Judge Has [not] Ruled, Obama [not] Off Of Ballot In Georgia! (erroneous news report)

reply to post by candcantiques


We'll see when the time comes.... I'm gonna call BS till I see this actually take place.

Originally posted by Shadowalker

Originally posted by freedom12
This is a picture of Obama's dad arriving in Hawaii for the first time with with a few fellow Kenyans.

What is his future father-in-law doing in the picture with him? I ask this because, Barack's mother, Ann Dunham, had not met Barack's father yet.

Can anyone explain this?


Maybe it can help answer questions about Barack's past?




Sorry, forgot to add Barack's father is the one with the leis around his neck with someone holding up the "peace" sign behind him. Stanley Dunham is to the right of him(as u view the pic) in the white plain short-sleeved shirt.

edit on 26-1-2012 by freedom12 because: (no reason given)

Keep digging grasshopper.

The train will pull into uglyville very soon........

Just asking.


No one has been able to answer this question for me. I know Stanley Dunham was a furniture dealer, who at some point moved to Hawaii. Why would a "furniture dealer" be greeting foreign students from Kenya at a Hawaiian airport? Especially his future son-in-law a father of Barack Obama?

Supposedly, Ann Dunham met Barack's father in a Russian language class a U of H. If Ann's father already knew Barack Sr, was it a chance meeting?

Originally posted by getreadyalready
So, the question becomes, Why haven't they done exactly that? In 3 years? Prior to this re-election?

Because 1: Obama's birth was not legally in question. There were voters (whom did not like him for a range of personal and political reasons) who questioned his birth, but legally his eligibility was not in question, not by SCOTUS, not by congress, not by the electoral college. The question of eligibility in the constitution is and has always been left up to congress and the Electoral college on December 15th of confirmation.

As for congress declaring him a natural born citizen, on what grounds do you believe this will change the minds of birthers? Until Obama leaves office, the questions will not stop. PThere are people just don't like him, you cannot change that.

They've gone to the trouble of releasing BC that just stirred more controversy. They've gone to the trouble of having Hawaii officially declared as his birthplace.

So now you're blaming them for releasing the birth certificate, after all the time that birthers demanded he just release it to end all this? Hmmm.

There is something holding up the simplicity of the process. There is SOMETHING TO HIDE!

So his birth certificate didn't change your mind, confirmation from Hawaii didn't change your mind, you believe, as with other birthers, that there is some big government conspiracy behind all this? Ah, this is a conspiracy forum, I keep on forgetting.

Hhahahahahaha and now that I've taken a look at the site yeah I'm definently calling BS on this. Pathetic.

reply to post by r3axion

If it is owned by the United States Military it is United States Property. The "soil" per say is still foreign territory HOWEVER the hospital that McCain was born in was United States Military PROPERTY and the housing he lived in was United States Military PROPERTY. McCain was born on US military property to TWO US citizens.

Coco Solo was a United States Navy submarine base established in 1918 on the Atlantic Ocean (northwest) side of the Panama Canal Zone, near Colón, Panama.

United States Senator John McCain was born in 1936 at a small Navy hospital[1][2] at Coco Solo Naval Air Station.[3][4]
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Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
I'm a little tired of people using the "backwoods racists" excuse.

Yes yes. We know. And I'm sure the 42-49% approval rating for the president is because 47-54% of America are backwoods racists, right?

I'm not calling or indicating anyone is racist.

But to deny racism and religion isn't part of the hatred of Obama is denial itself.

Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

I just called a friend of mine. I asked him about Birth on a host base. He said , the baby is only a Natural Born Citizen if BOTH parents are citizens of the United States and born in a US base / US Naval vessel. This also must be filed with the embassy or consulate within one year of the baby being born.

If the baby is born outside of the Military base , or to a foreign parent. The Baby has dual citizenship and is NOT a Natural citizen.

I will continue to look for a source i can post so you can see it.

edit on 26-1-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

I just got done having a conversation with two friends of mine, the other day, who's child was born, on the US base in Naples Italy. They said that their son is a US citizen, but also qualifies for dual citizenship now, but yes they must file with the consulate and the document from the consulate.

Great info.

LOL this judge is about to retire.




nothing funny about this. Goodbye.

reply to post by candcantiques


Correct, military property, but foreign bases are subject to foreign law

reply to post by milkyway12


Actually most of the little island bases we took without asking or paying.

And the canal zone was purchased, from the French.

reply to post by freedom12


You ask a great question about a very telling picture. Lot's of stories about how Barack Sr. came to this country to study and just as many about his alleged relationship and marriage to Anne Dunham.

Her father had quite the connections for being just a "furniture salesman" He was also very close to a very controversial and self proclaimed pedophile Frank Marshall Davis. Who was a mentor to Barack in his formative years in Hawaii. Do a quick search on the book Davis wrote as a documentary of sorts about the sexual trysts he and his wife had with minors.

