2012 End of World?

Ive been reading the post and alot of people been saying thing that go with the bible. Like the people will acheive enlightnment, in bible it says when you die you understand all, mortal minds are'nt capable of handalling that information. The earth will be cleensed with fire. There is lots more, lets face it were all screwed.

The Bible is partially right,, in old day's people who believed in their god, thought that only holy persons and priest people could achieve enlightenment, that is nog so, it is true that when you die...everything clears up. But you can go to the place were you go when you die, with astral travel...with astral travel the spirit leaves the body, you are only connected with a silver cort to your body...so in common sense, you are a ghost when you are in the astral,

www.spiritual.com.au...

this link will give you some info about what astral travel really is,
im not saying that you should believe what i am saying, every one has there own believes, and im just showing mine

About what you said '' that mortal people arn't able to handle the Huge amounts of info''

Mortal people can handle it perfectly, but in slow rate

and when you are practicing in astral travel, you will become more and more aware of things, and by that are able to handle things faster and more effectiffely (p.s. sorry about the BAD english, im from holland)

Originally posted by Starsky71
maybe they just calculated that haley's comet would hit earth on that exact day on that exact year
(...)

Oh well...

Halley's comet returns to "near earth" orbit every 76 years. It happened to be seen lately in 1910, then in 1986. So the next time will be 2062...

Think of another one. It is probably a better idea to forget about Halley's comet.

what ever is going to happen in 2012,

it will do humanity no harm,

i know the idea of a comet striking earth sounds cool and interresting,
but if it would, it would be published right away, mayB not by NASA or so..
but there enough people around the world with the equipment and money to search the stars.

and if aliens might come with bad intentions, well...we will just let them know YOU DONT WANNA MESS WITH HUMANS ,

but trust me, its wont do us any harm... the akashik records are sometimes wrong or are not understud in the right way.. but this one is sure

I agree with Green Eye. I don't think anything will happen. That said, I sometimes wonder that if enough people think something will happen, will it end up being a self fulfilling prophecy? I don't mean that if billions of people think we are going to get hit with a comet, that a comet would actually come out of no where and hit the earth, but what if Millions of people thought the end was coming so they did something stupid that starts a chain reaction.

Could some guy in france get so scared that it was the rapture, that he burns down his house which burns then next house, which burns a car...yadda yadda yadda... that gets to close to a nuclear reactor and starts a chain reaction of nuclear reactions.

I know I'm going to extremes, but I think there is more to self fulfilling prophecies and am scared to think what might happen when billions of people around the world think they're going to die on a certain day.

Plus, if people are right and it is on Dec 2012, I'm assuming it would start at the international time zone and circle around the globe the correct way.
(I'm being funny. don't get mad).

2012 End of World?

One word = YEP!

But it will be on December 12th not December 21st

[edit on 25-8-2005 by 12 12 2012]

Originally posted by PugMan
I agree with Green Eye. I don't think anything will happen. That said, I sometimes wonder that if enough people think something will happen, will it end up being a self fulfilling prophecy?

Remember the Y2K hysteria? You might not, but I was in the information technology sector then and working on the stuff, and you wouldn't believe the silly hysteria over something we knew would be a non-event.

Could some guy in france get so scared that it was the rapture, that he burns down his house which burns then next house, which burns a car...yadda yadda yadda... that gets to close to a nuclear reactor and starts a chain reaction of nuclear reactions.

In a word, no. You're forgetting social and technological advances like firefighters. And they don't build nuclear plants next to each other.

Remember, trouble at nuclear plants produces Chernobyl-like situations... not nuclear bombs.

I know I'm going to extremes, but I think there is more to self fulfilling prophecies and am scared to think what might happen when billions of people around the world think they're going to die on a certain day.

Go back and do some reading on Y2K if you're too young to remember it directly. We were trying to calm down the local city council over that one. What a mess.

In 1999, I found the hysteria amusing. My boss at the time was so concerned that he bought $100s of survival stuff, and I told him I thought that nothing was going to happen. How this relates to an ancient Mayan prediction is not clear to me, since the y2k thing was totally spontaneous and modern day people made it up. I think that the 13.0.0.0.0. Baktun date, 21122012, may just be an astronomical event, and no more. The Mayans say it is the first day of the new age, and what that means is unclear to me. That many ancients predict very similar timeframes and descriptions as them is clear though.

This may have been said but I'm not going to read through 12 pages of posts.

Anyway, when the christian calender was created there was some cock up reguarding leap years or somthing. This put us somthing like 4 years behind what we 'should be'. Does this end of the world date thing take that into account?

Originally posted by The Director
This may have been said but I'm not going to read through 12 pages of posts.

Anyway, when the christian calender was created there was some cock up reguarding leap years or somthing. This put us somthing like 4 years behind what we 'should be'. Does this end of the world date thing take that into account?

