The only authentic UFO video I have ever seen

Originally posted by dilly1

You have no proof of any object flying 8000mhp,let alone a beam of light..lol... And stop with the wikipedia crap.

"People have claimed it going 25kmhp"?what???????

3 miles N of Arrey, N.M. [50 miles west of White Sands] , 10:30 a.m.
[Project Blue Book unknown]

--General Mills/Mogul balloon expert Charles B. Moore, while tracking a test balloon with a theodolite, made important UFO sighting with 4 Navy technicians, (Akers, Davidson, Fitzsimmons, Moorman). After tracking it across the sky, the whitish-silver, elliptical object, roughly 100 by 40 feet, disappeared in a sharp climb, calculated at 18,000 to 25,000 mph [5-7 miles/sec] , at an altitude estimated at 60 miles. At one point the UFO climbed about 25 miles in only 10 sec [or about 80 G's acceleration!!]. The object left no trail and was observed for about 1 minute.

And etc.

Consider White Sands, consider the entire area, at that time. That was nuclear central.

It does not seem strange to me that if you are going to see aliens, you might see them associated with mankind getting the bomb.

You say they are man made well how good is your history?

Does it go all the way back to India at the time of Rama, where they claim they had space ships, they fought a war with the moon, and had weapons of mass destruction?

If you want to put your faith in modern science then take a look at this simple little thing found from space.

A simple little thing like a land bridge, that is man made and spoken of in history as being 2 million years old by the same people who told the story of Rama and the flying ships or Vimana of India.

We don't have any evidence of Vimana, but darned if we didn't find a land bridge, that appears to be man made, that is very old, as described by the same texts.
Not just a little path way ether.

You can see it from space. Thats how they found it.

Adams Bridge

Oh sure you can say it is a natural formation, except it is made of things like stumps and rocks and looks man made if you want to be honest with yourself.

Science can't be honest about it because well it doesn't fit in with the rest of their story.

Just like UFOs don't fit in with the rest of their story.

Originally posted by gortex
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post by dilly1
My take is ALL Flying Objects are man made and we have no freakin right to know every item in the ski. Its man made get ove

What even the ones the were reported before we had the power of flight ?
Bit of a blinkered view you have there .

Really? Gortex. Really?

First, I can't even understand your "Anglish" , or is it english.
Explain it to me please. Obviously you understand me. Its only fair you dumb it down a bit for idiot human me to understand.

Oh and tell me what flying object in the sky isn't man made. And don't be childish ,by stating birds,bats,comets,shooting stars and asteroids. You know exactly what I am talking about.

And Don't be shy,, I type over 5000 characters and you type one freakin sentence. Sorry two.


C'mon!

reply to post by DelMarvel

post by DelMarvel
And how about the details of how this video was shot? Who, when, where?

Good question
More detail is needed as trying to research an anonymous video is dam near impossible , I have never heard of this video before nor the story that has been associated with it .

Originally posted by DelMarvel

Originally posted by Rocketman7
SO ok I am hearing a lot of naysayers.

So then why is there not a single copy of the original quality anywhere, yet the washed out copy is easily found?

I really don't understand this logic at all. If you have a high quality copy why don't YOU post it?

And how about the details of how this video was shot? Who, when, where?

It was leaked through the peer to peer network about 10 years ago, before TPTB were up to speed on intercepting possible security leaks.

As far as I know, it was a deliberate leak, to draw attention to the fact that national security in the modern world is at risk, because the Internet was not being adequately monitored, and the peer to peer network system, did not use servers, like web sites are easily monitored, because they use servers and they are owned by companies.

You now have the torrent system and it is tolerated simply because it uses trackers, which are servers which can be monitored.

The peer to peer network is now intercepted better than it was at that thime this video was leaked, and the network and the programs associated with that network are constantly under attack through any and all means and basically it is censored when previously it could not be.
And that is done covertly by Echelon, and 60,000 employees world wide and supercomputers which analyse all world wide coms and you know, all the rest of the intelligence goings on that governments might be interested in.

So it was a leaked video, without a history, except for a heresay history, and some idea of the terrain, and similar sighting of a similar craft in the same area.

So its not well documented but then since when did that matter? Look at the MJ12 website and you will see documentation up the ying yang including the head of the FBI saying that they never get to examine the crashed flying saucers whats up with that?
Here are some famous quotes for you if you want...
Famous quotes pdf

Originally posted by Rocketman7
In all my years of studying UFOlogy, and as a graphics expert, and with a great deal of knowledge of camera work, and lighting, and physics, this is the only video that has ever passed my test.
When I first discovered the video in Kazaa, where it was leaked years ago, it was quite high def.

edit on 12/29/2011 by 12m8keall2c because: fixed video code

I'm sorry to disappoint you Rocketman7 but this video is a CGI creation by artist Tony Milw
who uploaded the footage on March 12, 2007, check his video here. Better luck next time.
By the way the video was not leaked but copied by many and also discussed here.


