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Nuclear weapons are arms, genius. If you want to play games of semantics perhaps you should start out in the beginners level and not embarrass yourself here with the adults. No governing body has any lawful authority to define militia any other way than it was defined at the time the Second Amendment was written. This is the law. Ignorantia juris non excusat!
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Nuclear weapons are arms, genius. If you want to play games of semantics perhaps you should start out in the beginners level and not embarrass yourself here with the adults. No governing body has any lawful authority to define militia any other way than it was defined at the time the Second Amendment was written. This is the law. Ignorantia juris non excusat!
Wrong, it is illegal to own nuclear weapons. I have proven it.
Originally posted by seabag
This is in response to the thread by Rigel4 (apparently it has been removed)
I am not a warmonger but that is the title given to everybody who supports removing threats in the world. Having enough sense to remove a threat before it hurts you makes perfect sense to me. I do NOT believe in destroying Iran, nuking Iran, killing Iranian civilians or destroying Iran's infrastructure. I DO want its nuclear program wiped out completely and its future nuclear activities monitored. I would be very happy if they would simply comply now and war could be avoided. As long as they don't get nuclear weapons I'll be happy....but that makes me a warmonger to some.
People who support Iran typically only do so because they hate America and the west. These people will support ANYTHING that goes against America, so why would supporting Iran be any different. The reasons I often hear in defense of Iran are: America kills people indiscriminately, America only fights wars for oil, America should mind its own business (as if nuclear threat isn’t our business), Iran has never started a war with any country, Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons because America does, Iran is a peaceful nation, Iran would never use a nuke even if they had one, Iran just wants nuclear energy (which is why they’re building reactors underground), etc, etc. Really??
You have proven nothing other than your own willful ignorance, which I suspect is more affected than genuine,
as what you seem to want to do is derail this thread and have an argument about who can own nuclear weapons.
That does not bode well for you.
Hey, you are the one who said civilians can own nukes. I was just denying ignorance.
Originally posted by Edgecrusher26
Originally posted by seabag
This is in response to the thread by Rigel4 (apparently it has been removed)
I am not a warmonger but that is the title given to everybody who supports removing threats in the world. Having enough sense to remove a threat before it hurts you makes perfect sense to me. I do NOT believe in destroying Iran, nuking Iran, killing Iranian civilians or destroying Iran's infrastructure. I DO want its nuclear program wiped out completely and its future nuclear activities monitored. I would be very happy if they would simply comply now and war could be avoided. As long as they don't get nuclear weapons I'll be happy....but that makes me a warmonger to some.
People who support Iran typically only do so because they hate America and the west. These people will support ANYTHING that goes against America, so why would supporting Iran be any different. The reasons I often hear in defense of Iran are: America kills people indiscriminately, America only fights wars for oil, America should mind its own business (as if nuclear threat isn’t our business), Iran has never started a war with any country, Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons because America does, Iran is a peaceful nation, Iran would never use a nuke even if they had one, Iran just wants nuclear energy (which is why they’re building reactors underground), etc, etc. Really??
Blah Blah Blah dude.
I fully support Iran, and it's not because i hate America or even dislike it ( much).
Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons and reactors, most other countries have the technology, so why are we excluding Iran from the party?
Just because they hate America?
Israel hates Palestine with a passion, and has nuclear capabilities, so why is it that Israel has not used Nuclear bombs to blast Palestine into the ground?
Having nuclear capabilities does not necessarily mean they are going to use them against America just because they hate them, it means that when countries like America threaten Iranian way of life, Iran will have the weapons to fight back.
In my opinion Iran having nuclear technology will mean that less countries will get the impression they can just be walked over - Its a defensive tactic, not an offensive one.
I am all for them coming into the age of Nuclear technology, If America and others can possess them, why not Iran?
Its very hypocritical of America to say Iran should not be allowed to have Nuclear technology because they will use it inappropriately when America are the only country to drop an atom bomb on anyone.
America is still producing nuclear weapons. Why when they were so irresponsible during World War 2?
Attempting to define We the People as "civilians" reveals quite a bit about you and your position.
