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Originally posted by LazloFarnsworth
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Agreed. As a trademark and copyright holder for nearly 40 years....Im fullly willing and able to support the free internet.
We never imagined there would be a day that when we put out a CD or write a new book...that BECAUSE its out there....people can and will access it, modify it, change and cut and paste it...without our consent or approval.
Thats all it ever was anyway...a means of how and who, would use our works.
We see a day now where once a creation hits the net...itself....becomes "free". How all this will pan out down the road...Ive not a clue. But Im willing to share the future and all the means developing, for exposing our creations to the world.
Rest assured...it will never go back to the restrictions that copyrights has on usage. And I OWN many myself!
Thanks for listening!
edit on 9-1-2012 by LazloFarnsworth because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by nenothtu
FYI: The non-circumvention aspect of the SOPA bill is written in such a loose and broad manner that your post could qualify as the type of content that could get the entire abovetopsecret.com domain blocked without warning or recourse other than a 90 day review process.
Originally posted by H0n3yb33
Of course they want to mandate what Americans do online..less "revolution" less "violent" protesting.Let's just take us back to the dark ages why don't you? the last thing the government wants is more people using their brains.
Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by nenothtu
FYI: The non-circumvention aspect of the SOPA bill is written in such a loose and broad manner that your post could qualify as the type of content that could get the entire abovetopsecret.com domain blocked without warning or recourse other than a 90 day review process.
I realized that after reading up on it, but I also know that it's not illegal yet, and am confident the post can be made to disappear and be replaced with an "off topic" banner in the event that it IS made illegal. A the same time, I believe that if it's made illegal, most ATSers will have more on their plates at the moment than merely reading that post...
BTW, considering that it can also be considered as speech against the government (given the unfavorable comparisons of the US government to those of China and Iran), I'm willing to quit my job and camp out at the Supreme Court until THAT case is heard - you know, the one that violates not only the spirit but also the letter of the First Amendment.
edit on 2012/1/9 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jeichelberg
Originally posted by Klassified
Anyone with an average IQ, and one moment of clear analytical thought can see this is one more step toward the Orwellian nightmare, and has absolutely zilch to do with piracy. The "digital age" is ALL about control. The "digital age" makes it possible to finally bring the totalitarian control grid online. And they are wringing their hands with excitement and glee at the prospect.
Yet, here you are engaged in the "core," and miraculously "out-of-pocket..."
Piracy btw, is exacerbated and perpetrated by the very corporations supposedly fighting against it. All the movies, music, and software that are to be found online through various outlets "illegitimately" are not there by mistake or theft.
This is like saying fires are set by fire fighters...or computer viruses are written by programmers from Symantec or McAfee...perhaps this is true, but it takes a lot more than your unsupported claims....please provide CLEAR EXAMPLES...
"Piracy" benefits those industries, and is making them richer, and more powerful by the minute. Which is the very reason they themselves perpetuate it.
Again...Where is the PROOF of these claims?
Think about it.
We are thinking, but what I really think right now, is that you just want everybody to take your word for it and not think at all...
Originally posted by Christosterone
Originally posted by satron
Forget ATS, it's going to kill the internet.
Surely no president would sign such legislation into law.
Although I do not know where our current president stands on this issue....
This is scary!!!
-Christosterone
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Obviously, all that also applies to any other user-generated content site, all of which are vital to free speech online.
Originally posted by aorAki
but to claim that it embraces free speech is laughable.
Originally posted by something wicked
You say the blacklist is 'stupid' but then say the sites it blocks are promoting child pornography? Is that stupid? I would like to think that is a good thing, wouldn't you?
UPDATE Back in May 2009, the Australian government put Wikileaks on its banned list. As of 29 November, according to ZDnet, this is no longer the case. "Currently, the ACMA list of prohibited URLs that is notified to accredited filter providers does not contain any URLs within the Wikileaks website," said the ACMA. "Since April 2010, the ACMA has investigated two complaints about specific pages of content on the Wikileaks website, which both resolved to content found to be not prohibited." Wikileaks hit the front pages this month, with a new release of government documents that show the inside goings-on of diplomacy in the US. In the dosuments our very own Prince Andrew is namechecked, as is the Governor of the Bank of England, Mervyn King. ORIGINAL STORY The Australian communications regulator has issued a stark warning that websites who link out to 'banned' hyperlinks are liable to fines of up to Aus $11,000 a day. The news comes after web forum Whirlpool was threatened with the fine for posting a hyperlink to a blacklisted anti-abortion website Wikileaks blacklisted One of the newest additions to Australia's 'blacklisted hyperlinks' list is Wikileaks; the website that publishes anonymous submissions of sensitive info on everything from corporations, religion and governments.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by aorAki
but to claim that it embraces free speech is laughable.
Is there any promise -- anywhere -- that free speech is "unfettered" speech?
Originally posted by aorAki
No, there isn't. But there also isn't any mention of the irony of protesting censorship whilst actively participating in it.
I have a transcript of a talk by Professor Reverend Lloyd Geering who claimed that any form of censorship was not a good idea and stood in the way of progress
However, by the same token, you are the site owner, so you can run it as you see fit...
SOPA initiates guilty until proven innocent. If a complaint we to result in an ATS blockage, we would first be blocked, then subject to a 90 day process to prove our innocence.