Meet Tony Milw here and also google his name. And happy new year 2012.
www.hi5.com...

Camera was already pointed at object, not swung up after it appears. It "poses" for videographer, (from his point of view) then moves off and videographer just holds the view of nothing, instead of running to get a better view of it again., or generally freakin out.

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post by dilly1
First, I can't even understand your "Anglish" , or is it english.

First off its English with a capital E

post by dilly1
Explain it to me please. Obviously you understand me. Its only fair you dumb it down a bit for idiot human me to understand.

Nope .... can't dumb it down that far

post by dilly1
And Don't be shy,, I type over 5000 characters and you type one freakin sentence.

Its not quantity but quality that matters .

post by dilly1
Oh and tell me what flying object in the sky isn't man made

Errr , the ones not made by man maybe .
Do some research , there are many accounts of unidentified objects in the sky throughout history .
Here's a starter for you .

Originally posted by free_spirit

Originally posted by Rocketman7
In all my years of studying UFOlogy, and as a graphics expert, and with a great deal of knowledge of camera work, and lighting, and physics, this is the only video that has ever passed my test.
When I first discovered the video in Kazaa, where it was leaked years ago, it was quite high def.

edit on 12/29/2011 by 12m8keall2c because: fixed video code

I'm sorry to disappoint you Rocketman7 but this video is a CGI creation by artist Tony Milw
who uploaded the footage on March 12, 2007, check his video here. Better luck next time.
By the way the video was not leaked but copied by many and also discussed here.

Meet Tony Milw here and also google his name. And happy new year 2012.
www.hi5.com...

Fraid not remember I said I downloaded it off the peer to peer network 10 years go.

Originally posted by ElOmen
I'm sorry but why do ufos pose for video cameras for 5 seconds then just drift off without the camera chasing where its headed...just doesn't make sense

It was pausing for a photoshoot...or should I say...a Photoshop shoot

Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
That's likely one of the sketchiest UFO vids I've ever seen. At the 0:10 mark, the "craft" seems to pixelate the branch it passes behind, and is it me or does the camera wobble not match the wobble movement of the UFO?

There is that, and right at the 3 second mark the craft bobbs up and down with the camera. Like it was overlayed on the original video. The craft in question should have stayed on a parallel course without any up or down movement that followed the camera. Sorry man looks fake to me. I think this day and age it's got to be a pretty damn solid video for anyone to really believe it. We are flooded with hoax ufo videos daily...

Originally posted by Rocketman7

Originally posted by dilly1

You have no proof of any object flying 8000mhp,let alone a beam of light..lol... And stop with the wikipedia crap.

"People have claimed it going 25kmhp"?what???????

3 miles N of Arrey, N.M. [50 miles west of White Sands] , 10:30 a.m.
[Project Blue Book unknown]

--General Mills/Mogul balloon expert Charles B. Moore, while tracking a test balloon with a theodolite, made important UFO sighting with 4 Navy technicians, (Akers, Davidson, Fitzsimmons, Moorman). After tracking it across the sky, the whitish-silver, elliptical object, roughly 100 by 40 feet, disappeared in a sharp climb, calculated at 18,000 to 25,000 mph [5-7 miles/sec] , at an altitude estimated at 60 miles. At one point the UFO climbed about 25 miles in only 10 sec [or about 80 G's acceleration!!]. The object left no trail and was observed for about 1 minute.

And etc.

Consider White Sands, consider the entire area, at that time. That was nuclear central.

It does not seem strange to me that if you are going to see aliens, you might see them associated with mankind getting the bomb.

You say they are man made well how good is your history?

Does it go all the way back to India at the time of Rama, where they claim they had space ships, they fought a war with the moon, and had weapons of mass destruction?

If you want to put your faith in modern science then take a look at this simple little thing found from space.

A simple little thing like a land bridge, that is man made and spoken of in history as being 2 million years old by the same people who told the story of Rama and the flying ships or Vimana of India.

We don't have any evidence of Vimana, but darned if we didn't find a land bridge, that appears to be man made, that is very old, as described by the same texts.
Not just a little path way ether.

You can see it from space. Thats how they found it.

Adams Bridge

Oh sure you can say it is a natural formation, except it is made of things like stumps and rocks and looks man made if you want to be honest with yourself.

Science can't be honest about it because well it doesn't fit in with the rest of their story.

Just like UFOs don't fit in with the rest of their story.

edit on 29-12-2011 by Rocketman7 because: (no reason given)

Being "nuclear central" has nothing to do with , or associated with aliens

Why and how do you come up with this stuff?