Yes, they did. There's no mismatch in the calendar.

It's still a load of hysteria.

Originally posted by BlackGuardXIII
In 1999, I found the hysteria amusing. My boss at the time was so concerned that he bought $100s of survival stuff, and I told him I thought that nothing was going to happen.

We had to certify watches. Someone had a load of *sand* (yes, good old dirt) certified. We had to have cars certified, etc, etc.

How this relates to an ancient Mayan prediction is not clear to me, since the y2k thing was totally spontaneous and modern day people made it up.

People are getting hysterical over this just as they did Y2K. And remember, this calendar date was totally made up by the Mayans.

I think that the 13.0.0.0.0. Baktun date, 21122012, may just be an astronomical event, and no more.

Eh, there'll be some astronomical events then but nothing you couldn't find on any good astronomy software.

Originally posted by Byrd

Eh, there'll be some astronomical events then but nothing you couldn't find on any good astronomy software.

Step right here please people!!!

They calculated astronomical cycles with inexplicable precision. Even very long ones like Venus's 580 year pattern and the precession of the equinoxes, and the distance to the moon, for example.
So I feel that the calendar they produced was not 'totally made up'. It is my opinion it was more likely observed, plotted, and recorded an astronomical cycle they found important. Which theory is right as to that cycle is beyond me, but I find the idea that they just picked a date out of the air, which the phrase 'totally made up' implies, hard to accept. In my view anyway.

Well, if the world is going to end in 2012, I figure I can quit worrying about trivia like Social Security and saving up for retirement. I'll just kick back and enjoy the next 7 years like there's no tomorrow . Pity we'll just miss Christmas that year tho. Always liked Christmas.

Originally posted by joehayner


This is why I think the war is part of the NWO. Because the have to be picking up the pace. Not too many years left yet...

Okay I agree with this. The war is defintely part of NWO or some steps to the NWO, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

Hello everyone, I am new in this forum and have been reading your posts about the End of the World in 2012. It is an interesting subject.

I would like to say that everything is, in fact, changing constantly and also very fast. The speed of changes is everytime faster. Don´t you feel as if you had less time for this and that? Bad moments seem to last forever...

My personal opinion is that nothing dies but transforms.

We cannot deny that since not long ago, different "abnormal" events are taking place all over the world and spreading...Hurricanes, Fires, quakes, water shortage, tsunami, solar explossions, violence, etc. We always had these kind of events, I know. But it has become worse.
The weather is changing dramatically all over the world?
Isn´t it real that everthing is changing drastically?

I just wonder what we will come next? The eruption of a Supervolcan?

Thanks for reading.

the mayan calender ending at 2012

[ I just got this info ]

had to do with confusion.

mankind would be faced with so many options

the mayans could not figure out the outcome

and so ended the calender there.



well , I can't prove it, but it sounds pretty good if not the best answer to me...[ so far ]

I think I'll hang onto this concept for a while...

Couple of things here - I've heard their astrological prowess was somehow good enough to record comets with orbits of 40,000 years. Also that their calendar was more accurate than the Gregorian calendar - so ours was adjusted when the mistake was realised.

Regarding 2012 - this is a point when a whole series of cycles are said to coincide - not just a single event.

However, I've heard said that our sun is one of a group of stars known as the Plaedies (not sure on the spelling) that orbit a star called Alcyon.

Apparently Alcyon has a giant ring around it like Saturn - but insead of beign made of dust and rocks it's made of Photons - and it stretches was into space. As a consequence the stars that orbit Alcyon periodically have to travel through Photon belt.

This takes place around every 12 thousand years or so for our sun as far as I can figure it - which would equate with the Mayan period for a "Sun".

One of the claimed features of the event is the temporry disruption of light from the Sun reaching Earth. It could seem, apparently, as if the Sun has ceased to shine for a while - hence a new age of the Sun.

I've also heard said that the effect may differ according to whether the Sun passes through the photon belt before the Earth does - or the Earth precedes it. A possible effect mentioned is a florescence of the atmosphere which could have a considerable duration - so no darkness for a while.

As for a safe place to be when it happens - I'd go for anywhere that will remain largely unaffected by panic and civil disorder.

Picking up on somebody's question re a safe place to go - I once read that when the Earth is "destroyed" the only safe city will be the city built above the (mythical or legendary) subterranean city of Astroeth.

Currently there are two contenders for this spot. One is in South Amererica - can't say where - and the other is Perth in Western Australia.

At a garden in the hills West of Perth called Arulluen there is or used to be a roughly built stone garden feature like a small summer house. Above the door - cut in stone - is the name Astroeth. It's the only place on earth I've ever seen it!

Did the Mayans predict anything else that acutally happened?

Or are people just getting worked up because they can count to twelve and want to show off?