Senator Paul is being detained at the Nashville Airport by the TSA

reply to post by OutKast Searcher

Shouldn't everyone be cheering that they are holding US Senators to the same standards as everyday Americans???

Or maybe instead we should all be booing that Americans are submitted to such Orwellian unconstitutional searches in the first place.

I get treated like a prison bitch every time I go through TSA. Military, with orders, government ID.
It means nothing!

Welcome to MY house Senator!

Sucks, don't it, Rand?

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by PaxVeritas
Yet nobody has any PROOF that Ron Paul himself or Rand Paul himself said they were detained.

One source if a Facebook Page out of DOZENS that are created for Ron Paul, by volunteers, or staffers.

The other is a Twitter account, which like Facebook has DOZENS of "Ron Paul" related accounts.

Yet the official Ron Paul and Rand Paul #REP and #SEN Twitter accounts say nothing.

So again, NO PROOF that Ron or Rand said ANYTHING about being detained.

OH GOOD LORD.

Go to Ron Paul's twitter account I linked...you see the little blue check mark...hover over it...it says "VERIFIED ACCOUNT". Better yet...got to Ron Paul's campaign page, www.ronpaul2012.com... , and click on the twitter icon in the top right of the page...it brings you to this same account.

Or maybe that isn't really his official campaign website either right...just some random supporter who set it up.


I don't know why you are trying to deny this...that was Ron Paul's tweet on his official campaign twitter account.


And here...here is Rand Paul's website and you can find a link to his facebook page...same one that says he was "detained'. www.randpaul2010.com...


I don't know what else to do for you...you are in denial and are actively denying facts and reality.

reply to post by Unlimitedpossibilities

Originally posted by Unlimitedpossibilities
So please enlighten me as to how this does NOT violate the constitution.

He was not arrested, detained or questioned.

He was denied entry into the secure area for refusing to comply to TSA standards.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Go to Ron Paul's twitter account I linked...you see the little blue check mark...hover over it...it says "VERIFIED ACCOUNT".

Now, you know he's not responsible for that stuff! He didn't write it and he doesn't know who wrote it. He's been busy.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


In case you're unaware....

de·tain (Verb)
Verb:
Keep (someone) in official custody, typically for questioning about a crime or in politically sensitive situations.
Keep (someone) from proceeding; hold back.

reply to post by Unlimitedpossibilities

Originally posted by Unlimitedpossibilities
Rand Paul had two obligations today: speech and the senate.

The U.S. Constitution actually protects federal lawmakers from detention while they’re on the way to the Capital.
“The Senators and Representatives…shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same….” according to Article I, Section 6.

The Senate is back in session today at 2 p.m., with votes scheduled at 4:30 p.m. It is not clear if Paul will make it to Washington by 4:30 p.m. on his new flight.

abcnews.go.com...

From his Facebook page:

Today I will speak to the March for Life in Washington DC. A nation cannot long endure without respect for the fundamental right to Life. Our Liberty depends on it.

www.facebook.com...

So please enlighten me as to how this does NOT violate the constitution.

Save your breath. Some in this thread wont agree no matter how plain it is...

It's a good example why the Constitution is now largely meaningless....

Coffin v. Coffin

In considering this article, it appears to me that the privilege secured by it is not so much the privilege of the house as an organized body, as of each individual member composing it, who is entitled to this privilege, even against the declared will of the house. For he does not hold this privilege at the pleasure of the house; but derives it from the will of the people, expressed in the constitution, which is paramount to the will of either or both branches of the legislature. In this respect the privilege here secured resembles other privileges attached to each member by another part of the constitution, by which he is exempted from arrests on mesne (or original) process, during his going to, returning from, or attending the general court. Of these privileges, thus secured to each member, he cannot be deprived, by a resolve of the house, or by an act of the legislature.

These privileges are thus secured, not with the intention of protecting the members against prosecutions for their own benefit, but to support the rights of the people, by enabling their representatives to execute the functions of their office without fear of prosecutions, civil or criminal. I therefore think that the article ought not to be construed strictly, but liberally, that the full design of it may be answered. I will not confine it to delivering an opinion, uttering a speech, or haranguing in debate; but will extend it to the giving of a vote, to the making of a written report, and to every other act resulting from the nature, and in the execution, of the office: and I would define the article, as securing to every member exemption from prosecution, for every thing said or done by him, as a representative, in the exercise of the functions of that office; without enquiring whether the exercise was regular according to the rules of the house, or irregular and against their rules. I do not confine the member to his place in the house; and I am satisfied that there are cases, in which he is entitled to this privilege, when not within the walls of the representatives' chamber.

