Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

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A Montara man walking two lapdogs off leash was hit with an electric-shock gun by a National Park Service ranger after allegedly giving a false name and trying to walk away, authorities said Monday.

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The excessive use trained into our law enforcement has become something comparable to hitlers SS.

are there good police out there yes they just dont get hired and I need no proof of this as you can spend half your life on youttube watching the police brutality.

look further into the leaked training manuals and guidlines given to COPS homeland security and all forms of Gov. from midicare offices to unemmployment the U.s has quickly spiraled down into a us V them the people V the Gov. and then we look at the Occupy movement and only MOCK their struggle not seeing that it is the struggle of every citizen of earth.

how much more are we going to take as a society?

this Police state training is evident even in the article.

The ranger was trying to educate residents of the rule, Levitt said.

Education through Violence has become acceptable just look at all the schools in Cali. they ALL resemble Jails with cages on windows surrounded by perimeter fences and controlled with bells. Institutionalizing is what TPTB are doing and we are just taking like cattle to the slaughter. wake up people!


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Yes, it is just like Hitler's SS. And you're right -- you don't have to look very far to see it happening with your own eyes.

I was always against cops having tasers. Always. I knew they were going to abuse them, and to cause some people death from heart attacks. Of course, it's usually even worse than it looks. SO many unarmed people are being killed by cops lately, it just boggles the mind. Sorrowful times we're living in.

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Ah yes... the actions of one are somehow distorted by those who don't know the law into to somehow being a standard for every single law enforcement officer in the country and outlying territories. Yet at the exact same moment the same jump to conclusion fails to recognize the civilian broke the law as well, attempting to walk away from a lawful detention / stop.

We had a cop here in the town that I live in, about three years ago tazzed an unarmed mental guy, and killed him. He lied about the details and was tried later. It happened inside of a gas station, and all the guy wanted was a snickers bar.

Oh wow, someone updated a Wiki on this poor guy.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by itsthetooth


I dont thin the tazing killed the guy.. I am pretty sure it was the 7 officers who beat him to death...

just saying...

reply to post by Xcathdra


The reality is you and anyone else is likely to break a "law" daily. Not with criminal intent mind you...but because every action that has offended someone is now legislated as "unlawful". Your blind love for every law passed is disturbing.

reply to post by -W1LL

Witnesses said the use of a stun gun and the arrest seemed excessive for someone walking two small dogs off leash.

"It was really scary," said Michelle Babcock, who said she had seen the incident as she and her husband were walking their two border collies. "I just felt so bad for him."

Babcock said Hesterberg had repeatedly asked the ranger why he was being detained. She didn't answer him, Babcock said.

"He just tried to walk away. She never gave him a reason," Babcock said.

The ranger shot Hesterberg in the back with her shock weapon as he walked off, Babcock said.

"We were like in disbelief," she said. "It didn't make any sense."

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little b*tch with control issues obviously

refuses to explain why she's detaining
so it's a case of illegal detention

know the laws:

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Your Rights as a U.S. Citizen Against Unlawful Arrest ..........

“Citizens may resist Unlawful arrest to the point of taking an officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S., 529. The court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense was commited.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. If the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh V. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. 1; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260.

“Each Person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, ther person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self defense.” State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100.

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910.

“The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.”
Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol. 2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197.

I am sure some Police Officers in this Country are Unaware about these Court Decisions when Overstepping their Authority . People who know the Law should Remind them about it from Time to Time for the sake of their Own Safety . The Woman in this Video was Intimidated by that Police Officer because she was just Not Aware of her Rights and Cow Downed to his Intimidation of her Ignorance . She should take this matter to a Lawyer Immediately and press charges against him IMO .

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Originally posted by type0civ
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

The reality is you and anyone else is likely to break a "law" daily. Not with criminal intent mind you...but because every action that has offended someone is now legislated as "unlawful". Your blind love for every law passed is disturbing.

Not even close but justify your ignorance anyway you see fit.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by -W1LL

 

Ah yes... the actions of one are somehow distorted by those who don't know the law into to somehow being a standard for every single law enforcement officer in the country and outlying territories. Yet at the exact same moment the same jump to conclusion fails to recognize the civilian broke the law as well, attempting to walk away from a lawful detention / stop.

edit on 31-1-2012 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

I cal lit going to far.

