The Current State Of Free Energy Technology

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precisely - there are many applications where battery chemistry and configuration has to be selected based on most favourable cell internal resistance

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I did not say that you did.I said without watching vid I see error in his reproduction of the device (alligator clips) so what other errors are there with the device.

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and you point is?

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Such as?

Please the article in the OP is about whats out there atm and what is trying to keep this repressed,also the current trend that people are starting to bypass the patent side of things and are putting there findings out on the web free of charge

What is starting to happen is that inventors are publishing their work, instead of patenting it and keeping it secret. More and more, people are giving away information on these technologies in books, videos and websites. While there is still a great deal of useless information about free energy on the Internet, the availability of good information is rising rapidly. Check out the list of websites and other resources at the end of this article.

Originally posted by Bilder
Please the article in the OP is about whats out there atm and what is trying to keep this repressed

The only thing keeping this nonsense suppressed is the fact that none of them work.

, the availability of good information is rising rapidly.

No, the amount of fraudsters pushing free energy is rising.

reply to post by ignorant_ape
Google bedini ssg kits.I would post link but I would not want to spam.

reply to post by -PLB-
To be honest I cant say it does or it does not work.There are many arguments for and against.One thing I do know is tptb lie to us all the time.I have hope that it does and I will try to build one to prove it for myself.

reply to post by rollin76


Thats a good way to come to a conclusion: do experiments.

I do not believe in an all controlling TPTB. I believe TPTB is a mixture of all kind of people with most of the time conflicting interests. The thousands of Youtube videos and Internet sites pretty much proves that there is no suppression whatsoever going on. People like Searl and Bedini are allowed to produce and sell anything they like (except when it fraud). There is nothing in their way stopping them.

In 2007, Bedini's Energenx company began distributing a line of battery charger/"rejuvenator" products,[15] which he claims do two things: 1. charge batteries using much less energy than traditional chargers, and 2. restore sulfated batteries to near-new condition. In November 2008, he began more heavily promoting these devices, claiming they have performed well. As of May 2010, Renaissance Charge LLC (Energenx sales arm) is still in the business of selling radiant battery chargers. The company has added 5 additional chargers to their product line including an electric vehicle charger.

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hi curent applications used for portable applications

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i did , and guess what :

Materials List


The following is a list of materials that may be necessary to replicate the Bedini School Girl circuit and motor as presented in this guide. Some of the parts are flexible.

Alligator Clips

· Specifications

Wires need to be larger than #20; clips need to be rated for at least 5 Amps. at least 12" recommended.

source

you were saying about aligsator clips in another post ?

Originally posted by -PLB-

Anyway, except for some ignorant and naive people, you will never convince anyone that your device works when it requires a battery. Just saying.

Like it or not, it does require a battery. Something has to supply power to the motor on the input side.

However they say that you can pulse some of the excess energy on the output back around to the input battery and keep it charged up, thus making the motor a "Self-Runner". This way you can have something that will keep running for months or years, until the battery or the moving parts finally wear out. Which would not normally be possible with only one battery.

Bedini SG Self-Runner Replication by Rick Friedrich

Anyone want to try to replicate?

Originally posted by Bilder
Please the article in the OP is about whats out there atm and what is trying to keep this repressed

The article in the OP says your refrigerator is a free energy machine, and if you believe that, there's probably nothing logical any of us can say to you that will influence your beliefs based on facts and evidence.

And if you don't believe that, why would you believe anything else in that article? It's all written by the same person who apparently has a screw loose to claim a refrigerator is a free energy machine.

Originally posted by -PLB-
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Thats a good way to come to a conclusion: do experiments.

My master degree in electrical engineering says otherwise

Hey PLB,

Since you have expertise in electrical engineering, you would be the perfect sort of person to try some of these experiments!

Wanna try replicating the Self-Runner?

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oh noes - more of those " wrong " alligator clips :

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Originally posted by cupocoffee
Bedini SG Self-Runner Replication by Rick Friedrich

Anyone want to try to replicate?

Why don't you do it?

I just followed both the links at the top of that article. John says his ran for 3 hours.

3 hours? If it's self running he should be able to run longer than 3 hours, this is definitely within the time a battery can power it. It's just another sad example of an experimenter not knowing how to set up an experiment. It reminds me of Rossi's tests, always so short.

The other experimenter who claimed success, Marcel Mushik, doesn't even claim his unit is self running, he just says it's running. With 2 batteries hooked up I'd be more surprised if it didn't run.

If these are the success stories you're talking about, it's about as successful as me running my little fishing boat on a trolling motor connected to a battery for a few hours. I don't see any evidence of self running in a 3 hour test of something connected to a battery.

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No, I am not interested. As electrical engineer (well, actually, you just need critical thinking) I know that a battery is not required. It makes no sense in any way. A device with a COP>1 can supply the input power from the excess output power. It is pretty much the definition of such a device. When a device fails to work without a battery, it already proves a COP

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rather than be told - you did it wrong [ error unspecified ] - or that it needs more adjustment [ unspecified ] i , and i suspect other skeptics would prefer to examin a unit that is claimed to work - then test it correctly

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Yes I know, electrical engineers will look at it and go, "But I already know that won't work".

But the whole point is that electrical engineers have no concept of "Radiant energy" or "negative energy" in their models. The "Radiant energy" that Tesla discovered.

Just try building it anyway, even though you don't believe it will work.

That is the only way they can teach engineers what Radiant energy is and how it works, by getting them to try the experiments, in spite of their disbelief....

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Why don't you do it?

Don't you think people will take this a lot more seriously if we have some actual engineers doing the building and testing, instead of some janitor?