningless prattle that signifies nothing.

punch hole cloud

Glad you saw one. There are many atmospheric events that are not that rare, but rarely seen since people spend so much time indoors and do n ot know to look up and around.

Do you think the Sun has always been in the same place since its conception? It hasn't.

The Sun was formed, not conceived.

Originally posted by stereologist
The Sun was formed, not conceived.

Well, to be fair, they do call the formation of a star a "birth"

Welp, off to watch some star porn. bom chicka waow waow

reply to post by MamaJ

If you are an energy being then do you not think you can be effected[sic] by Space?

Please provide an example of an energy being not in an old Star Trek show.

Sure there were wars and uprisings in the past but nothing like today and the last 50 years at least!!!

Seriously? Are you forgetting the ferocity of the US Civil War? Are you forgetting about WWI? Are you forgetting about WWI? What about the Boxer revolution? What about Roman conquests? What about the destruction of the empires of the Americas?

Do you know what is going on with our climate and our oceans. What about the animals and the ocean life?

Please provide a point.

Yes...everything changes but change is happening quicker and quicker. One can barely keep up with the local news much less world news.

The ability to report on more events is not the same as as change becoming quicker.

If you believe in Aliens...what are they communicating?

If you believe in a Religion...what are they saying?

Please provide a point.

Hey folks!

In the heat of your amazing debates have you forgot the topic?

Let's try to stay somewhat on the main topic or related, so other folks coming in don't see people just pissing in each others cornflakes.

The first problem with the video is that it shows convicted scammer Sean David Morton.

Don't know if I can watch the rest.

reply to post by Damrod


Excellent comment damrod. The Earth did speed up. On the other hand the Earth was slowed by tidal interactions. That slow down is much larger than the speed up caused by the quake. The Chile quake also had a speed up effect. This is due to conservation of momentum just like a skater speeds up by drawing their arms in towards the axis of rotation.

All bigger earthquakes cause a speed up, but is it measureable? I believe it is inferred.

Originally posted by Freenrgy2
The first problem with the video is that it shows convicted scammer Sean David Morton.

Don't know if I can watch the rest.

Interesting I didn't even match the face to the name. Thanks.

Little on info on Sean.

abcnews.go.com...

reply to post by Lighterside


The conception of a star indicates a birth. Stars are not born, but formed. Conception also refers to an idea. I don't see either use of the word as plausible in the situation where it was used.

reply to post by Realtruth


Dude...I steer clear of the Wilcock threads...there are two opinions on here it seems, half hate him and half love him. I got his last book, haven't finished it yet, but it's not bad....he does have some decent research abilities, especially for discovering the obscure studies.

But that's not why I replied...I just read your OBE story link in your sig...way cool story! Good responses too. When I was younger I could lucid dream but the ability seems to have evaded me since then. I'd love to achieve an OBE.

Originally posted by didact

But that's not why I replied...I just read your OBE story link in your sig...way cool story! Good responses too. When I was younger I could lucid dream but the ability seems to have evaded me since then. I'd love to achieve an OBE.

It's actually not hard at all to do.

I swear I think that it should be encouraged at a very young age, but that would go against every religion on the planet.

Thanks for reading it, my goal was to show people that even the most unaware person can get a curve ball tossed to them.

If I could give a gift to everyone on ATS it would be an OBE.

reply to post by Xcalibur254


so then he was like "I'll wait and see. If it's not Orwell then I'll go with the Mayans"

either way he was looking at it in a very novel way I find interesting. this "change" could happen and we would just wake up like it was any other day and you wouldn't notice any changes. I like to listen to Wilcock but hadn't heard of him until youtube came along. I wouldn't pay money to listen to him but it's nice to know I can identify with some of what he's talking about as if it's an intuitive thing.

reply to post by Realtruth


David Wilcock has been claiming disclosure and shtf for years. Every year, he claims that it will be that year. He cites his sources as his "insiders" and he rehashes most of what people already know. Last year, he got on the Elenin hype and claimed that there was an underground nuclear war going on in the US against TPTB's secret underground base at the same time.

Also, the products he sells on his website automatically signal him as a fraud. He sells you "awakening" packages. But the thing is, awakening is for everyone. People will go through their own awakening. It's not something you can sell in a package. And if he really did have a method for awakening, why sell it at such a high price?

We are definitely approaching some sort of global climax in terms of political unrest. What Wilcock is saying is not from his own research. Wilcock just repeats the same stuff that conspiracy theorists have been saying for years to make his work look credible and then adds information he made up to make you buy his products.

I've never been into Wilcock much, as has already been pointed out several times, his track record and his flair for theatrics and ego kind of push me away. But in general, something's been building up for years, and 2012 will probably be the year where we see a lot of people lose faith in old institutions, and that will lead to a number of things. A SHTF scenario, an "awakening", unrest, so on, and so forth. It's doubtful that the huge spiritual/supernatural aspects will play out, but this year is definitely some kind of turning point.

Lets NOT talk about David Wilcock's 2012 predictions. Lets use our Telepathy to send out our thoughts on David Wilcock to eachother. If you know what I'm thinking, then your ascension is beginning.

Go check out Wilcock's ascension2000.com website using the way back machine,


"Ascension 2000

Dedicated to the Single Greatest Moment of All Time,

Now Within One Year of Arrival"

^early 1999

History repeats itself, just like the time before David will have no apologies and a mountain of excuses, he'll sweep it under the rug then pick a new date.

Sorry...can't get past the fact he sets himself up almost as a religious figure. Edgar Casey was humble from written accounts and not very self promoting. He was usually begged into readings. David is not and to me that's a bad sign. On the upside, promoting peace and enlightenment is good.