Anti-Zionism - An excuse to be openly an anti-semite

Originally posted by L00kingGlass


Khazarian Jews are not semites, what do they care?

edit on 16-2-2012 by L00kingGlass because: (no reason given)

Bare in mind this has been going on for generations therefore many Jews of today unknowingly have been born into this lie. The people who deserve being held accountable are those who continue to pull the strings of power perpetuating this subversion in the name of Jews.

reply to post by Sintabon3


That's completely ridiculous dude.. I will say that there are probably anti-Semites out there, posing as anti-Zionists, there are. It's evident.

Though that hardly means, that all anti-Zionists are anti-Semites, and to say so is IMO ignorant.. I have a problem with any state founded our guided by a religious directive. I could be wrong, but it would seem as if that system would be prejudicial by its very nature. I have not one problem with anyone, for believing what they want to believe, when it comes to deities, lack thereof, or other, however, when it comes to people that have, that's where I start to have problems.

The Israeli government though, is full of a bunch of jerks. I have no doubt that many of the countries citizens are wonderful people. There are a lot of people in that region that have been subjugated for way too long though, and that is another problem.

(The statement above about jerks in government is not solely applicable to Israel there are plenty elsewhere as well.)

The Jews
by Rabbi Dr. Nathan Lopes Cardozo
Monday, 19 April 2004, 0 0
"Some people like the Jews, and some do not. But no thoughtful man can
deny the fact that they are, beyond any question, the most formidable
and the most remarkable race which has appeared in the world."

Winston Churchill (1)

**

"The Jew is that sacred being who has brought down from heaven the
everlasting fire, and has illumined with it the entire world. He is the
religious source, spring, and fountain out of which all the rest of the
peoples have drawn their beliefs and their religions."

Leo Tolstoy (2)

**

"It was in vain that we locked them up for several hundred years behind
the walls of the Ghetto. No sooner were their prison gates unbarred,
then they easily caught up with us, even on those paths which we opened
up without their aid."

A. A. Leroy Beaulieu (3)

**

"The Jew gave us the Outside and the Inside – our outlook and our inner
life. We can hardly get up in the morning or cross the street without
being Jewish. We dream Jewish dreams and hope Jewish hopes. Most of our
best words, in fact – new, adventure surprise, unique, individual,
person, vocation, time, history, future, freedom, progress, spirit, faith
hope, justice - are the gifts of the Jews."

Thomas Cahill (4)

**

"One of the gifts of the Jewish culture to Christianity is that it has
taught Christians to think like Jews, and any modern man who has not
learned to think as though he were a Jew can hardly be said to have
learned to think at all."

William Rees-Mogg (5)

**

"It is certain that in certain parts of the world we can see a peculiar
people, separated from the other peoples of the world and this is
called the Jewish people…. This people is not only of remarkable antiquity
but has also lasted for a singularly long time… For where as the people
of Greece and Italy, of Sparta, Athens and Rome and others who came so
much later have perished so long ago, these still exist, despite the
efforts of so many powerful kings who have tried a hundred times to wipe
them out, as their historians testify, and as can easily be judged by
the natural order of things over such a long spell of years. They have
always been preserved, however, and their preservation was foretold… My
encounter with this people amazes me…."

Blaise Pascal (6)

**

"The Jewish vision became the prototype for many similar grand designs
for humanity, both divine and man made. The Jews, therefore, stand at
the center of the perennial attempt to give human life the dignity of a
purpose."

Paul Johnson (7)

**

"As long as the world lasts, all who want to make progress in
righteousness will come to Israel for inspiration as to the people who had the
sense for righteousness most glowing and strongest."

Matthew Arnold (8)

**

Indeed it is difficult for all other nations of the world to live in
the presence of the Jews. It is irritating and most uncomfortable.

The Jews embarrass the world as they have done things which are beyond
the imaginable. They have become moral strangers since the day their
forefather Abraham introduced the world to high ethical standards and to
the fear of Heaven. They brought the world the Ten Commandments, which
many nations prefer to defy. They violated the rules of history by
staying alive, totally at odds with common sense and historical evidence.

