Quake Watch 2012

Originally posted by SpaceJockey1
reply to post by Advantage

 

Maine's not a common place for earthquakes...

Largest was back in 1904 03 21 - Southeast Maine - M 5.1

A M 4.5 would appear to be largest since the above.

Hopefully it's a one-off for at least another 100 years

I don't know why 1904 struck a chord with me,maybe it had to do something with a song called"1904" and the lyrics reference the day the world shook.

Then I saw this,and was thinking the puterman write this ?

June 11, 1903 Quite a severe shock of earthquake at 5:12 a.m. that was also felt in Sonoma and Placer counties. It was described at Niles as being the most severe jolt since Oct. 21, 1868.
August 2, 1903 Quite a severe earthquake jolt did some damage in San Francisco. The most damage was reported in San Jose where hardly a building is not more or less damaged. The quake knocked the seismographs at Lick Observatory out of commission.
January 2, 1904 A three-second earthquake was felt at 10:04 p.m.
January 3, 1904 A mild earthquake was felt at 2:38 a.m.
January 5, 1904 A series of earthquake began at 2:30 a.m. today and ended around 10 a.m. All were small.
January 11, 1904 An earthquake was felt today.
February 22, 1904 Earthquake felt at 3 a.m.
March 1, 1904 Light earthquake felt at 6:09 a.m.
April 21, 1904 Mild earthquake felt at 3:50 a.m.
April 27, 1904 An earthquake was felt at 9:10 p.m.
July 21, 1904 Very mild earthquake felt at 11:25 p.m.
July 30, 1904 Earthquake felt at 2:26 a.m.
November 27, 1904 Mild earthquake was felt at 8:20 a.m. December 1, 1904 A series of four earthquakes were felt between 1 o'clock and 1:10 a.m.
December 2, 1904 A shock of earthquake was felt today.
December 4, 1904 Mild earthquake felt at 12:04 a.m. The earthquake was reported to have been quite severe at Eureka.
December 5, 1904 An earthquake was felt here today.
December 6, 1904 Another earthquake was felt today.
December 8, 1904 Another mild earthquake today at 4:14 a.m
December 9, 1904 Another mild earthquake today.
December 14, 1904 An earthquake this morning at 7:10 a.m was felt all around the Bay.
December 16, 1904 Another earthquake was felt.

www.sfmuseum.org...

Sorry,I wonder off sometimes.

reply to post by kdog1982


Man.....I know Puterman is a well seasoned fella(by his own admission). But come on......1903

Peace

The U.S. Geological Survey downgrades magnitude of earthquake that hit southern Maine to 4.0

13 Miles away from the epicenter in Maine! Crazy...

reply to post by kennvideo

and
reply to post by dreamfox1

I gave you both a star each for catching that one, that quake was a biggie, now 5.7Mw or 6.1ML according to USGS.
NZ Geonet saying 5.5ML
Unusual that USGS are higher than Geonet

I didn't feel it, was driving to Wellington at the time but the other half phoned me and said just had a big jolt and the flowers in the vase on the table were still shaking.
Felt as far south as Sevenoaks near Gore in Southland and heaps across the North Island
Intensity Reports
strong 2
moderate 81
light 4793
weak 791
Total 5667
www.geonet.org.nz...

New Moon 2012 Oct 15 12:03
Moon in Perigee Oct 17, 1:03am, 360,672 km
Hmmm 2 day earthquake window?

2 mag 5's in 2 days after 6 weeks with none.