Plenty of bizarre connections for a humble family living in HI.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
I'm a little tired of people using the "backwoods racists" excuse.

Yes yes. We know. And I'm sure the 42-49% approval rating for the president is because 47-54% of America are backwoods racists, right?

I'm not calling or indicating anyone is racist.

But to deny racism and religion isn't part of the hatred of Obama is denial itself.

and unfortunately,

it is part of the hatred generated by Obama supporters too.

His "class warfare" suggestions agenda is one very big example unfortunately.

Originally posted by jacklondonmiller

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl

Originally posted by jacklondonmiller
These backwoods idiots are simply amazing, as big government as they come,
they get to determine who people can vote for, two men make that decision for
the whole state of people.

Or,....perhaps somthing called the Constitution tells us who is eligible to run for president, and finally someone has looked at the definition of "natural born citizen"...

Thats BS, these scumbags have been do this all over the country for three years.
They are fascists, misusing their power like they own the entire process of voting
in America.

SCUM

Waaaa, waaaa, waaaa, Need a hankie?

Let's discuss "fascism", shall we? Oh, no, wait - you'd have to comprehend the term before you could discuss it, and in that you appear to fail, given the nature of this whiny rant that has no meat in it.

So then, your guy can do as he damn well pleases, flaunt and ignore the system, but that's ok... but if someone else calls him on that, and puts some teeth in their argument, THEY are "fascist"?

Waaaa, waaaa, waaaa. Need a hankie?

reply to post by candcantiques


Oh...OK...so the OP claim is based on something a birther told another birther that a 3rd birther said was "ABSOLUTELY FACT"???

The Judge decided to let the attorneys know how he was going to rule BEFORE the trial started?

Given the failed credibility of these folks you might prepare yourself for dissapointment and/or embarrassment assuming you are capable of such.

Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by mrlqban
reply to post by Southern Guardian

 

Congress only has the power to create naturalization laws, it does not have the power to make anyone a natural born citizen; that is reserved for article II section I, unless of course the constitution is amended.

This is true, unfortunately in McCain's case. But seriously, his parents were serving his country, I think in all fairness he held the right just as any of the other candidates to run for the presidency. So while technically he wasn't constitutionally natural born, I'm pritty sure there would be minimal objection to an exception to be made for him and all foreign born children of military serving American parents.

You are missing the whole point here...To make an "exception" is to shred the Constitution and pull the middle finger to the founding fathers. The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land. If U.S. Law is not followed then we will not have a Republic my friend. There are many U.S. citizens such as senators, lawyers, judges, men of good values in this country that are not natural born citizens.

Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
I'm a little tired of people using the "backwoods racists" excuse.

Yes yes. We know. And I'm sure the 42-49% approval rating for the president is because 47-54% of America are backwoods racists, right?

I'm not calling or indicating anyone is racist.

But to deny racism and religion isn't part of the hatred of Obama is denial itself.

and unfortunately,

it is part of the hatred generated by Obama supporters too.

His "class warfare" suggestions agenda is one very big example unfortunately.

Fully agree - - it does go both ways.

But to deny many still believe he is Muslim - - is ludicrous.

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by freedom12

 

You ask a great question about a very telling picture. Lot's of stories about how Barack Sr. came to this country to study and just as many about his alleged relationship and marriage to Anne Dunham.

Her father had quite the connections for being just a "furniture salesman" He was also very close to a very controversial and self proclaimed pedophile Frank Marshall Davis. Who was a mentor to Barack in his formative years in Hawaii. Do a quick search on the book Davis wrote as a documentary of sorts about the sexual trysts he and his wife had with minors.

Plenty of bizarre connections for a humble family living in HI.

Brings up another question.

was Obama an "abused" victim ?

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
I'm a little tired of people using the "backwoods racists" excuse.

Yes yes. We know. And I'm sure the 42-49% approval rating for the president is because 47-54% of America are backwoods racists, right?

I'm not calling or indicating anyone is racist.

But to deny racism and religion isn't part of the hatred of Obama is denial itself.

and unfortunately,

it is part of the hatred generated by Obama supporters too.

His "class warfare" suggestions agenda is one very big example unfortunately.

Fully agree - - it does go both ways.

But to deny many still believe he is Muslim - - is ludicrous.

Many think he was a "Muslim" under the Soetoro (or whatever it was) name.

In Indonesia and maybe even in the U.S. as a foreign student.

I can't seem to find the filing for this in court. Meaning the lawsuit submitted by the attorney or case number.

Does anyone have the links or case/docket number?

Very important to validate this information.

reply to post by SpaDe_


I live in Montana and if this IS true we Montanans will surely work on it here!