God is Time

reply to post by Philodemus


Here's my take on the topic. It's difficult to word these arguments and concepts without running into logical fallacies and paradoxes, but I'll do my best.

I don't think time is god, necessarily. See, time itself is a man-made term, just like feet and inches. It would be akin to saying distance itself is god, or maybe width and height is god. Remember, time is the 4th dimension...so if God is the entirety of the 4th dimension, who's to say He/She/It doesn't extend to the previous three dimensions as well?

Also, man realized that events happen, days come and go, and things don't say the same. There is a perpetual state of progress and/or regression going on at all, times, and it encompasses all things. They realized they needed a term to cover this vast sense of progressing, progress that doesn't cover miles or weight, but instead....covers every passing moment. Time.

Time is a man-made word, for a natural force. And here is where I make my point. Time is a force of nature, existing outside of man but also affecting him, and it has been given a definition by man in a grasping bid to understand the universe, such as with the Greeks.

I think the more acurate statement would be...God is nature. But that includes not only time, but everything else as well.

Of course, that's just my opinion. But I decided it was a very interesting topic...not many people think so deeply, and I commend you for taking the time to delve into a logical and philosophical Wonderland. it's an amazing exercise, and I love to see people enjoying it.

You guys are welcome to have poke at my perspective on the matter.

Namaste

reply to post by Starchild23



Great explanation! I don't believe time is GOD. All other forces have mass/energy. Why dosnt time have that property? Time is a tool for man, created by man. Time is relative to distance & planetary revolutions.

Can someone explain how all forces have mass/energy
Except for time?
Or is it because time is not a force, but a creation from mans mind.

reply to post by thepupils


The only reason why anything is a 'thing' is because man likes to measure (and name). Mass has not been found as yet, they are still looking for the Higgs Boson.
There are no 'things' as such. There is this moment of reality but it can not be grasped.

Originally posted by absolutely
by definition when existence is objective fact it cant b but true

this pathetic insistence to mean things while ignoring objects facts as if there is nothing but subjective speculations wills is only to evil extent being moronism edge

Dew Yew exist? No!

Dew the molecules in your body exist? Yes!

Contradictions!

That's the way of the Universe, the way of God/Source!

The Universe is the Greatest Contradiction possible.

Ribbit

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ButtUglyToad

 

Have you ever experienced a 'time' when it was not now?
Everyone lives in the now, but not everyone knows it.

It is you who is lost in time - lost in mind made delusion.

How can SumThing live in the Now that is NOthing more than a figment of WE's Imagination?

You are Lost in Time!

Ribbit

reply to post by ButtUglyToad


Have you ever experienced a 'time' when it was not now?

Originally posted by thepupils
reply to post by Starchild23

 

Great explanation! I don't believe time is GOD. All other forces have mass/energy. Why dosnt time have that property? Time is a tool for man, created by man. Time is relative to distance & planetary revolutions.

Can someone explain how all forces have mass/energy
Except for time?
Or is it because time is not a force, but a creation from mans mind.

Both Space & Time have NO mass and they are separate Verses of this Three-Verse United-As-One-Verse Universe.

Imagine your skin Inverted being Space and the skin of God/Source.

Imagine your thoughts Inverted being Time and the thoughts of God/Source.

SumThing >< Inverted >< NOthing

Mass >< Inverted >< Massless

Space & Time are the only Three things that have no mass, everything else has mass.

As to Creation, Matter is the creation of God's/Source's Mind, which is this Spatial Verse of the Universe.

Ribbit

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ButtUglyToad

 

Have you ever experienced a 'time' when it was not now?

I've experienced all Three - Now, Then, & When and by understanding their Purpose, I have combined them into the One Present Moment in Time that the Me resides in currently and from IT, I toadily understand the truth about this thing you call Life.

I know that Me has existed many times in the Past.

I know that Me will exist many more times in the Future.

I know that Me exists in the current Present.

But Me is kNot eYe, for Me is Me and eYe is WE!

Ribbit

I always say that trying to understand God through words and concepts is like trying to understand colors by smelling.
To try to understand what God is you must first accept that concepts are illusions. A concept is a thought, an a thought can not be touched. Thoughts are illusions because they don't exist outside the mind. Thoughts, labels, concepts, judgements, they are all illusions. They don't have a physical existance. Time is a concept. So then what is God? God is a conceptualization of that unknown energy which is the source of all life. God is much deeper than a concept.
Before you can fully accept this I wll try to tackle your argument.

