Remote Viewers Predict Catastrophic Meteor Impact Before 2013

OH my, after watching this one:


2012 A Remote Viewing Experiment

This obviously describes the OP's link, and I had weird ideas spring forth.

Since these diasters are being looked at on 2 alternative timelines, not necessarily ours, but one of them has a possibilty of being similar to ours, ie no ufo disclosure or RV disclosure up to a certain date, and that one had the worst score for disasters.

Its just a possibility, and to some, a probability, that this would be OUR timeline.

So is this suppression done by intent of the controllers to try to bring us as close to the disaster timeline, where there were no people left in Sydney, after the tsumani, so bigger damage obviously?

Are they trying to force that timeline!

This becomes the work then, disclosure.

And that is too close to home. Doing dishes I saw two timelines when frustrated and doing some deep soul searching and asking questions.

I saw a disclosure one and a disaster one. That was some time back. I'm pretty sure this was before I had even read up on any form of RV.

That means the Tibetan Monks saw a timeline, but who's timeline?

Intent is a very strong force, we should really start to use it to see, disclosure, changes, and spend time trying to emulate the best possibilities.

I had missed the whole timeline thing in the OP, and also Ed Dames did not bring that up.

Thats it make up as many reasons as possible to what you claim NOT happening some people will fall for it others wont.

IT DOESN'T WORK!

More posts with believers pretending this works.

RV does not work. It has never worked. That is why it was dumped from the military forcing the pretenders to go out there and drink from the wallets of the gullible.

What is cool about RV is that they have built an excuse mechanism into their fairy tale. Reminds me of the news commentator that says, "They are going to do A, but I wouldn't put it past them to do B."

That way they have a prediction and a hedge. No matter what happens they say, "I told you so. I'm always right."

Anyone here figure out why the Chinese never followed up on the "extraordinary" PK story? It has been decades. I'll bet they faked the report.

reply to post by stereologist


plenty of real Data on Remote Viewing and only 3 guys on ATS say it isnt so.
Scale says Remote Viewing
nexttttttttt!!!

reply to post by rebellender


Actually there is almost no data here. You have the same small core of fakers pretending RV works. These are the same people that were unable to make it work for the military.

Your argument is a logical fallacy called proof by numbers.

The issue is the data and the data is not in support of RV.

reply to post by stereologist


You have made your point repetitively, abundantly and absolutely crystal clear. You do not believe in remote viewing. Nor will you ever since there appears to be no evidence that will satisfy your criteria for inclusion in your processes of evaluation. Your mind is closed, shut down tight and, for all practical purposes, forever will be on this subject.

I am a remote viewer, with a military, civilian and NOC background, and haven't the first incentive to dissuade you, to engage you in concise discussion or to entertain the extreme thought that I might change your opinion.

You have nothing to fear from me. So if you will excuse me, my hot chocolate is ready and I will be off, your blinders firmly in place and my experiences firmly in hand.

reply to post by FraudSlayer


There are plenty of people that have deluded themselves into believing in RV.

I have an open mind that can evaluate the evidence. I see the difference between what is and what is not. I accept the evidence. I do not exclude the evidence as so many people do to hang onto their cherished beliefs.

One of the poorest methods to claim that something works is to simply state that. People that claim they can do RV without providing evidence are simply making empty boasts.

If you can RV then demonstrate that you can. I certainly am receptive to being shown that evidence for RV exists.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by FraudSlayer

 

One of the poorest methods to claim that something works is to simply state that.
exists.

One of the poorest ways to claim Data based studies
Remote Viewing is bogus is to simply state it does not work.

reply to post by rebellender


The onus is on those that make the claim. No one has to disprove anything.

That is simple to understand.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by rebellender

 

The onus is on those that make the claim. No one has to disprove anything.

That is simple to understand.

Actually lets do a pole the thread is rich in data and wonder and support. It has been flagged and stared. Only you have made your point clear many many times that "you dont like it"
I dont like Spam sandwiches
You are spamming the thread with Nay Say on Remote Viewing

No one has to disprove anything.

I agree with your words. You dont have to disprove anything.

I would actually think that several online groups with average people and not just RV, some meditation, like I tried last night before sleep, and suggestions for timeline A and B, so maybe some akin to the rigid protocols, and some more free form, perhaps a master thread like this, for people to add what comes to them.

For example what came in the past doing dishes was, one scenario was actually disclosure as in UFO disclosure, and not the fake kind, this one equalized and moved people to safety if necessary, it was a really grass roots empowerment kind. I saw podiums, happy relieved crowds, speakers of all sorts. The other line was, a huge pipeline disaster up into Canada, west coast, I think it was one that would carry the gas to the US, and I'm not sure if it created land slide type scenarios. It seemed to escalate into something far bigger.

I never wanted to write that and since I don't hold that with any fear, its nothing, just a blip in the universe, plus I plan on praying no other realm or timeline will ever experience this as well, so all people everywhere are safe.

Last night free form. I tried this 2 timelines. A and B, with the difference being, A akin to ours, had Fukushima going full force, and B, they evacuated the west coast and were doing clean up with their released advanced science.

Odd impressions. Didn't see coastal disasters, but saw Ufo's and some kind of intervention. Was trying to examine this from 2 locations one Fraser Valley, and one in the interior.

Oddly enough, in the interior, on Okanagan Lake, I saw strange mudbanks, come in, as if the sides of the lake had changed in timeline A, like debris. Uprooted trees.