Earthquake Details

This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.
Magnitude
6.0
Date-Time
Wednesday, October 17, 2012 at 04:42:31 UTC
Wednesday, October 17, 2012 at 12:42:31 PM at epicenter
Location
4.191°N, 124.573°E
Depth
337.4 km (209.7 miles)
Region
CELEBES SEA
Distances
225 km (140 miles) SSW (198°) from General Santos, Mindanao, Philippines
303 km (188 miles) N (354°) from Manado, Sulawesi, Indonesia
340 km (211 miles) S (174°) from Cotabato, Mindanao, Philippines
1068 km (664 miles) E (94°) from BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN, Brunei
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 12.4 km (7.7 miles); depth +/- 5.7 km (3.5 miles)
Parameters
NST=266, Nph=283, Dmin=337.3 km, Rmss=1.17 sec, Gp= 22°,
M-type=regional moment magnitude (Mw), Version=9
Source
Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
usb000d7a8

Source

4.0 2012/10/16 23:12:23 43.592 -70.676 6.6 MAINE
2.7 2012/10/17 02:57:32 32.483 -96.960 12.1 NORTHERN TEXAS
3.2 2012/10/17 04:42:40 35.678 -97.115 5.0 OKLAHOMA

fracking going on tonight? lol

Source

reply to post by kennvideo


Something is not right there. How can they call that a 4.0 Mw when they have it at 4.6 mb in the phase data, and so to EMSC. 4.6 mb is at least a 5 Mw.

GFZ Potsdam do not list it - too small and not important as not in Europe! GeoAzur similarly do not list it. Now that may mean that it was not 5 Mw BUT it find it odd that the mb apparently is out. Even on the chart below it makes it a 4.7 Mw approximately.



As I sit here surrounded by darkness, waiting for dawn's early light, the faint smell of pork pies wafts through the air........



Last night I took a screenshot when the two different versions were showing. One was the current us network version, and the other the at network version which is normally the irst. Here is my deleted record of that one:

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
usgs,2012-10-16 23:12:25, 43.603, -70.754, 4.5, 27.0, Maine

Now the location has changed again. In fact this quake has moved around much more than many we see.



Mag 4 on the nearest seismo


Source: FFD.NE..BNZ.2012.290

Originally posted by radpetey
reply to post by kdog1982

 

Man.....I know Puterman is a well seasoned fella(by his own admission). But come on......1903

Peace

Thanks!! Yes not quite. To be writing that I would have to have been born around 1880 and I may be old, but I am not that old! I admit to 1948 and no earlier

reply to post by lurksoften


Just been lifted to 6.1 Mw by EMSC from 5.8 mb. This agrees with the SCARDEC evaluation.

GFZ Potsdam have 5.8 but they do not state the scale used and there is no MT yet.

USGS have 5.9 mb on the phase data and 6.7 ML

5.9mb is ~6.1 Mw but the ML value seems high.

reply to post by PuterMan


thanks

been looking to see if i can find any fracking going on in Maine have not found a good map yet lol

reply to post by muzzy

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
emsc,2012-10-16 23:42:56, -38.752, 176.324, 5.7, 110.0, N. Isl Of Nz
newz,2012-10-16 23:42:55, -38.638, 176.167, 5.5, 110.5, North Taranaki Bight-Taumaranui-Taupo [F]
gfz,2012-10-16 23:42:55, -38.760, 176.150, 5.5, 93.0, N. Isl. Nz
usgs,2012-10-16 23:42:54, -38.538, 176.117, 5.7, 103.9, N. Isl Of Nz

They agree with EMSC and at that level the Mw value is slightly higher than the ML value.

reply to post by lurksoften


I had a good look round on Google Earth but I could not see anything readily identifiable. Unfortunately the imagery by the Maine epicentre is dated 2003, yet not far away where the sparse trees turn into lush green forest (!) the imagery is dated 2012.


I was looking for maps and came across this: Connections Found between East-West Highway, Canadian Fracking Fields, and Searsport LPG Tank by Maine Earth First

This larger energy scheme that benefits private investors, but only uses Maine as a throughway, deepens our concerns about how severely the highway will exploit Maine. But there is more. Companies in Canada have started to use gelled propane instead of chemical water to extract LNG. A November 15, 2011 article in Chemistry World states, “’This is a game changer for the industry,’ says Don LeBlanc, principal consultant at Eastex Petroleum Consultants in Halifax, Nova Scotia, who has been involved in shale gas trials with gelled propane in New Brunswick, Canada.”