You do know there's many other nuclear site other than White Sands:

How about the Pacific Ocean(french and American),Colorado,Mississippi, South Atlantic Ocean,Algeria, Zemlya Island, Semipalatnsk, Edward Island,Lop Nur, Pakistan, India, Australia, Japan, Marshall Islands, Johnston Islands and Christmas Island.


Now are those sites associated with Aliens? Don't bother answering ,,,this is a trap.

You're questioning my history. My history is perfect. Try me I dare you.

Rama is a theory and based on our unknown history(it could be true, but so what) ,,just because there is a boat-load of layers of glass doesn't mean aliens were setting A-bombs at each other. And most of this stuff is "ancient aliens tv show crap". Listen I do believe there was advance civilizations way before our last ice age(75k years ago),but it doesn't mean there were aliens involved. I don't believe Egyptians built the Giza pyramids either(I'm a General Contractor, I know what it takes to build),,but again I don't think for a minute aliens were the culprits. The alien option is too easy. And universal daunting questions, enigmas are not and never solved easily.

So your Rama reference is mute. Drop it , holds no water.


I do not put faith in anything . I have no faith in religion,science medicine ,,,nothing..only myself(and that's how its should be). Faith is man made. If you have faith in man you will be disappointed time after time. Its always either faith or theories. And I hate both.

I like your land bridge link. Very cool. But again why in the world would you assume it has anything to do with aliens(not saying its natural either). Why. You have been brainwashed to think humans went from "hunter-gatherers" to creating the Sumerian Bible. Not true. Because you are brainwashed you fill in the daunting gaps with the Alien option.




Open your eyes More

Originally posted by intrptr
Camera was already pointed at object, not swung up after it appears. It "poses" for videographer, (from his point of view) then moves off and videographer just holds the view of nothing, instead of running to get a better view of it again., or generally freakin out.

He shakes a bit at the end.

He did a good job.

He was expecting it I would think. I mean if you are about to take footage of a real UFO you are not in an ordinary position on earth on an ordinary day at an ordinary time.

You are making history. Presidents and the Pope are not privy to the information he was privy to.

Who else are you going to put above the president or the pope to say well who else should have such an honor? The Queen of England?

Its the only ligitimate video in all the world that is in the public domain. It is the only substantive proof of an advanced civilization on the earth that is in the public domain.

As I said before you would expect, that something as big as this, even God would have a hand in.

There is nothing that is more important on earth, or more of a revelation than to be shown or told as he was that day or she, that mankind is not the only intelligent life in the universe.

That knowledge is the greatest knowledge that could be attained by man.

That man is not the center of the universe because without anyone else being out there then we are it.

We are like some kind of miracle that is beyond belief.

You have to understand the immense proportions of the universe and yet not a single sign out there at all, not from any signal, no spectral analysis, and it has reached back to the dawn of the big bang, no spectral analysis of any kind, has shown any signs of life in the cosmos, other than right here on earth.
No radio signals, no nothing. Just us.

But lots and lots of testimonials regarding that not being the case, all without any credible proof.

So what makes this so credible?

Ist not really. Its just enough to be believable.

For the person who took the video, ok, thats proof.

For us, we get to see this video and it has a lot of crredibility, but not much more than say a press conference by the military saying a disk just crashed at Roswell New Mexico.
That was pretty credible until they said it was a mistaken observation.
Well seriously, who on earth, could confuse a balloon, and some tin foil and some balsa wood sticks enough to fill a wheel barrel with a crashed flying saucer?
No one in their right mind.

And the fact there there tons and tons of eye witnesses who have sworn on their death bed they saw a crashed disk, does not seem to matter much. But video evidence at least that is something real.
And the craft is real and mechanical, and not swamp gas, or lights in the sky or orbs.

I agree with the majority here, far from the best video. Matter of fact, in my opinion, there are no good UFO video's, and why people want to fake them is rediculoso.

Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by dilly1

 

post by dilly1
First, I can't even understand your "Anglish" , or is it english.

First off its English with a capital E

post by dilly1
Explain it to me please. Obviously you understand me. Its only fair you dumb it down a bit for idiot human me to understand.

Nope .... can't dumb it down that far

post by dilly1
And Don't be shy,, I type over 5000 characters and you type one freakin sentence.

Its not quantity but quality that matters .

post by dilly1
Oh and tell me what flying object in the sky isn't man made

Errr , the ones not made by man maybe .
Do some research , there are many accounts of unidentified objects in the sky throughout history .
Here's a starter for you .

stateoftheart.nl


Wonderful, you have nothing to debate so you look for the tiniest thing to discredit me. Typical poser. Nothing more


What quality have you posted. Is it your lack of knowledge or blind faith in aliens?