My first post in this thread
I think everyone, no matter which side of the fence you are on, should wait until more details come out.

in my opinion (facts are just as debated) rand and ron paul should use a mobile home to travel from place to place. i have traveled by means of the open road and it is really fun, i'm working on converting an old Winnebago to hydrogen hey pauls wanna ride?

reply to post by freedom12


Wow that is really telling. The article states he refused a full pat down after an anomaly showed up on the body scan. So perhaps the TSA were told to try and hold him any which way. i'm sure the "anomaly" was invented.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Wrong.

On the RON PAUL 2012 site it was 'reported' by a guy named "Jack Hunter". Who writes for and blogs for the campaign site.

www.ronpaul2012.com...

He reported it from a Politico writer named Mathew Boyle who writes for POLITICO

dailycaller.com...://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/report-tsa-detains-sen -rand-paul-in-nashville/#ixzz1kITr6W4m

Who was reporting on a Tweet from a Rand Paul staff member named Moira Bagley.

twitter.com...#!/moirabagley/status/161463071724945408

reply to post by getreadyalready


Respectfully Getready,

Law enforcement agencies get special exemptions because they are emergency response.

Senators are not. Just the thought is amusing.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
My first post in this thread
I think everyone, no matter which side of the fence you are on, should wait until more details come out.

The details are out.

He refused a pat down. He was escorted out of the security check area. He bought another ticket for another flight, went through security again, and boarded his flight.

The facebook and tweets about being "detained" were just sensational drama from Rand and Ron.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Unlimitedpossibilities

 

Originally posted by Unlimitedpossibilities
So please enlighten me as to how this does NOT violate the constitution.

He was not arrested, detained or questioned.

He was denied entry into the secure area for refusing to comply to TSA standards.

Absurd how you behave. The size of your typeface wont make it any more true.

“Passengers, as in this case, who refuse to comply with security procedures are denied access to the secure gate area. He was escorted out of the screening area by local law enforcement.”

Why was an escort required in the "non-secured" area"?

Also, do you happen to know what "questioned" means in a legal context?

Of course you don't.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
My first post in this thread
I think everyone, no matter which side of the fence you are on, should wait until more details come out.

The details are out.

He refused a pat down. He was escorted out of the security check area. He bought another ticket for another flight, went through security again, and boarded his flight.

The facebook and tweets about being "detained" were just sensational drama from Rand and Ron.

Still cannot come up with any proof that Ron or Rand Tweeted or Facebooked about Rand being detained?

reply to post by PaxVeritas


LOL...just give it up...Ron and Rand are drama queens and put messages out that he was detained.

They are drama queens and they posted mis-leading information.

We are all aware how the Paul's tend to have things written in their name that they like to deny...so just as his supporters say...at least he is consistent.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by PaxVeritas

 

LOL...just give it up...Ron and Rand are drama queens and put messages out that he was detained.

They are drama queens and they posted mis-leading information.

We are all aware how the Paul's tend to have things written in their name that they like to deny...so just as his supporters say...at least he is consistent.

So you're saying you cannot provide any proof that Ron or Rand themselves started the story?

reply to post by rockoperawriter

Originally posted by rockoperawriter
in my opinion (facts are just as debated) ron paul should use a mobile home to travel from place to place. i have traveled by means of the open road and it is really fun, i'm working on converting an old Winnebago to hydrogen hey ron paul wanna ride?

What would be the point?

reply to post by PaxVeritas

Still cannot come up with any proof that Ron or Rand Tweeted or Facebooked about Rand being detained?

LOL, what proof do you want? A video of them physically typing the letters???


It is on their official facebook/twitter pages...why can't you admit that they in fact are the ones that said he was "detained"???

Is it because you think it would be ridiculous for them to say such a thing??? Because it was ridiculous for them to say it...but the facts are facts. No need to deny reality to perserve your image of the people you support.

Originally posted by Mcupobob
Which Paul is being detained? Rand or Ron?

Either way I hope it gets cleared up and the situation doesn't escalate.

I can see escalation as a GOOD THING.... Unless your trying to quiet this outrage so as to deny the point Ron Paul has been trying to drive home.This needs to be in the lime light, screutanizet in the light of day