They outlived all their former enemies, including vast empires such as
the Romans and the Greeks. They angered the world with their return to
their homeland after 2,000 years of exile and after the murder of six
million of their brothers and sisters. They aggravated mankind by
building, in the wink of an eye, a democratic State the likes of which others
were not able to create in even hundreds of years. They built living
monuments such as the duty to be holy and the privilege to serve one's
fellow men. They had their hands in every human progressive endeavor,
whether in science, medicine, psychology or any other discipline, while
totally out of proportion to their actual numbers. They gave the world
the Bible and even their "savior".

Jews taught the world not to accept the world as it is, but to
transform it, yet only a few nations wanted to listen. Moreover, the Jews
introduced the world to one God, yet only a minority wanted to draw the
moral conclusions.

So the nations of the world realize that they would have been lost
without the Jews. And while their subconscious tries to remind them of how
much of Western civilization is framed in terms of concepts first
articulated by the Jews, they do anything to suppress it. They deny that
Jews remind them of a higher purpose of life and the need to be honorable,
and do anything to escape its consequences. It is simply too much to
handle for them, too embarrassing to admit, and above all, too difficult
to live by.

So the nations of the world decided once again to go out of their way
in order to find a stick to hit the Jews. The goal: to prove that Jews
are as immoral and guilty of massacre and genocide as some of themselves
are. All this in order to hide and justify their own failure to even
protest when six million Jews were brought to the slaughterhouses of
Auschwitz and Dachau; so as to wipe out the moral conscience of which the
Jews remind them. And they found a stick.

Nothing could be more gratifying for them than to find the Jews in a
struggle with another people (who are completely terrorized by their own
leaders), against whom the Jews, against their best wishes, have to
defend themselves in order to survive. With great satisfaction, the world
allows and initiates the rewriting of history so as to fuel the rage of
yet another people against the Jews. This, in spite of the fact that
the nations understand very well that peace between the parties could
have come a long time ago, if only the Jews would have had a fair chance.
Instead, they happily jumped on the wagon of hate, so as to justify
their jealousy of the Jews and their incompetence to deal with their own
moral issues.

When Jews look at the bizarre play, they can only smile as this
artificial game once more proves how the world paradoxically admits the Jews'
uniqueness. It is in their need to undermine the Jews that they
actually raise them.

**

"The study of history of Europe during the past centuries teaches us
one uniform lesson: That the nations which received and in any way dealt
fairly and mercifully with the Jew have prospered; and that the nations
that have tortured and oppressed him have written out their own curse."

Olive Schreiner (9)

**

"If there is any honour in all the world that I should like, it would
be to be an honorary Jewish citizen."

A. L. Rowse (10)

**

Footnotes*

(1) Quoted by Geoffry Wheatcroft in The Contrversy of Zion,
Sinclair-Stevensohn, London, 1996, X1.

(2) Leo Tolstoy, Quoted by Chief Rabbi J. H. Hertz in A Book of
Jewish Thought, Oxford University Press, 1966, p.135.

(3) Anatole Leroy Beaulieu, French historian. Israel among the
nations, p.162. 1893; Ibid, p.174.

(4) Thomas Cahill, The Gifts of the Jews, Doubleday, New York,
1998, p. 240-41.

(5) William Rees Mogg, The Times, quoted by Chief Rabbi Jonathan
Sacks, Radical Then, Radical Now, Harper Collins, London, 2000,
p 4.

(6) Pascal, Pensees, translation by A. J. Krailsheimer, Penquin,
Harmondsworth, 1968, p. 171, 176-77.

(7) Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews, Weindenfeld &
Nicolsohn, London, 1987, p 2.

(8) Matthew Arnold, Literature and Dogma, Smith, Elder, London,
1876, p 58

(9) Olive Schreiner, South African novelist, quoted by Chief Rabbi J.
H. Hertz, A Book of Jewish Thought, Oxford University Press,
1966, p. 177, 180; Ibid., p. 180.

(10) A.L. Rowse, Historians I Have Known, Duckworth, London,
1995.

* All of the above quoted authors are Gentiles.

reply to post by ToFarGone


As an American and a Hebrew I am sick and tired of having European socialists dictate their beliefs and policies to Israel and the United States. They fancy themselves an elite talking down to the rest of the world. The Europeans have been at war with each other for the last 400 years. The only common denominator they have is their hatred of Israel and the Jewish people. They are living in the past and cannot stand the fact that the Jewish people rose up from the ashes. Soon Europe will be overrun with their Muslim immigrants and they will have to face that reality. The EU will fall apart because of their failed socialist economic policies. Speaker Gingrich said it best when he opined "the Palestinians are an invented people."