Fracking businesses have been under pressure for poisoning freshwater aquifers. By switching to a petroleum based product like propane, they are able to extract more LNG, and recapture the propane as a net gain. They add a nerve inhibitor to gel the propane to the required consistency. In addition, propane may be used as an agent to liquefy the natural gas, which makes it possible to store and transport.

Emphasis by me

Originally posted by lurksoften
reply to post by PuterMan

 

thanks

been looking to see if i can find any fracking going on in Maine have not found a good map yet lol

edit on 17-10-2012 by lurksoften because: (no reason given)

I sent a guitar case to Boston a couple years back, and when it arrived, an EQ hit at the same time. If they happened at the same time, they're the same event. I learned this yesterday on ats. See if you can find a 65 Fender case for a electric 12 string, orange crushed lining....'cause it could of been sent to Maine.

Maine is a very hard state. Granite, rock and more rock. I think quakes are super rare in this area. I always take notice. fracking is weakening the entire continent, so it may be many miles away...thousands, and cannot be discounted. .

reply to post by davidmann

I sent a guitar case to Boston a couple years back, and when it arrived, an EQ hit at the same time. If they happened at the same time, they're the same event. I learned this yesterday on ats. See if you can find a 65 Fender case for a electric 12 string, orange crushed lining....'cause it could of been sent to Maine.

Not much out there for such a fender case either. Probably a good thing if one of those arriving causes an earthquake. Please do try not to send me one, much as the guitar case would be useful the earthquake would not.

reply to post by PuterMan


Hey PM ! ;-)

When you have time will you take a look at my question here www.abovetopsecret.com... about Nevada. Im still very curious as to what is going on there and why not much information is had regarding the swarm. Thanks!

Also, in regards to the Maine quake... do you think fracking is the cause??

Here in the US watching the Presidential debate last night I was thinking.... they don't even speak on behalf of the Earth and the People. Its really sad that we have all this eq activity from fracking, yet they continue to support such stupid choices. Im really over the disrespect!

My head hurts. Propane flavoured jello? So, they're using CO2, diesel, propane, etc to bring the methane to the surface and a whole lot more. And whent he stuff comes back up to the surface it's slightly radio-active, and full of volatile organic compounds. Benzine anyone? Then they pump it back down with a little CO2 they've scrubbed from some smoke stake and call it clean energy. WOW.

Did I mention I had a headache? Was going to say something about Okie and Tex. (There flies by a flycatcher in my window, and two wood ducks I think. They're so tiny. The flycatchers I mean.) The Maine quake does not look like a 4.
I need a break. How can I tell whether or not I'm having a stroke if every time I hear something it's always not the truth? Natural Gas. Clean burning. Orwell anyone? I think I'm always having a stroke because I'm always suddenly confused when I have to digest the news. (we, should stop watching the stupid news smeagol) (i'm walking now- be back)

I suppose I just want to not that the epicenter (sound of the needle being pulled across the old vinyl record)

I wish we quake watchers, and frackquake watchers, got the same notice as those storm chasin' tornado guys. They drive around Texas and Oklahoma looking for storms. So do we. Instead of trucks we use the computer and follow the online seismographs. (We're a little more green and eco-friendly.) But there is one thing about these quakes is that if we had to chase them by driving, we have the highway right there to travel back and forth. Curious how these quakes lay right on that track. I couldn't read the article Puterman posted yet, it was hurting my head. But the highway connection got me thinking and you can plainly see the connection on the plains of TexArkOkie. I made up a word. It's the frackquake triangle of TexArkOkie. What's that highway name? 35?




I got bumped off and lost stuff. The f-quakes were about 350km and within two hours.