Upholding ignorance as the new normal is not denying ignorance. Living in denial about your own ignorance is not what is meant by deny ignorance.
Originally posted by Bicent76
Einstein's science is not for everyone.. I am sure if Einstein being alive in 2012, being Jewish, would be Madder then hell knowing Iranians that want to see his race wiped off the face of the earth, is trying to unravel his science..
I am Bicent76..
Originally posted by WozaMeathed
What i get from this thread is................................
Kill kill die die to all those other than america and israel that want to posses nuclear capabilities, lets kill them before they kill us ect ect.
What a crock of s**t this thread is, and its filled with many hypocrites.
This isnt just a warmongering thread its also a fearmongering thread.
You poor scared paranoid americans. How do you sleep at night when there are so many boogiemen in the world that are out to get you.
What i get from this thread is................................
Kill kill die die to all those other than america and israel that want to posses nuclear capabilities, lets kill them before they kill us ect ect.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by Edgecrusher26
Edgecrusher, you need to do some research on Iran's politics. They are governed by their religion. Their religion is their politics and until you understand what there religion is and what it means to THEM, what their religion tells them they should do and how they should do it, you don't have a clue what this whole uproar is really about.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Originally posted by Bicent76
Einstein's science is not for everyone.. I am sure if Einstein being alive in 2012, being Jewish, would be Madder then hell knowing Iranians that want to see his race wiped off the face of the earth, is trying to unravel his science..
I am Bicent76..
You are a clown.
Trying to use Einstein to prove your point.
Einstein was more against Israel and its leaders than any posters on this site.
To the point of calling Israel a Fascist State.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
We need to reopen relations and trade with Iran. We need to treat them with the same respect we treat any other nation. We might even want to think about paying them reparations to begin the process,..
Why do I say this?
Because I love America and I want to see us prosperous and safe.
The best way to prevent future aggression by other countries is to stop creating enemies through insane foreign policy and make them interdependent through trade.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Learn the history of US/Iranian "relations" and you'll understand both why they despise us and why they are controlled by a theocratic government.
Many other countries who don;t like the US own nuclear weapons - why don;t they nuke us?
Same reason Iran wouldn;t even if they had them - they're not suicidal.
We need to reopen relations and trade with Iran. We need to treat them with the same respect we treat any other nation. We might even want to think about paying them reparations to begin the process,..
Why do I say this?
Because I love America and I want to see us prosperous and safe.
The best way to prevent future aggression by other countries is to stop creating enemies through insane foreign policy and make them interdependent through trade.
Blah Blah Blah dude.
I fully support Iran, and it's not because i hate America or even dislike it ( much).
Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons and reactors, most other countries have the technology, so why are we excluding Iran from the party?
Israel hates Palestine with a passion, and has nuclear capabilities, so why is it that Israel has not used Nuclear bombs to blast Palestine into the ground?
Having nuclear capabilities does not necessarily mean they are going to use them against America just because they hate them, it means that when countries like America threaten Iranian way of life, Iran will have the weapons to fight back.
I am all for them coming into the age of Nuclear technology, If America and others can possess them, why not Iran?
Its very hypocritical of America to say Iran should not be allowed to have Nuclear technology because they will use it inappropriately when America are the only country to drop an atom bomb on anyone.
America is still producing nuclear weapons. Why when they were so irresponsible during World War 2?
Once again, you obviously don't understand their theology. You do know where the term "martyr" comes from don't you? Which country do you hear using it the most?
martyr Look up martyr at Dictionary.com O.E., from L.L., from Gk. martyr, earlier martys (gen. martyros) in Christian use "martyr," lit. "witness," probably related to mermera "care, trouble," from mermairein "be anxious or thoughtful," from PIE *(s)mrtu- (cf. Skt. smarati "remember," L. memor "mindful;" see memory). Adopted directly into most Germanic languages, but O.N. substituted native formation pislarvattr, lit. "torture-witness." Related: Martyred. Martyr complex "exaggerated desire for self-sacrifice" is attested from 1931.