The park was recently incorporated with a park that had different rules. Traditionally this park was the area that you could walk your dogs with no leash. Sometimes, the reaction you get is the reaction you ask for. All that needs to be done in this case is to inform the man of what the issue was, and then have him leash his dogs or leave. There is no need for ID, no need to run his name, and if he had no ID on him who cares??? Just have him leash the dogs and the problem is solved.

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I absolutely agree, and the tasing was not justified, even though the guy walking away was breaking he law by doing so. It could have been handled better, both both parties involved.

reply to post by Xcathdra


I'd walk away from a Park Ranger giving me a hard time over something so silly too. I do not blame the guy.

The tasing came as a result from the man walking away when the Ranger was trying to detain him. Fact is, he didnt need to be detained. Had the Ranger not been giving the guy a hard time over ID, there would have been no detention for him to walk away from.

reply to post by MrWendal


From a legal standpoint, most park rangers are commissioned / specially commissioned law enforcement. It would be no different than if you were in a car, got pulled over by a cop, decided you dont agree with the officer, and just drive off.

Its fine if people dont agree with the actions or even conclusions of an officer. However, they aren't the ones to argue the law with since they aren't the ones who determine guilt or innocence. I guarantee that had the situation been where the officer walked away from the guy, the guy would have been pissed the officer wasn't taking the time to listen and was being discourteous or rude by doing so.

If you have an issue with the actions of an officer, then use the proper channels to file the complaint and follow up with it.

I am disappointed.

Why would someone taser someone who was no threat to them?

Has torturing people in the street or out and abouts become legal?

Did I miss something?

When was public torture by rangers or police a legal thing to do?

Wow! Really, I am quite astonished! I am astonished that some folk think it is OK to torture someone for walking away. Why? Why is it OK? What am I not getting?



Sometimes this world seems like the twilight zone!

Fire the Park Ranger in question. He clearly called in sick on ROE day.
this reminds me.
one day my wife and a friend of hers were heading up the mtn for a weekend of camping. Pulled into a rest area where nobody else was there. I parked cross ways in the parking area. Nobody else was there. Coming back from the potty break I encountered a "Park Ranger" He told me to park correctly and gave me a lame excuse that a large biker club was on its way up. I looked at him.........with that Patriotic look.......you know, the are you kidding ,look........I made the conscience decision that if I didnt comply there was going to be trouble. I moved. 30 minutes later, no biker club.
Usurpation of Authority... Action and Reaction ...does someone really have to die for a point to be made?

Rules Of Engagement training. Cops should never leave the station with out it!!!

How is that action in any way acceptable?

The ranger was trying to educate residents of the rule, Levitt said.

Oh for #'s sake.

Gee, stop the guy, ask how he's doing, mention there's a leash law now, be on your way.

OR

Taze the #er!!!!!

Your tax dollars at work.

The best part is that the ranger is a woman. No sexism in tyranny and torture.

Roflmao @ people comparing this to Hitlers SS.

The day they start summarily executing people on the streets ill agree.

reply to post by Xcathdra


how was this a lawful detention witnesses said the man asked several times what he was being detained for and the ranger never told him. therefore by law he is free to leave, and NOT get shot in the back.

and yes I am grouping law enforcement once again, just look at the track record police dont help people they just come to clean up the mess and make their money, just like everyone else. just doing their job, its pathetic and sad.

Originally posted by nightbringr
Roflmao @ people comparing this to Hitlers SS.

The day they start summarily executing people on the streets ill agree.

your ignorance is NOT amusing.
www.huffingtonpost.com...

an 8th grade kid enough for you to notice?
I could go all day posting links like this. the abuse of power by our gov. has reached a new level 400 people were just arrested tear gassed flash banged, but all the while our Pres. our supposed leader is supporting other countries protests and funding those countries demise.

no not like hitler et all

Yeah bit excessive but he knew he might get a ticket for not having leashes for his dogs. That's why he gave them a fake name. And obviously he just bailed on the rangers. Once again, bit excessive but obey the damn rules when you are walking your dogs. These are the same people that leave their dogs crap behind...