God's Judgment on homosexuality.

Originally posted by Destinyone
My feelings on this subject are...some of the loudest anti-gay people are the way they are, because they actually hate themselves. Hate themselves for having homosexual feelings deep down inside. They fear their own feelings, and hence project their self loathing onto anyone they can. jmoho..

edit on 28-1-2012 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)

So by your logic people that disagree with Christianity and are loudly anti-Christian and hate Jesus Christ are secretly Christian.

Your twisted logic doesn't hold up as it can be applied to anything like people that hate Chinese food secretly love Chinese food, etc.

Originally posted by Ghostfreak1
I think that if there was a god, he would be bisexual...

Here's why...

According to christians words, God created everything, and made human in his image...
So basing on that, he engineered human beings, right ? So... if he did, and if he wasn't bisexual, why would he build humans (both male and female) with the anal region as erogenous zone ?

to give you a reward when you have a hard time in the toilet ? cmon...
So, christians, if you want to honnour your god's creation, you should all try anal sex ! just "Love your neighboor"... lol
Or become atheist by disgust of how god created you... and drop all those crasy unrealistic fairy tales... but if you keep being christian AND hating homos, you're just an hypocrite. And if you want to reply... please, use your brain and develop your own analysis and argue against mine... don't paste bible quotes... it should be quite easy (to don't use bible quotes) if you're not a vatican brainwashed sheep...

YAHWEH is both masculine and feminine. He has no sexual orientation.
I don't care what anybody does in their bedroom, but you should know anal sex makes contracting a STI or STD SEVERAL times more likely even with a condom. As the lining of the anus is much more sensitive then the vagina.

ALso why are you anti-christians so paranoid.? Nobody hates you. Don't stereotype them because you might have had a bad personal experience. Look at the ones who deny gay rights bills if you really want to see "hate" Not us lil ol' ATS folkz.

Originally posted by PharohGnosis

Originally posted by Destinyone
My feelings on this subject are...some of the loudest anti-gay people are the way they are, because they actually hate themselves. Hate themselves for having homosexual feelings deep down inside. They fear their own feelings, and hence project their self loathing onto anyone they can. jmoho..

edit on 28-1-2012 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)

So by your logic people that disagree with Christianity and are loudly anti-Christian and hate Jesus Christ are secretly Christian.

Your twisted logic doesn't hold up as it can be applied to anything like people that hate Chinese food secretly love Chinese food, etc.

Your common sense is priceless..
thats why we hate murderers and rapists too.. because we secretly are those things and love them.

by the way.. we don't hate homosexuals.. and I have met some homosexuals that I sincerely like in character.

It is the perverse act of sexuality we don't care for..and that can happen between man and woman as well.

Sp please get what we don't care for clarified properly and leave your projections of why out of it..you are so far off..its really quite stupid.

Originally posted by theBigToe

Originally posted by 547000
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Well, when you meet God, what will you do when He says morality was clear to everyone by the very way nature was set up and written upon everyone's heart, but people thinking they are wise corrupted their conscience?

Can we stop going back to the same pointless question?
If I meet God someday ill tell him where he can put his offensive book, after of course ive converted him to our sinful homosexually deviant ways and coerce him into bending over and letting me lick his taint.

Were you bullied in high school.?

reply to post by CaptainNemo


Many homosexuals were bullied in high school. Probably why they don't care much for them when they're adults.

You can't see how by blaspheming against what christians believe, this member is saying they and others feel bullied by christians? The affront is a protest and it is well deserved.

So, going back to the original question, what is God's judgement on homosexuality?

God absolutely loves it! He loves when gay people find love for themselves despite what others say, he loves their confidence.

Originally posted by PurpleSun

Originally posted by markosity1973

you're welcome! it is just as important for Christians to be educated on what God hates as much as what He loves. It's horrible for people to call themselves a Christian and they don't even know what's in their bible that they swear by.

Are you for real?

The word CHRISTIANITY and HATE are not compatible my dear.

edit on 29-1-2012 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)

don't take it out on me, take your beliefs out on scripture: Proverbs 6:16. According to His word, He does hate. That's not my opinion, that's a fact for anyone to read.

What does God hate? Those that oppose love.

It is because he is love that he opposes anything that is not love.

Christianity and hate are not compatible, is a true statement. We are not the judge, we are instructed to only do that which is loving, and leave all judgment to the father. If we do anything other than love, than we do that which he hates.

