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Perhaps. You have an alternative though?
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by beezzer
Perhaps. You have an alternative though?
I just offered that alternative and that was that We the People begin policing an out of control federal government and cleaning up our own back yard, at the very least, first. Perhaps your sanctimonious "realism" could not recognize that.
The problem is that there are so many definitions of "clean" that regardless of the "cleaning" we do, it'll never be enough.
Realism isn't sanctimoniuos.
Realism just "is".
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Zanti Misfit
I'd love to hear a realistic option other than America doing all the heavy lifting.
I personally feel as though it's not something we want to do, or look forward to doing, but something that has to be done.
Let people police themselves?
Brilliant!
How far would you take it?
Taiwan? None of my damned business, give it back to China.
S. Korea? Give back to N Korea.
Israel? You're on your own, pal.
Europe? Sorry, the russian bear scares me.
Islam? Let's give sharia a chance, eh?
Where do you DRAW THE LINE?
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Geez , enough with Splitting Hares already ! .............
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Let All those you just mentioned Settle their Differences themselves without the U.S. Interfearing is not Out of the Question . Once they See we are staying out of the Fight , they just might be Forced to be More Agreeable with eachother out of Necessity . If things get out of hand with some of them , then Maybe we step In , but to be there All the Time as a " Safety Net " is just not Viable for us Anymore . Sooner or Later America will Burn itself out continuing to be the Peace Enforcer of the World , we owe it to Ourselves to Preserve our Peace too .
lol the whole premise of this is thread is to trigger that fear mechanism into agreeing with pre-emptive actions/war based off of our countries apparent ability to predict the future...US/Israel predict the use of nuclear weapons by Iran...so really this should be in the predictions thread.
They said this they said that, they are mean people they stone people over there still!! as if our police officers aren't doing equally if not more severe things to people who commit crimes over here...
I don't agree with pre-emptive war, pre-emtive arrest because I don't believe people can predict the future well enough to justify such an asinine concept as such...
This thread is crap and the only one with balls ins't me replying but the OP for posting...
Originally posted by SyphonX
Hip-hip Hooray! To the Warmonger rally!
Really, you people are disgraceful human beings, and an absolute shame to the country you represent. ('cept for Beezer up there, he warmongers from the safety of Europe now!)
edit on 17-1-2012 by SyphonX because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SyphonX
Tell me again, who has armies surrounding Iran, and has 2 carrier groups in the Strait?
September 19, 2005,The statement says that North Korea “stated that it has the right to peaceful uses of nuclear energy” and that the other parties “expressed their respect and agreed to discuss, at an appropriate time, the subject of the provision” of a light-water nuclear power reactor to Pyongyang. This issue had been controversial during the negotiations and the final agreement was the result of a compromise between Washington and Pyongyang. North Korea insisted that the statement recognize its right to a peaceful nuclear energy program and commit the other participants to provide it with light-water reactors while the United States argued that North Korea should not receive any nuclear reactors.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
The relationship between the US and Iran is very much like that of a man who raises a puppy and abuses it horribly until one day it grows old enough and realizes it can bite the man and run away.
We need to reopen relations and trade with Iran. We need to treat them with the same respect we treat any other nation. We might even want to think about paying them reparations to begin the process,..
The best way to prevent future aggression by other countries is to stop creating enemies through insane foreign policy and make them interdependent through trade.