So which Flying Objects are not made by man???,,,,,,,,,,,, oh you mean this link(stateoftheart.nl)
. . All it states is 3rd person jargon,, A bunch of eyewitness accounts. Do you believe everything you read? Or do you believe what suits you.?


I can't believe you posted that link. Such poor quality. You must be an extremely lazy person.

Originally posted by JAY1980

Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
That's likely one of the sketchiest UFO vids I've ever seen. At the 0:10 mark, the "craft" seems to pixelate the branch it passes behind, and is it me or does the camera wobble not match the wobble movement of the UFO?

There is that, and right at the 3 second mark the craft bobbs up and down with the camera. Like it was overlayed on the original video. The craft in question should have stayed on a parallel course without any up or down movement that followed the camera. Sorry man looks fake to me. I think this day and age it's got to be a pretty damn solid video for anyone to really believe it. We are flooded with hoax ufo videos daily...

Well like I say that bobbing up and down was not just part of the craft bibbing up and down, that part was edited to acentuate it, to make the video look fake.

If you do a frame dump of the frames, there are two frames right there that are purposefully reversed.

No software automatically reverses two frames. It was done using editing software when the video was compressed.

And it was done for a reason.

If you are trying to fake something, you are not going to reverse frames to make it look fake, for one thing.

And secondly if you are leaking something real and want it to look fake, then you might want to edit it so it looks fake,.
Keep in mind if it looks real, a more concerted effort will be made to censor it and who knows to what extent.
It made it through, but not unscathed.

And as for the guy who claims it wa s made by CGI and uploaded in 2006 then how come my copy is better than his?

Well?

Pardon?

Where ya goin???

reply to post by Rocketman7


Personally I would have expected something far far more convincing a video than this from an expert. It screamed fake for me immediately that I didn't bother scrutinising it any further. I mean no disrespect if you genuinely posted with sincerity.

reply to post by dilly1

post by dilly1
Wonderful, you have nothing to debate so you look for the tiniest thing to discredit me.

You started it .

post by dilly1
First, I can't even understand your "Anglish" , or is it english.

post by dilly1
All it states is 3rd person jargon,, A bunch of eyewitness accounts.

Isn't that the definition of a UFO report ?

post by dilly1
I can't believe you posted that link. Such poor quality. You must be an extremely lazy person.

So because I posted a link that you don't like that makes me lazy .

reply to post by Rocketman7


You are going to hate me:

It's fake.


The ship shakes with the camera a bit and is not in sync with the environment. The frame rates are different.

Originally posted by dilly1

Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by dilly1

 

post by dilly1
First, I can't even understand your "Anglish" , or is it english.

First off its English with a capital E

post by dilly1
Explain it to me please. Obviously you understand me. Its only fair you dumb it down a bit for idiot human me to understand.

Nope .... can't dumb it down that far

post by dilly1
And Don't be shy,, I type over 5000 characters and you type one freakin sentence.

Its not quantity but quality that matters .

post by dilly1
Oh and tell me what flying object in the sky isn't man made

Errr , the ones not made by man maybe .
Do some research , there are many accounts of unidentified objects in the sky throughout history .
Here's a starter for you .

stateoftheart.nl


Wonderful, you have nothing to debate so you look for the tiniest thing to discredit me. Typical poser. Nothing more


What quality have you posted. Is it your lack of knowledge or blind faith in aliens?

So which Flying Objects are not made by man???,,,,,,,,,,,, oh you mean this link(stateoftheart.nl)
. . All it states is 3rd person jargon,, A bunch of eyewitness accounts. Do you believe everything you read? Or do you believe what suits you.?


I can't believe you posted that link. Such poor quality. You must be an extremely lazy person.

If you want a true scientific library of all possible sightings through history, then I suppose you could glance at ufoevidence dot org.

But really will it tell you anything you have not seen on TV?
It will tell you in depth about every major occurence known to man almost.

But has a UFO landed on the White House lawn yet? If not then why not?

Its the quantum realm where things are real some times and then not real the next day.
One day the military is saying they found a crashed flying disk from outer space, the next day they are saying it is a weather balloon.
Its all like that. Lots and lots of incredible stories.
Lots and lots of investigation and radar returns, sightings on the ground, and testimonials from impeccable witnesses, death bed confessions, marks on their body, holes in the ground where the pods were, broken branches, missiles disarmed, car chases missing time episodes, implants, group abductions, and all of it in a quantum swirl of probability that sways in the breeze between real and unreal, between fact and fiction.

Settling for a while as fact, then drifting back towards fiction.
Hard to imagine that such quantum effects could exist on th emacro level but how else can you explain it all.

Take a look. Documents from freedom of information, gun camera footage, pieces of metal of unknown origin, and pictures of aliens on cave walls, and men in space suits holding test tubes, dating back to the dawn of time.
Carved in rock. By people who you would expect, would not know what a space suit or a test tube might look like at all.