Senator Paul is being detained at the Nashville Airport by the TSA

Originally posted by getreadyalready
It still helps Ron Paul.

If a Senator can be detained, then the intrusiveness of our Government, and the complete and total erosion of our liberties, and the lack of any common sense of enforcement officials becomes very apparent.

Ron is the only one up on the Republican stage fighting to RESTORE LIBERTY.

Also, it goes to show that Rand Paul is flying commercial. He is a regular guy, as is Ron. I guarantee you'll never see Romney or Santorum flying Coach!

I'm sorry, are your senators above the law? Regardless of the facts of this (I'm going to make a guess at political grandstanding), do you think senators should be allowed to pass through checkpoints so easily?

reply to post by PaxVeritas


Who controls TSA,,, CIA,,NSA, and all the other , GOV.
departments,
Someone knew he was comming,,,right,?
,are they not ,,"wired" into the Other Realm,,,survalence etc,,,

Make long story short, OBAMA ordered it.
He hates the CONTROLS in PLACE,, but can do nothing about it,,
as the dirt/truth/ would be made available, too certain Deep Pockets,, lol
So Obama makes an END RUN ,,around his controlers,,
and viola! Its now in the COURTS !

Me.

hows that for a sandbox

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by PaxVeritas

 

You keep saying words like 'official', yet the "OFFICIAL" government Twitter accounts say nothing.

So again, you have not yet provided any PROOF that Ron or Rand Paul THEMSELVES started the line that Rand was detained.

I will keep asking for proof as long as you talk on this thread, since you have not provided such.

You're really NOT getting it are ya?

You have NO clue about Social Media sites.

Trust me, I've run Marketing campaigns on these formats.

You're not 'getting my drift" so I'm gonna drag this out until you think outside your sad little box.

Keep going, I can do this all day.

I don't have a clue about social media sites???

You are the one that claimed these accounts were probably just one made by a supporter...when they are clearly their official sites.

Here...let me clue you in on something...most senators and representatives have two accounts. One is for their government position...and one is for campaigning or personal use. I wouldn't expect them to post something like this on their official government account. That is for informing about upcoming legislation, votes, etc.

Are you continuing to deny that these are in fact official facebook and twitter accounts for Rand and Ron Paul???

Are you going to provide proof for your assertions that Ron and Rand PERSONALLY started a story of 'detention' to get media attention?

I can KEEP going ALLLLLL DAYYYY until you do.

Do you understand?

I'm pretty sure the TSA's motto is: "billions of dollars spent, no terrorists caught! "

reply to post by something wicked


Yes.

And I don't think it makes them above the law. If they break the law, they should face the same consequences, but the TSA isn't any law. The TSA is just trying to weed out potential terrorists and protect the passengers.

Is a Senator a hijacking risk? That is the question. Is there any reason to search a Senator?

could this be how tyhey go after Ron Paul? go after his family? heard he was tweeting to his face book. went there at 1:36 p.m. eastern and the site was blocking everything on his page but his pic. anyone else experience this?

We don't have the full story of what happened yet.

That's all.

reply to post by PaxVeritas


You can keep going all day if you like...but you are the only one denying that these are Ron and Rand Pauls official accounts.

I'm starting to feel embarressed for you.

You have dug yourself into a hole...and now you are too deep and can't climb out...so the only option is to keep digging.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I am no supporter of TSA, that's for sure. I refuse to fly. I know Rand doesn't have that option in this case, but should they have let him board?
Maybe he should have gotten to the airport earlier.

I agree totally this is a unique case, and the first one I know of where a sitting government official on their way to an official government function of any kind...much less a Senate vote has missed a plane because of TSA. However, Senators often have their schedules so booked it isn't practical to get there early.

IDK what is going to come of this. An update to the report I posted from the Huffington Post earlier says Paul was indeed "escorted" by local police from the screening area. I didn't take that to mean the police were trying to help a US Senator out of a bad situation either. Paul has publicly stated many times,,,as many others have too that TSA spends way too much time on people who couldn't possible be terrorists.