Why do we refer to time and God as "Father"?. I've asked myself this same question before, as well as why is the Earth called "Mother". From my perspective, all concepts are masculine because they come from the the part of the brain that rules the male sex. So concepts, such as God and time are given a masculine connotation. Things that are real, meaning that are physical and can be felt, such the Earth, are femenine, because feeling is associated with the part of the brain that dictates femenine behavior.

God is refered to as the Alpha and the Omega to signify his timelessness. The best way to describe God's relation to time is that God is of no time and exists at all times.

More than a fascination with time, our culture has a deep fascination with resisting time. And this is just a sympton of an even deeper challenge that humanity is facing. This fascination is the material manifestation of our deep identification with concepts . Or better said, humanity's deeply rooted identification with an illusion, their thoughts.
If time was God, then we would be saved right now, because we're focused on it 24/7.

My interpretation of god is the following:
God is the energy of life. Yet, it isn't that either. Words are meaningless, feelings and perceptions are the only thing that matters because they do exist.
God can not be described by words, so he can never be conceptualized. The only way to know God is by feeling God. Yes, God is feeling. To quote Jesus, Buddha, and many other spiritual gurus throughout history "God is Love"

Originally posted by omarm1984
I always say that trying to understand God through words and concepts is like trying to understand colors by smelling.
To try to understand what God is you must first accept that concepts are illusions. A concept is a thought, an a thought can not be touched. Thoughts are illusions because they don't exist outside the mind. Thoughts, labels, concepts, judgements, they are all illusions. They don't have a physical existance. Time is a concept. So then what is God? God is a conceptualization of that unknown energy which is the source of all life. God is much deeper than a concept.
Before you can fully accept this I wll try to tackle your argument.

Why do we refer to time and God as "Father"?. I've asked myself this same question before, as well as why is the Earth called "Mother". From my perspective, all concepts are masculine because they come from the the part of the brain that rules the male sex. So concepts, such as God and time are given a masculine connotation. Things that are real, meaning that are physical and can be felt, such the Earth, are femenine, because feeling is associated with the part of the brain that dictates femenine behavior.

God is refered to as the Alpha and the Omega to signify his timelessness. The best way to describe God's relation to time is that God is of no time and exists at all times.

More than a fascination with time, our culture has a deep fascination with resisting time. And this is just a sympton of an even deeper challenge that humanity is facing. This fascination is the material manifestation of our deep identification with concepts . Or better said, humanity's deeply rooted identification with an illusion, their thoughts.
If time was God, then we would be saved right now, because we're focused on it 24/7.

My interpretation of god is the following:
God is the energy of life. Yet, it isn't that either. Words are meaningless, feelings and perceptions are the only thing that matters because they do exist.
God can not be described by words, so he can never be conceptualized. The only way to know God is by feeling God. Yes, God is feeling. To quote Jesus, Buddha, and many other spiritual gurus throughout history "God is Love"

Your werds R full of Truths and full of Fallicies.

Did U know that when U have a thoUght, U generate Magnetic Energy with your mYnd? Energy can toUch U but U cannot toUch IT.

Feelings & Perceptions are both of thoUght, yet you say thoUght doesn't exist outside the mYnd but Feelings & Perceptions dew exist. U contradicted yourself.

To quote the Toad:

"God/Source is Everything; Time is God/Source in Motion; Thought is Time in Motion; Logic is Thought in Motion; Love is Logic in Motion; Life is Love in Motion; Math is Life/Numbers in Motion." - Old Toad Proverb

Ribbit

the thing is that concepts and thoughts are real, ,. and time then is real as well.,. if you are born, changes on many levels will take place, an expanse of change called life...

now this earth is a playground for the mind, and body...

if a man conceptualizes a car, and then creates it,., using materials, measurements, and other tools..
it is real.. and it takes an expanse of moments for it to actualize.,,. it is not instant,. not as instant as thoughts can be,,.

the problem is we are coming from a bias point of view being limited to our given nature of man, and our mind is figuring our that it is limitless, that it has the same creative properties as the whole,., and that it can use understanding,., input as knowledge and out put as action, computation.,. to change its nature...

we evolved out of the muck of this earth, there was a time we would have been thrilled to be a toad looking down upon a fly... but now we are man, ashamed of this ghastly nature,, looking up to our infinite potential,, and looking in at the quantum physical mechanics that make up material, and the whole of reality.,.,.

it is extremely complex,, elements, particles, chemical reactions, energies, temperatures, infinite range in scale... and it is what we are given to react with, no other choice, then to start here, our choice is where should we end up.

double post

reply to post by ButtUglyToad

It is not your thoughts that are creating the magnetic field, it is the feeling that the thoughts arise in you.

Can a cow have a thought?
Can a cow perceive and feel?

Perceiving through thought is not total awareness. You CAN feel and perceive without judgements and labeling. try it

Originally posted by ImaFungi


the thing is that concepts and thoughts are real, ,. and time then is real as well.,. if you are born, changes on many levels will take place, an expanse of change called life...

now this earth is a playground for the mind, and body...

if a man conceptualizes a car, and then creates it,., using materials, measurements, and other tools..
it is real.. and it takes an expanse of moments for it to actualize.,,. it is not instant,. not as instant as thoughts can be,,.

the problem is we are coming from a bias point of view being limited to our given nature of man, and our mind is figuring our that it is limitless, that it has the same creative properties as the whole,., and that it can use understanding,., input as knowledge and out put as action, computation.,. to change its nature...

we evolved out of the muck of this earth, there was a time we would have been thrilled to be a toad

looking down upon a fly... but now we are man, ashamed of this ghastly nature,, looking up to our infinite potential,, and looking in at the quantum physical mechanics that make up material, and the whole of reality.,.,.

it is extremely complex,, elements, particles, chemical reactions, energies, temperatures, infinite range in scale... and it is what we are given to react with, no other choice, then to start here, our choice is where should we end up.

If "earth is a playground, a sandbox, for the mind and body" for We here, then what is the Universe?

Answer: The Sandbox of WE!

There are 3 Realities of Me:

1. Conceptual
2. Perceptual
3. Physical

Only the Physical is Real.

Ribbit

Originally posted by omarm1984
reply to post by ButtUglyToad

 

It is not your thoughts that are creating the magnetic field, it is the feeling that the thoughts arise in you.

Can a cow have a thought?
Can a cow perceive and feel?

Perceiving through thought is not total awareness. You CAN feel and perceive without judgements and labeling. try it

Incorrect! The Energy created is from the Flow of thoUght, like the Energy created in the Universe is the Flow of Universal Thought.

God/Source Thinks and Time happens!

Ribbit

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad


If "earth is a playground, a sandbox, for the mind and body" for We here, then what is the Universe?

Answer: The Sandbox of WE!

There are 3 Realities of Me:

1. Conceptual
2. Perceptual
3. Physical

Only the Physical is Real.

Ribbit

only the physical is real because it can be interpreted and expressed by and through the physical universe?

what i was trying to express is the fact that we live as humans, in a tiny point of a large evolution.. and the modern rate of our evolution is blurring the edges of physical, conceptual, and perceptual...

reply to post by ImaFungi


it seems to me like you are not worried about your human nature because you believe you are, have always been, and will always be, under the guide of the all intelligent universe? do you believe your spirit is here collecting energy to use in other realities, scales, or ways? i dont know if we deserve that, i dont know if i in infinite time could create perfect geometric patterns, or atomic systems, or energy relationships, lol in this human form it is kind of a sandbox or kiddy pool of being godly, of learning of the consequences of actions, interactions, emotional energies,..

what i mean that deserve is what have we done so great for the whole of the universe? what can we do? what we do here on earth in our form is destroy the surrounding work of millennia... because of our selfishness. only because we fear we will not have eternal life through the intelligent work of the universe,, we put all our efforts towards seeking it in our own means technologically;

Originally posted by omarm1984
reply to post by ButtUglyToad

 

It is not your thoughts that are creating the magnetic field, it is the feeling that the thoughts arise in you.

Can a cow have a thought?
Can a cow perceive and feel?

Perceiving through thought is not total awareness. You CAN feel and perceive without judgements and labeling. try it

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and since when a cow is a reference to thinking skills? when all humans are proving not being using their brains to think any, and especially u, how or is that why cows now are the conscious species right

if only one human is right then humans condition is evil living source
this is much way proven for cows

reply to post by absolutely


How come you are you, and not a cow?

did you choose to be born you?

does a cow choose to be born?

This is a response to anyone who thinks that Time is Linear. If one studies the Accretion Disc of a Black Hole...a clear picture of How Time Becomes Relative and How Time Passage is different. These are proofs of Time being Non-linear. Split Infinity