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GENESIS 12:3

I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee...

ואברכה מברכיך ומקללך אאר ונברכו בך כל משפחת האדמה

reply to post by libertytoall


Mark Twain, who visited Palestine in 1867, described it as:

“ ...[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse....A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action....We never saw a human being on the whole route....There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

Source: Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad. London: 1881 (New American Library, 1997).


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Originally posted by haemet
reply to post by ToFarGone

 

GENESIS 12:3

I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee...

ואברכה מברכיך ומקללך אאר ונברכו בך כל משפחת האדמה

Those who are originally part of the 12 tribes of Israel, sure!

Edit: The Khazarian Rothschild Zionists can sit on a tack!

Oh, here we go.....

The Fact that the land was illegally taken from the Palestinians is reason enough to say the state of Israel should not exist. The fact that Israel continues to steal land from the Palestinians and continues to impose apartheid is reason enough to "hate" the Zionist regime. It has nothing to do with the fact that they're Jews and everything to do with what is right and wrong. Get it?.........probably not I'm guessing.

Please tell me this is a joke.... how did the OP get that many stars/flags for garbage like this? I do not hate Jews, Africans, Asians, or any general populace. I do hate their leaders, governments and military forces --- who are more often than not, psychopathic dictatorships & oppressive regimes.

I also hate the select elite who believe dominating the planet is their natural right. Yet that's somehow "anti-Semite"?? The OP makes me sick...

This is the sort of thing that only fuels Anti-Zionism.

It is such a fallacy of dark and looping false logic. How can any criticism of a political entity be in any way related to a ethnicity of people that may believe in it or a religious identity its follower may have.

Zionism only encourages more scrutiny when it makes any criticism into anti-Semitism. If anything it is like the policy of a dictatorship to almost comically and nonsensically label people as an extremist and enemies of state just for having reservations about any certain political ideology.

This argument will single handedly destroy any Zionist PR agenda it may have. It screams injustice and insanity to too many people. It's like the boy who cried wolf. Too much BS makes the customer choke, and then realize what you are shoveling.

From my own personal experience, almost all critics of Zionism began as ignorant proponents or moderates who didn't care one way or the other. The catalyst into becoming a staunch opponent always started with this unjust label.

You call me an anti-Semite and you make an enemy for the rest of your argument with me. No one calls me a Nazi just like that without making me a lifelong opponent instead of a cowering apologist.
I don't think so. You don't get to not think of a counter argument to founded and rational criticism just by dropping the anti-bomb.

Bite us, collectively.

I hate it when cowards resort to this just because they lack the intelligence to argue rationally. What is the point of those over priced educations if this crap is the only counter argument they can offer?

It really only encourages opposition by being so flagrant and unjust.

Regardless of zionism or anti semitic remarks , Israel still has some of the worst human rights records, doesnt want to sign the NPT and has nukes , and also commits genocide on a mass scale .
They frequently breach UN resolution by using white phosphorous, they blatantly kill anyone who isnt jewish.

So Israel and those who control it are simply monsterous and have only emulated those who perpetrated crimes against them which led to the creation of Israel in the first place.

Israel gets no love from me , the jewish / non jewish people who suffer at the hands of a brutal regime I feel for them , because they are just caught up in a political/military spiral of hate .

Call me any name you like im not an anti semite , I'll laugh in your face for calling me such silly names.
All I can see is that alot of innocent people die needlessly on each side of the fence for what reason ?
the power struggle of a powerful elite minority.

The Israel government has become nothing more than the 4th reich , however they like to dress it up.
Killing people because they are not of the same faith is nothing more than pure hatred and that of nazi ideals.

Originally posted by WozaMeathed
No its not.
I can hate your government and The Zionist that control it,

Zionists and Jews do not control any government other than that of Israel.

but that doesn't mean i hate Every Jew.
Im sick of some Jewish folk calling us all racist Anti semite's every time that we criticize your leaders or your country.