But I also saw intervention.

The other one just seemed to have people out and about, shopping. I used the date June 6 2013.

Sidenote, I have more emotional ties to the Okanagan than the Coast, so more field connection possible maybe. This was somewhere between meditation and sleep as I was falling asleep.

I'm going to continue this a bit.

reply to post by rebellender


You are now using the logical fallacy of numbers.

None of those issues has any bearing on whether or not RV works.

You are also employing a straw man argument in claiming that I do not like RV. That is not the issue. The issue is the evidence and the evidence strongly suggests that RV does not work. Even Utts suggests that the phenomenon was just above chance or 50-50. The value was 50.1% wasn't it?

The evidence simply is not there.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by rebellender

 

You are now using the logical fallacy of numbers.

None of those issues has any bearing on whether or not RV works.

You are also employing a straw man argument in claiming that I do not like RV. That is not the issue. The issue is the evidence and the evidence strongly suggests that RV does not work. Even Utts suggests that the phenomenon was just above chance or 50-50. The value was 50.1% wasn't it?

The evidence simply is not there.

see as the real work on RV continues in a classified setting I rather doubt we will know for the longest time.
go fish off the back of another boat.
Now next poster please

Listing anecdotes about attempts at RV are rather meaningless since we can go back to the evidence supplied and learn that:
1. very few people seem to be able to do RV - at least that is what Utts states
2. practice and training seem to make no difference - Utts again

The method of the faker is to list dozens, hundreds, even thousands of things. Then when 1 comes up true they claim success and sweep the huge pile of failures under the rug.

Make enough guesses and it is possible to argue that one of them turned out correct.
1. You are wearing a tee shirt
2. It is raining where you are
3. The temperature was below freezing where you are
4. There was a police call in your neighborhood
5. You live with your parents
6. You lost power during the night
7. Last night dinner included potatoes
and so forth and so on

If a test required that I get 75% correct - well that would be another story wouldn't it?

reply to post by Unity_99

How do you think Ingo Swann
felt about writing Penetration?

reply to post by rebellender


Well thats the thing, is hard to share disasters really. Don't want to put things out but also feel that if people are aware of their intentions, the field, their abilities, possibilities, and start to do kind things to each other, if they unplug from their perpetual media of war, violence and fear porn in movies, and news. If they start to seek awareness without the emotional charge, but calmly and put the emotion into doing good and seeing good, that things really can change.

I also feel that its really important to ask for full disclosure, and thats not just ufology, that is also the tech that would propel this planet forward, equalize people, without tearing down others, abundance, not scarsity, and clean up the environmental hazards and nuclear.

Then, its only for awareness that some of this is coming out.

I read that book penetration,but don't recall all of it now.

One thing about the moon itself, there are bases there, and there are tubes, that you walk through or trucks can drive through. What I called nazi's, greys/ et's ie telepathic humans, and the US Navy.

reply to post by Unity_99


How long ago did Ingo write the book and now the photos get declassified.
Something stopped moon exploration and for Russia too. Big Ships no of this world

reply to post by rebellender


I have had dreams, all my life. In childhood, odd things like Nazi's when I really didn't know much about them, and family involved, danger, looking for something I kept dreaming about, around town but there was nothing like this, and then memories of those tubes flash in in daytime, and of course we've had sitings and more, son missing time even. When slivers widen in the memories, more panic, for days, like post traumatic stress syndrome.

Something with kids, a program.

Also, in the RV attempt when I got pulled to view my friends abduction and ended up there, and interacting with a grey, who wouldn't let me near my friend but told me a bit. And I asked where they came from, and he showed me the craft leaving a base on the moon. Then, a few days, each night, tagged and intimidated by this same being, who was not happy at all that I had done this. Then I knew, that day, knew, we were on their list, and tried to stay up. The covers moved while going to sleep and a mind met mine, and asked if I wanted to be awake for this. I chose sleep. I had a huge chunk out of my foot and a big burn under my arm, and some glimpses of memories. My son, up in the night, went to watch TV, one of his shows, and got confused, spun around in a circle, was facing the xbox with the show over. An hour was gone. My friend, who started all of this, wrote in the morning to share his missing time. And he also had wounds.

There is already a program there, but I don't know what footing its really on. Also dark side of the moon, really strikes me as the shadow side of the cosmos.

I don't like the moon, only once in a while is the night sky so beautiful that I feel OK about it up there. But the reflective side is more positive feeling to me.

Oddly enough, my friend wanted me to do more attempts to RV this and was upset I chose sleep. I tried to explain, its not SAFE. And also, what primal fear is like. No, that is endangerment.

Now I'm not really really quick to judge. For all I know that burn under my arm could have been something to save me. I don't know.

But there is nothing nice about being in that situation.

Also in the memories afterwards, we met with a larger craft, more like a huge station, with additions added, not attractive looking by any means, and saw my son in a chair akin to a high tech device with something on his head, wired in. Just glimpses of various things.

I can't stand the moon. I can't stand any military programs or things happening in that area. My feelings are, would rather be in a big team arresting them all and cleaning that up.

reply to post by rebellender

Something stopped moon exploration

Good idea. The moon exploration was halted because no one had died. The human moon exploration was stopped because it was stopped while a success. Everyone remembers the moon exploration as a success. Subsequently money was used to explore the outer planets. There were 4 missions to the outer planets that were huge successes.

More lunar work is happening right now.

So RV us now nothing more than dreams? Is that what this boils down to?