So then what? Does racial profiling come back into play? Maybe TSA should be better trained.
No....they definitely should be better trained. They may well have not even known who Rand Paul was. My personal opinion about TSA in it's current form though should be scrapped completely. And something else come up with.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by PaxVeritas

 

You can keep going all day if you like...but you are the only one denying that these are Ron and Rand Pauls official accounts.

I'm starting to feel embarressed for you.

You have dug yourself into a hole...and now you are too deep and can't climb out...so the only option is to keep digging.

Nope, so far you have not provided any proof that Ron Paul or Rand Paul PERSONALLY started the story that Rand was being "detained".

Feel 'embarressssssed' for me all you want. I'm going to keep asking for your proof every time you post on this thread or respond to me.

Now please provide PROOF of your assertions.

reply to post by andy1972


LOL...

Well personally, if he was trying to BEARD an airplane......

"Air Israel", from the movie "Airplane!"

reply to post by webpirate


"Maybe TSA should be better trained."
Well if they at least knew the CONSTITUTION,
then they would not be part of the LEGAL ACTION,
would they?


Charge DETAINING a STATE SENATOR from performing his Legally Obligated Duty.

A TSA Employee ,, tramppled upon... the United States Constitution today.
and TSA Police
or were they STATE Police,, ?
Backed there move ,,in a scene reminisent of "old Syle Chicago Politics"
and it wasn't even valentines day,,,
lol
you know as a Lawyer ,, getting STATEMENTS and NAMES,,

Originally posted by webpirate
Maybe TSA should be better trained.No....they definitely should be better trained.

They tried better training about 70 years ago, that did'nt work out well either..although it was probably better.

reply to post by Jobeycool


and what "attacks" were you reffering to that we're being protected from?

CSPAN has reaired this

I've only read up to page 7 of this thread, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned.

The CNN article says he wanted to go through the scanner again, but they refused to let him and instead wanted to give him the pat down, which he refused.

Why didn't they just let him go through again? It's a fair while since I travelled on a plane, & maybe things have changed dramatically, but when you went through the scanner & it detected something, it was very normal to just say, "Oops, I forgot to take my keys out of my pocket", so you'd remove they keys & go through again - no alarm - problem solved.

Why wouldn't they just let him go through again?

reply to post by BobAthome


It's not knowing the Constitution and the laws so much as it is having common sense. I've seen burger flippers at McDonald's with more common sense than many TSA agents.

Remember...they aren't even "police." They are only screeners. They themselves have no arrest authority, but they can prevent you from boarding a plane. They are basically rent a cops who are charged with protecting US air travelers from terrorists.
SO far...I don't think they have actually stopped anyone who had an intentional unlawful item with the intent to use it. The FBI has claimed they have. But TSA really hasn't. I seriously doubt TSA would have even been able to prevent 9-11 from happening had they existed then.

I have the feeling though this incident today is gonna bring about some type of change as far as the current system operates. Or it really should.

reply to post by Toffeeapple


Just to clarify:

Oops, I forgot to take my keys out of my pocket", so you'd remove they keys & go through again - no alarm - problem solved.

Why wouldn't they just let him go through again?

You refer to the "metal detectors", there.

The story from BNA (Nashville) is that he was passing through the full-body scanner.....the one that is so controversial. The "naked" scanner, shows a picture of the body sans clothing.

IIRC, even the acknowledged that it was a "processing glitch" that showed up as an anomaly in the image.

And, to Sen. Paul's credit.....NO one should have to undergo an unnecessary physical search simply due to a computer flaw or glitch. A re-screen is a perfectly logical alternative.

But "logic" and "TSA" seem to be mutually exclusive terms in many cases.

reply to post by webpirate


Under our "Charter of Rights and Freedoms" (Thanks Pierre )


"have no arrest authority, but they can prevent you"

Detaining and arrest, is not seperate entity,
in the eyes of the Law,, under a Supreme God,,,under our Charter. of Rights and Freedoms.

Problem solved.

reply to post by PaxVeritas


Let me get some clarification from you.

Are you denying that Rand Paul and Ron Paul said that Rand Paul was detained???


A simple yes or no will suffice.