Originally posted by gabby2011

Originally posted by PharohGnosis

Originally posted by Destinyone
My feelings on this subject are...some of the loudest anti-gay people are the way they are, because they actually hate themselves. Hate themselves for having homosexual feelings deep down inside. They fear their own feelings, and hence project their self loathing onto anyone they can. jmoho..

edit on 28-1-2012 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)

So by your logic people that disagree with Christianity and are loudly anti-Christian and hate Jesus Christ are secretly Christian.

Your twisted logic doesn't hold up as it can be applied to anything like people that hate Chinese food secretly love Chinese food, etc.

Your common sense is priceless..
thats why we hate murderers and rapists too.. because we secretly are those things and love them.

by the way.. we don't hate homosexuals.. and I have met some homosexuals that I sincerely like in character.

It is the perverse act of sexuality we don't care for..and that can happen between man and woman as well.

Sp please get what we don't care for clarified properly and leave your projections of why out of it..you are so far off..its really quite stupid.

edit on 29-1-2012 by gabby2011 because: (no reason given)

Um you are aware that I am also against homosexuality, I started this thread.

Originally posted by PurpleSun
I love the how in the eyes of those who take the Bible as NEVER incorrect and ALWAYS right, that me being a lesbian is ok in the eyes of God as long as we don't do any sexual acts. The Bible SPECIFICALLY says a "man shall not lay with another man" or "lay with a man as he does a woman" - SPECIFICALLY gives instruction for men...and yet NO WHERE does it say that a woman cannot lay with another woman.

I say that and the people in my church go "well, it means...." to which I say..."no no no....you can't have it both ways".

NO WHERE does it say that a woman cannot be with another woman and I defy anyone to show me a passage in the bible where it says that lesbians are sinners. It's impossible because in the original translations, it simply does not exist.

Please don't take this the wrong way. I am a Christian but I am not your judge. I am only a messenger, each person must follow what is in their heart to follow. I cannot convince anyone what is or is not a sin; it is up to you to decide. The bible says that willful acts of sin without repentance are what leads to the lake of fire. If you say that being homosexual is not a willful decision, I simply have to believe you. Only God knows the heart of a person.

The bible does say that women with women is shameful and a sin. Somehow many don’t know this but here is the verse.

Romans 1 26:-27
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.
Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Again I say that you must follow what you feel is right. The most important commands have and always will be love God with all your heart, mind and soul. And love your neighbor as yourself. Follow these commands and I believe that you will find Grace.

Although I do not agree with homosexuality, I am not you and I do not know what is in your heart. So I will not be your judge.

With love from your brother in Christ.

reply to post by PharohGnosis


Care to explain why you think homosexuality to be any of your business?

reply to post by PharohGnosis

Um you are aware that I am also against homosexuality, I started this thread.

I realize that.. I was just adding to what you were replying to destiny one..

I think what you said.. was really full of common sense..so I added to it.. with my own versions.

I'm sorry if you could not see that clearly..

*sighs*.. I really don't like misunderstandings.. I hope it is cleared up now?

Originally posted by sacgamer25

Originally posted by PurpleSun

Originally posted by markosity1973

you're welcome! it is just as important for Christians to be educated on what God hates as much as what He loves. It's horrible for people to call themselves a Christian and they don't even know what's in their bible that they swear by.

Are you for real?

The word CHRISTIANITY and HATE are not compatible my dear.

edit on 29-1-2012 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)

don't take it out on me, take your beliefs out on scripture: Proverbs 6:16. According to His word, He does hate. That's not my opinion, that's a fact for anyone to read.

What does God hate? Those that oppose love.

It is because he is love that he opposes anything that is not love.

Christianity and hate are not compatible, is a true statement. We are not the judge, we are instructed to only do that which is loving, and leave all judgment to the father. If we do anything other than love, than we do that which he hates.

edit on 29-1-2012 by sacgamer25 because: (no reason given)

Sorry bro, this is your own personal opinion.
Thankfully God gave us his word on the subject.

Originally posted by PurpleSun

Originally posted by DanielET

Originally posted by MJZoo
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

 

"God" created them but them obviously chose to be homosexual. I know that I have had absolute say in exactly what I find attractive. I once thought I found black hair attractive but then I was like NO, black is the color of death and I refuse to be attracted to black hair. So I forced myself to be attracted to brunettes.

You don't choose to be gay. You are born that way.

