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Originally posted by kawika
reply to post by Annee
Annee,
If you google
Congress research office and vetting of obama you will get about 851000 hits.
Pick the source you like.
Go get em. A report was published by the congress research office to help the congressmen and women explain to angry citizens what happened with the vetting.
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by candcantiques
No ..... you are very wrong. The only places in other countries that are "American soil" are embassies and consulates. Military bases are leased by the host country ...
Stop wearing "Deny Ignorance" as a slogan if you are ignorant.edit on 26-1-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by freedom12
This is a picture of Obama's dad arriving in Hawaii for the first time with with a few fellow Kenyans.
What is his future father-in-law doing in the picture with him? I ask this because, Barack's mother, Ann Dunham, had not met Barack's father yet.
Can anyone explain this?
Maybe it can help answer questions about Barack's past?
Sorry, forgot to add Barack's father is the one with the leis around his neck with someone holding up the "peace" sign behind him. Stanley Dunham is to the right of him(as u view the pic) in the white plain short-sleeved shirt.edit on 26-1-2012 by freedom12 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by Furbs
Source - www.state.gov...
c. Birth on U.S. Military Base Outside of the United States or Birth on
U.S. Embassy or Consulate Premises Abroad:
(1) Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad
and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities abroad are not part of
the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A
child born on the premises of such a facility is not born in the
United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of
birth.
(2) The status of diplomatic and consular premises arises from the
rules of law relating to immunity from the prescriptive and
enforcement jurisdiction of the receiving State; the premises are
not part of the territory of the United States of America.
(See Restatement (Third) of Foreign Relations Law, Vol. 1, Sec.
466, Comment a and c (1987). See also, Persinger v. Iran, 729
F.2d 835 (D.C. Cir. 1984).edit on 26-1-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by getreadyalready
Wait wait wait ... it doesnt matter about what? The presidency?
edit on 26-1-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
John McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).[2] At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control.[3]
Originally posted by kawika
You will find the answer here
Law of Nations
THe ebook is also easy to find. Ebook
It may take some reading to find the right part. In the old days to be considered educated one had to read many books. Now we just watch video's I think.
Before the Constitution the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,” written by Emerich de Vattel in 1758. In book one chapter 19,
§ 212. Of the citizens and natives.
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Actually a big part of this is simply that GA is po'd that the feds took them to court over the immigration law they past. Paybacks...
Originally posted by candcantiques
Breaking news folks. Obama refused to show up in court today and as a result the judge has decided to reccomend that Obamas name NOT be put on the ballot in the next Presidential election. The Georgia Secretary of State agrees with the court ruling and WILL NOT BE ALLOWING OBAMAS NAME ON THE BALLOT. That means that Obama will recieve ZERO popular vote and ZERO electoral votes from the state of Georgia. Find more on the story HERE---->
giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com...edit on 1/26/2012 by tothetenthpower because: --Mod Note--All Capsedit on 1-26-2012 by Springer because: corrected title
Originally posted by candcantiques
reply to post by Annee
You know, sometimes people need to do the digging and find out what the truth is BEFORE they speak, to wit
John McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).[2] At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control.[3]
John McCain born of TWO US citizens on US soiledit on 26-1-2012 by candcantiques because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by candcantiques
reply to post by Annee
You know, sometimes people need to do the digging and find out what the truth is BEFORE they speak, to wit
John McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).[2] At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control.[3]
John McCain born of TWO US citizens on US soiledit on 26-1-2012 by candcantiques because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Annee
McCain was not.
The ruling to make children of military born on foreign soil natural born citizens came after McCain was born - - not before.
Link please.
ETA: Aren't military bases the same as embassies? Own land in a foreign country?edit on 26-1-2012 by intrepid because: (no reason given)
Because the Canal Zone was a “no man’s land,” in the words of Representative
Sparkman, in 1937 Congress passed a statute, the Act of Aug. 4, 1937
(now codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1403(a)) granting citizenship to “[a]ny person
born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904” who had at least one
U.S. citizen parent. This Act made Senator McCain a U.S. citizen before his
first birthday. But again, to be a natural born citizen, one must be a citizen at
the moment of birth. Since Senator McCain became a citizen in his eleventh
month of life, he does not satisfy this criterion, is not a natural born citizen,
and thus is not “eligible to the Office of President.”
Of course, McCain’s lack of citizenship at birth is a technicality ne plus
ultra. Presidential candidates who obtained their citizenship after birth are
no more likely to be disloyal than those born citizens, and the people of the
United States should be allowed to elect whomever they choose. Therefore,
as a policy matter, Senator McCain should be eligible to be president. Yet
the text of the Constitution forbids it.