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by muzzy

 

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
emsc,2012-10-16 23:42:56, -38.752, 176.324, 5.7, 110.0, N. Isl Of Nz
newz,2012-10-16 23:42:55, -38.638, 176.167, 5.5, 110.5, North Taranaki Bight-Taumaranui-Taupo [F]
gfz,2012-10-16 23:42:55, -38.760, 176.150, 5.5, 93.0, N. Isl. Nz
usgs,2012-10-16 23:42:54, -38.538, 176.117, 5.7, 103.9, N. Isl Of Nz

They agree with EMSC and at that level the Mw value is slightly higher than the ML value.

UGS show ML = 6.1 ( 36) versus Geonets 5.5ML, quite a difference.
On their phase data most of the NZ stations magnitudes are 6+ , and those are mb presumeably
neic.usgs.gov...
so in fact the MW is less than the ML and the mb, which is quite unusual isn't it
I see EMSCis more below 6 in their phase data
www.emsc-csem.org...

Once again Muzzy questions the accuracy and reliability of UGS, especially when it comes to NZ events

ETA: The Russians have 5.4mb but they only had 3 stations data tovwork with so not much help
www.ceme.gsras.ru...

GeoAu have Mb: 5.39 (Preferred), Ms: 4.88 , so thats in line with Geonet, GFZ and RAS, I'd tend to go with that, GeoAu used 61 stations and they are the closest source outside of New Zealand.

Originally posted by muzzy

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
emsc,2012-10-16 23:42:56, -38.752, 176.324, 5.7, 110.0, N. Isl Of Nz
newz,2012-10-16 23:42:55, -38.638, 176.167, 5.5, 110.5, North Taranaki Bight-Taumaranui-Taupo [F]
gfz,2012-10-16 23:42:55, -38.760, 176.150, 5.5, 93.0, N. Isl. Nz
usgs,2012-10-16 23:42:54, -38.538, 176.117, 5.7, 103.9, N. Isl Of Nz

GeoAu have Mb: 5.39 (Preferred), Ms: 4.88 , so thats in line with Geonet, GFZ and RAS, I'd tend to go with that, GeoAu used 61 stations and they are the closest source outside of New Zealand.

alteration: GFZ have upgraded to 5.7 since then, that is unusual too (GFZ altering) or was that original 5.5mb maybe


network locations accuracy +/- 51.75 km
interactive map here

Some updates:

Magnitude 6+ earthquakes downgraded: 2
Magnitude 5 or 6+ earthquakes upgraded: 1
------------------------------------------------------------------
Downgraded quake
us|c000d3rv|?|Monday, October 08, 2012 11:43:35 UTC|-4.442|129.165|6.1|34.7|?|112km SSE of Saparua, Indonesia
Downgraded quake
us|c000d3ne|?|Monday, October 08, 2012 06:26:22 UTC|25.125|-109.698|5.9|9.9|?|83km SW of Topolobampo, Mexico
------------------------------------------------------------------
Upgraded quake
us|c000d4li|?|Tuesday, October 09, 2012 12:32:04 UTC|-61.033|153.96|6.6|10.2|?|Balleny Islands region
Log closed 211830

Balleny Isls Region

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
usgs,2012-10-09 12:32:04, -61.033, 153.960, 6.6, 10.2, Balleny Isls. Region
gfz,2012-10-09 12:32:03, -61.190, 154.370, 6.6, 10.0, Balleny Isls. Region
emsc,2012-10-09 12:32:02, -61.107, 154.155, 6.4, 2.0, Balleny Isls. Region

EMSC still @6.4

Mexico (Gulf of California)

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
usgs,2012-10-08 06:26:22, 25.125, -109.698, 5.9, 9.9, Gulf Of California
gfz,2012-10-08 06:26:22, 25.060, -109.610, 6.0, 20.0, Gulf Of California

Indonesia (Banda Sea)

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
usgs,2012-10-08 11:43:35, -4.442, 129.165, 6.1, 34.7, Banda Sea
emsc,2012-10-08 11:43:33, -4.541, 129.325, 6.3, 10.0, Banda Sea
gfz,2012-10-08 11:43:36, -4.480, 129.320, 6.2, 39.0, Banda Sea

Source for all of above: