Judge Has [not] Ruled, Obama [not] Off Of Ballot In Georgia! (erroneous news report)

reply to post by candcantiques


Then he has NOT decided until he posts them. Is this not true? For now .. the court has still not made a decision until he addresses the court with his decision , that Obama is found in contempt , and the ruling is defaulted , or a criminal suit is filed. (Which it wont be , Obama does not have to show up) but he does HAVE to provide legal representation or else the judgement is defaulted.

Slow down folks! SOS Kemp will be the one to decide to take Obama off the ballot. It mostly likely will not happen until the Judge officially renders his decision. I haven't got the date for that yet. OrlyTaitz's website: giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com... is currently says that will be February 5, yeah right - on a Sunday

If you want a great account of how it played out today, blow-by-blow:

www.thenationalpatriot.com...

this information is very pertinent to the outcome of the case from above link:

Over the last several weeks, Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski, had attempted several tactics to keep this case from moving forward. He first tried to have it dismissed, then argued that it was irrelevant to Obama. After that, Jablonski argued that a state could not, under the law, determine who would or would not be on a ballot and later, that Obama was simply too busy with the duties of office to appear.

After all these arguments were dispatched by the Georgia Court, Jablonski, in desperation, wrote to the Georgia Secretary of State attempting to place Obama above the law and declared that the case was not to he heard and neither he nor his client would participate.


Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, fired back a letter hours later telling Jablonski he was free to abandon the case and not participate but that he would do so at his and his clients peril.

something interesting here about the plaintiffs presenting all the evidence in the event of an appeal.

www.therightsideoflife.com...

ObamaBallotChallenge.com reports on a statement given by one of the ballot challenge Plaintiffs, Carl Swensson:

..............We argued that all the evidence needed to be entered in to record so the Judge allowed for a speedy hearing where all evidence was entered into the court record. What that means is this… Any appeal, if one is even possible, would be based on the evidence provided by the lawyers in each case. Both Van Irion and My lawyer, Mark Hatfield made certain that our cases and evidence in those two cases would be closed so as not to be affiliated, in any way, with “Birther” Orly Taitz. As expected, she was an embarrassment.

Anyone familiar with these cases understands why they don't want their cases associated with Orly Taitz. Talking about throwing a monkey wrench in the works, she could do it.

The only way Obama will be on the ballot is if the SOS disagrees with the findings of the judge.
SOS Kemp is republican, not that it should matter, but we all know how things roll with party affiliations, not always fairly.

It's nice to know the President is not allowed to be above the law (some of the time).

Judge has NOT ruled, and won't until February 5 (so says the local news, who is covering it).

Dunno who the clown is who authored this blog post without FACTS to back it up. And that so many people seem to buy.

reply to post by guohua


all of my information is here--> giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com...

So if the senate makes a ruling that Obama is Natural Born in regards to the Minor vs. Harpersett case.

Does the GA suit get thrown?

reply to post by ga-`tv-gi


It bugs me when they say things like "they claim he is not a citizen".

No they did not. Of course he is a citizen.

But "who's his daddy", that is the question.

Why is everyone still confused about this?

Not that complicated....

Originally posted by Infra_red
And if everyone here is so up in arms about Obama's father, you had better take a look at where George Romney was born.....Mexico. Look under same link at eligibility challenges. This has got to be one of the most tired threads on ATS, so much so that I get tired of seeing it still AFTER ALMOST 4 YEARS. This country has enough problems.......

It does not matter where someone parents are born, it only matter if they were U.S. citizens at the time their child is born. You are getting tired because you are not paying attention.

reply to post by kawika


Obama is A CITIZEN of the United States of America. People need to realize , you must be a Natural Born citizen , to run for the president of the United States.

My question is whether he is Natural .. or not. If he his .. good job .. he sucks as president .. if not .. then he should go to jail.

Either way , has no real impact with the elections so close .. unless he gets reelected , and i don't think he will regardless.

Especially with this Audit showing he spent 16 Trillion - estimated (so far) , or loaned 16 trillion US dollars to banks and companies. (AUDIT is still taking place). 16 Trillion in 3 years , 2007 - 2010. (Hearsay , but researched reports from bloomburg , confirm.)

reply to post by Liquesence


The judge HAS ruled it just has not been published. Please go back one page and READ

Links appreciated but......

I have seen that letter, it means nothing in legal terms.

Unless there are official court stamped documents, docket numbers, summons, case filings, summaries and court protocol, then I call BS on the entire thing.

Not that I am sticking up for that arrogant dipstick Obama, but I want real proof not a letter anyone can cut and paste in word.

Originally posted by guohua

Originally posted by Realtruth
I can't seem to find the filing for this in court. Meaning the lawsuit submitted by the attorney or case number.

Does anyone have the links or case/docket number?

Very important to validate this information.

You might want to try these sites:
www.art2superpac.com...

www.art2superpac.com...

citizenwells.wordpress.com...
www.art2superpac.com...

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reply to post by Annee


No, Obama gets thrown from the ballot if they side with that....

Minor v Happersett

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

parents

I just realized that there is a strong correlation between the uptick in Birther buzz and the GOP prospects for 2012 declining with Newt and Mitt at eachothers throats to get a Nomination to an election that niether of them can win.

I don't know if these stories are just an outlet for frustration...or if they think the American public might buy this xenophic fantasy fiction.

Either way...as the GOP slides, the birthers rise...it's a socialogical phenomena.

And given that...2012 looks to be a year where all types of psuedo-racist, BS will be thrown into the circus by a desperate far right.

reply to post by milkyway12


It is not possible to be a natural born citizen if you are a citizen of two (2) countries at birth. At birth Obama was an American citizen AND a Kenyan citizen. Dual allegiance problem there. Cannot have a commander in chief with dual allegiance. Hence the Constitution denotes that the President MUST be a Natural Born Citizen OR a citizen at the time they wrote the Constitution. The framers made a CLEAR distinction.

Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by kawika

 

Obama is A CITIZEN of the United States of America. People need to realize , you must be a Natural Born citizen , to run for the president of the United States.

My question is whether he is Natural .. or not. If he his .. good job .. he sucks as president .. if not .. then he should go to jail.

They fixed McCain's - - ruled him Natural Born.

Do you really believe the US government is going to let their first official black president go down in flames?

Originally posted by Annee
So if the senate makes a ruling that Obama is Natural Born in regards to the Minor vs. Harpersett case.

Does the GA suit get thrown?

You mean the Supreme Court? Your question doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by milkyway12

Either way , has no real impact with the elections so close .. unless he gets reelected , and i don't think he will regardless.

Seriously, do you see his competition. Dumney and Girlswitch.

And the MSM is doing it's best to quash RP.

Sigh

Originally posted by Indigo5
I just realized that there is a strong correlation between the uptick in Birther buzz and the GOP prospects for 2012 declining with Newt and Mitt at eachothers throats to get a Nomination to an election that niether of them can win.

I don't know if these stories are just an outlet for frustration...or if they think the American public might buy this xenophic fantasy fiction.

Either way...as the GOP slides, the birthers rise...it's a socialogical phenomena.

And given that...2012 looks to be a year where all types of psuedo-racist, BS will be thrown into the circus by a desperate far right.

Off topic. Please refer to Article II section I. Excuse the interruption...

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Liquesence

 

Most of the media is complicit with this disaster of a POTUS.

You know, in this case i am not even arguing the media complicity thing.

If a judge rules something it is *generally* open record, and the media can't hide it (but they CAN fail to report it).

Bottom line: if it had been ruled already it would be elsewhere than this fringe birther blog.

Judge requested briefs to be filed by Feb 5, then he will decide, and nothing is of yet officially ruled.

reply to post by candcantiques


I know this. I posted the documents supporting that stature a while ago (that you cannot have dual citizenship , and be US president). It is on page 12ish i think.

Obama is an US citizen. The problem is , is he legally a Natural born citizen , or Naturalized and has he committed fraud to convince the public or law makers that he is a Natural born citizen.

Originally posted by Rren

Originally posted by intrepid
OK but will this stand up to a higher court? Say the Supreme Court?

Seriously doubt it...

Anyways, it seems the op has gotten some bad info -

Source:

Boycotting the hearing, the Chairman of the Democratic Party of Georgia, Mike Berlon, said in a statement that "it is well established that there is no issue here – a fact validated time and again by courts in this country. In light of these developments, the Democratic Party of Georgia has no plans to continue to be involved in these baseless cases."

Judge Mahili has deferred making a decision until February 5 when another hearing will take place.

Georgia's primary is March 6.

So for now, President Obama's name remains on the ballot and that Democrats can vote for him.

They also presented some of the ridiculous birther stuff (photoshopped BC and forged SSC). Obama will be on the ballot and win easily, imo.

You missed the blog post where Carl Swensson claimed, the Judge called the attorneys into his chambers before the court case and said he was going to go with the default ruling since the defendant and his attorney didn't show up.

That's where the OP got his information, but is it 100% legit? No proof there; however seems very believable.

As for the ridiculous birther stuff you claim, I happen to be a photoshop professional with 8 years experience. I'll tell you when the birth certificate came out, I downloaded it off the whitehouse website and looked at it in photoshop. It's 100% fake, and that is a fact.

The only thing ridiculous is your defiance to except any evidence.