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Originally posted by Starchild23
I also am convinced that acting out of the kindness of your heart purely (or largely) for the benefit of your own speculative afterlife is, to a certain degree, morally depraved.
That is not true kindness. It is investment in the security of one's own soul through selfishly committed favors, which shows not a heart of gold, but a money sign wearing a hero's cape.
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by jonnywhite
reply to post by thepupils
How do you know that we transition to something else?
Are you arguing that we convert to a non-lifeform? That we lose our intelligence?
Or are you saying that our intelligence is kept but our body is lost?
I don't see why this should be true.
What about a boulder that's split in two? What happened to the original boulder? Does the original boulder "die" and go to heaven? Does it become a ghostly boulder and wander the earth like an apparition?
Why must humans live forever? What about frogs? What about mice? What about bats? There're millions of species to choose from. Probably many many more over the length of life's time on planet earth. I read that rain forests are like incubators and that several species go extinct every few days when they're cut down.
I want to live forever too. Anybody would. But we have to be reasonable. My own opinion is that we don't live forever, but it's not needed since my thinking is we live forever through our children and others.
We don't focus on the similarities between people enough or the changes a eternal person would go through. If you examine these two things, you begin to see that we live forever through each other.
My word is not gospel. I just wonder why you think what you think? What leads you to believe that the thoughts that inhabit our brain are somehow re-translated after death into a lasting form of light? That this light carries with it the holographic aura of our mind, our memories, our opinions? That we rejoin eternity?
Because I think you're doing what we're all doing. You're coping with mortality!edit on 30-1-2012 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)
If you want someone to prove that the soul has an intelligence of its own, and leaves the body after death to wander an astral plan until reincarnation, then I want you to prove that it DOESN'T.
Don't argue with a theory unless you've got a solidly proven theory of your own. It is known as obstinacy, and does nothing in the way of education, besides block growth.
Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
Thought is an action. The act of processing. It could be considered a force...in fact, recent studies suggest it has a certain force to it, capable of effecting the world.
But right now, it is simply an action processing impressions and emotions. It is a movement of the neurons, a trigger of the synapses. It is not like time, which is only comprehensible in part by man. It is not like distance, which predates man but was given a name by man, and exists without life or force.
Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
Interesting theory. Allow me to file it away in this cabinet reserved for scrapped ideas...
You may as well say we're all brains in a jar. I'll give you this much though: it's only slightly more whacked than the reptilian Bush theories.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
Thought is an action. The act of processing. It could be considered a force...in fact, recent studies suggest it has a certain force to it, capable of effecting the world.
But right now, it is simply an action processing impressions and emotions. It is a movement of the neurons, a trigger of the synapses. It is not like time, which is only comprehensible in part by man. It is not like distance, which predates man but was given a name by man, and exists without life or force.
You are missing IT! Thought happens whether you want it to or kNot! What is driving IT? TIME!
The other day I had a very weird experience. Many peeps want to disconnect from the world and have only their thoughts in their head, no outside interference. What happened to me was the exact opposite. I was sitting in MacDonalds, using the Free WiFi, when I disconnected from Me and all I heard was everyone else and I couldn't stop it. It almost made me puke! I've seen it shown in movies where the person could only hear everything around them but kNot their own thoughts. It's a strange experience to experience and kNot one I'd like to repeat.
Also, another thing you need to understand is that yew occupy Space, but displace atmosphere and the two are kNot synonymous. Space flows THRU yew at all times and you cannot shield against IT! And Time is linked with Space, sewn into the very fabric of Space, that's why Time links All as One.
Ribbit
You may as well say we're all brains in a jar. I'll give you this much though: it's only slightly more whacked than the reptilian Bush theories.
Time is a dimension of measurement, not a force. If you think you're smarter than physics professors, then you should have a lecture to attend...
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
The no mind state is pretty scary to begin with because it is not 'normal'. Most people never see or hear the real world because they live inside their heads. Contracted into a small cramped mind.
Those thoughts aren't even yours as you say they just happen. Why only stay inside the little box when there is vast space?edit on 31-1-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Iamschist
reply to post by Starchild23
You may as well say we're all brains in a jar. I'll give you this much though: it's only slightly more whacked than the reptilian Bush theories.
I be in the jar marked A-nony-mous
Originally posted by Iamschist
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
during my "ahem" development, i lost my mind, well i knew where it was, hovering in the back of my skull, shivering like the coward it is. nobody was driving the bus as it were. fun. found self saying things that made me clap hands over metaphysical mouth. shut up needless to say. the feeling of not being in control is indeed unpleasant, but is it not our true state?
Originally posted by Iamschist
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
would say thank God for time but that would be silly and redundant, yes? as in dealing with everything all at once.