Were not racist jew hating people, we just hate some of the things that your Zionist leaders do.
There is the difference.

What form of Zionism, as in Jews living between the Nile and Euphrates, in practical reality, is acceptable?

Originally posted by sapien82
Regardless of zionism or anti semitic remarks , Israel still has some of the worst human rights records, doesnt want to sign the NPT and has nukes , and also commits genocide on a mass scale .

No they don't have anywhere near the worst human rights record. Israel is apparently so successful at committing "genocide" that the Gaza Strip is massively overpopulated.

By contrast. Just recently the government of Sri Lanka extinguished an indgeneous liberation movement. There was no two-state agreement. There was no peace process. There was nothing but total military extermination of separatist terrorist scum [and the Tamil Tigers had degenerated into revolting wicked monsters and deserved everything they got], and liquidation of tens of thousands of sympathetic civilians [who didn't deserve what they got]. There is no anti-Sinhalese divestment movement in any Western nation. No Tamil sympathy front. No U.N. resolutions.

Now why is that.

Does it have anything to do with the J thing?

The Israel government has become nothing more than the 4th reich , however they like to dress it up.
Killing people because they are not of the same faith is nothing more than pure hatred and that of nazi ideals.

Amazing that there are no Jews left in Arab nations, now, after they had lived there for thousands of years. (at the end of WW2, Baghdad had 250,000 Jews. Today, zero. BTW, the Baath party was virulently anti Jewish and allied with the Axis) But still, there are Christians and Muslims in Israel. (and even some Bahai, whom the Iranian nuts hate even worse than Jews) How did that happen? Did the ZioNazis just get lazy or what? That's not really like an evil master race now is it. Goering is embarrassed.

BTW the Christians are leaving from Iraq and Lebanon and Egypt.

oh have i missed something , Are israel just leveling the field , are Israel going to kill 7 million arabs before the UN give them their own state of Palestine ?

reply to post by mbkennel


there is no Anti Sinhalese movement because its not the middle east , there are no jews or muslims so no one cares !

thats a sad fact , there are eradications of indigenous peoples all over the planet and no one cares, because it has nothing to do with jews or muslims.

I'll check again at lunchtime

reply to post by mbkennel


one person

rahm emanuel

white house chief of staff.

Israeli citizen. Hawk, Zionist, wall street criminal, ....at worst.

at best, he is someone deeply entrenched in the Israeli side of politics who always advocates war in ME countries not coincidentally with Israelis needs. He is central to US government and always has an ear to Israeli concerns far beyond simply being concern for their stability. He was even accused of serving in their military.

Just so you get the idea of what this guys family is like,

the character Ari gold from entourage was based off his brother, no joke.

Originally posted by casenately
reply to post by mbkennel

 

one person

rahm emanuel

white house chief of staff.

Israeli citizen. Hawk, Zionist, wall street criminal, ....at worst.

at best, he is someone deeply entrenched in the Israeli side of politics who always advocates war in ME countries not coincidentally with Israelis needs. He is central to US government and always has an ear to Israeli concerns far beyond simply being concern for their stability. He was even accused of serving in their military.

Just so you get the idea of what this guys family is like,

the character Ari gold from entourage was based off his brother, no joke.

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In other words, being Jewish is an essentialist evil which infects men's soul. Been there heard that, seen the movie, haaated it! boorrrrring

reply to post by mbkennel


no,

supporting a foreign countries concerns over the nation you are paid to serve publicly is wrong. He has a huge conflict of interests.

If he was from an Iranian background with the same qualifications or more, would he be where he is?
No, because he can't be objective about letting his country suffer the consequences of a war or lack thereof because of his direct loyalty to a foreign nation he is still a citizen of.

He should be so far from policy making he couldn't see it with a telescope.

Originally posted by sapien82
reply to post by mbkennel

 

there is no Anti Sinhalese movement because its not the middle east , there are no jews or muslims so no one cares !

thats a sad fact , there are eradications of indigenous peoples all over the planet and no one cares, because it has nothing to do with jews or muslims.

I'll check again at lunchtime

Is it the M thing and the J thing or, really, only the J thing?

When there was actual genocide, warcrimes and eradication of indigenous Muslims in Sudan, a few people got upset, but not enough to really do anything about it, like boycott China.