I was attracted to other boys from a very young age. Around the age of 6 or 7. My grandma knew there was something different about me from when I was a toddler that she could never quite put her finger on.

How does a 6 or 7 year old boy "choose to be gay"? He doesn't!

He was born gay

One might not choose who they are attracted to, but there are MANY conscious decisions involved with CHOOSING to have sex with someone, therefore it IS a choice. Many people in jail are not "gay" and yet they choose to have homosexual sex. So while someone may not be in control of who they are attracted to, I'm sick of the argument that who they have sex with isn't a choice. The only time it's not your choice to have sex with someone is if you are raped.

You are smart for someone, who if that is your picture, is so young. Sex, unless you are raped is always a choice. Here is a good one for everyone; the bible says that the one who can ignore the desire for sex has done better than the one who submits to it. For the one that stays unmarried and without sex is more capable of serving God. It is only those of us whose desire for sex is too strong to refuse that should be married.

Sex is always a choice, and we can choose not to do it. I have not chosen this path but I do believe that I could.

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Really where in the bible are YOU INSTRUCTED TO DO ANYTHING BUT LOVE?

I would really like you to show me this.

reply to post by sacgamer25

What does God hate? Those that oppose love.

Those that oppose Gods way of love..and that does not include condoning sexual perversity..as well as other things.

God tells us to love the sinner, but hate the sin.

Tell you what.. if you ever see a gang of thugs beating up your 12 year old.. you just go out there and tell them all how much you love them..ok? See how far that goes on helping your son who is laying there beaten and bruised.

..and when your mom gets scammed out of the last bit of money she has to last her for her retirement, you go tell the ones responsible who make a living off of doing this daily to any poor old helpless victim they can manipulate.. how much you love them...and God is all about love.. then walk away.. while they mock and laugh at you , and prepare to scam you next.

Yes God is about love.. but don't forget His righteousness..and don't forget His just justice ..because THAT IS LOVE as well.

Originally posted by Garfee
reply to post by PharohGnosis

 

Care to explain why you think homosexuality to be any of your business?

That question gets you a star my friend. Isn't that the question we should all ask. Honestly even if i beleive someone is sinning, if they do not what does Jesus tell me to do?

Dust your feet off and walk away. Amazing how many Christians don't listen to Jesus.

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Really where in the bible are YOU INSTRUCTED TO DO ANYTHING BUT LOVE? I would really like you to show me this.

warning people of how sin will effect their lives is LOVE !!!

If your child goes and knocks over a younger kid off his bike and takes it.. are you going to sit there.. and just watch..because you love him?

NO !!!.. You are going to in no uncertain terms tell him that is very wrong.. tell him to say sorry to the other child, and give the bike back, and explain to him, why and how that is very offensive....because you LOVE your child..and don't want him to hurt others.

reply to post by sacgamer25

Dust your feet off and walk away. Amazing how many Christians don't listen to Jesus.

I dare you to practice what you preach.. when someone sins against you or someone you love...

Originally posted by gabby2011
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What does God hate? Those that oppose love.

Those that oppose Gods way of love..and that does not include condoning sexual perversity..as well as other things.

God tells us to love the sinner, but hate the sin.

Tell you what.. if you ever see a gang of thugs beating up your 12 year old.. you just go out there and tell them all how much you love them..ok? See how far that goes on helping your son who is laying there beaten and bruised.

..and when your mom gets scammed out of the last bit of money she has to last her for her retirement, you go tell the ones responsible who make a living off of doing this daily to any poor old helpless victim they can manipulate.. how much you love them...and God is all about love.. then walk away.. while they mock and laugh at you , and prepare to scam you next.

Yes God is about love.. but don't forget His righteousness..and don't forget His just justice ..because THAT IS LOVE as well.

God says that I should turn the other cheek when I face persecution and hate.

He also says that he loves, disciples and protects his children from evil.

Being made in his image I imagine I have the same right, and responsibility to my children.

This was not a good argument against what I said.

Where in the bible exactly did God tell you to hate the sin of someone else? He does say you should hate yourself and your sin.

Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by sacgamer25

 

Dust your feet off and walk away. Amazing how many Christians don't listen to Jesus.

I dare you to practice what you preach.. when someone sins against you or someone you love...

Again as I just posted,

Not one verse in the bible says anything about me not protecting the ones I love. What is says is to love those that sin against me and hate me.

I have a right, an obligation to protect my children from evil.