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Originally posted by PuterMan
On the subject of planetary 'alignments' / conjunctions /oppositions or whateva 'ere is sum low down info on the effects of gravity and tides on our planet using the Moon as the benchmark (Moon=1)
It is a little disappointing really. Not really much affect at all.In fact if ALL of those were on the same line the total is only 0.01701.
Then consider an 'alignment' where Jupiter is on the opposite side. The gravitational effect on us is reduced for 0.01 to 0.005 and that is a big chunk of that 0.01701 gone - in fact 0.005 of it leaving 0.01201
Sources: Harmonic Con(game)vergence and Planetart Alignments: Fact or Fiction
And if you are not sufficiently 'undoomed' yet you could try 2012 Hoax: Planetary Alignments from which I got the above links.
And finally:
The line at the top of each of the above graphs (roughly where the Venus spikes max out) corresponds to a tidal acceleration that is one ten-thousandth as strong as the Sun's average tidal acceleration on Earth (or over 20,000 times smaller than the tidal acceleration induced twice every day by the Moon). The low line on the graphs, close to the long-term average of the net planetary tide, is one one-hundred-thousandth of the average solar tide. So, as expected, the gravitational influence of the planets on the Earth is utterly insignificant. We're saved!
(Not sure which line is refereed to as I don't see one above the Venus spikes but the figures speak for themselves. No scale references so not easy to see what this is.)
The Influence of the Planets
But never mind. I shall still continue to collect the lunar and celestial data around the time of each Mag 6+, even if only so someone in the future can make use of it to prove a point. (Either way as the data is unbiased)
Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by muzzy
LDEO are also showing 6.0 MW so that may have something to do with it!
www.ldeo.columbia.edu...
surface-wave sources identified by a systematic analysis of seismograms from the Global Seismographic Network and from other seismographic networks and stations
2012 4 30 21 41 52.0 -57.50 -141.50 33.0 5.2 PACIFIC-ANTARCTIC RIDGE
Region name: KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION
Date (y/m/d): 1976/1/1
hr min sec lat lon depth mb Ms
1 29 39.60 -28.61 -177.64 59.0 6.2 0.0
Mw = 7.3
Handy to have another source, but how reliable is that I wonder?
Some of the locations are different to usgs's
Personally, I always use the Lamont number, if it is available, as Goran has included lots of nice corrections and carefully calibrated it - he's an artist. But for fast, good numbers, the USGS page is great, plus I can call them with questions, should they arise.
2012 4 11 10 43 20.0 0.75 92.25 33.0 7.8 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA
2012 4 11 8 38 56.0 1.75 92.75 33.0 8.0 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA
Given that a couple of the largest by energy quakes happened in the 1960's, I'm not arguing the 'energy', but rather the NUMBER.
Who believes that we aren't going to see a few more 8.5+ quakes in the next couple of years to add to that current 6 x 8.5+ number (so far we are less than 8 years thru the current 2004 to 2013 period of calculation)?
1. From 1950 to 1959 there were 4 x 8.5+ megaquakes
2. From 1960 to 1969 there were 4 x 8.5+ megaquakes
3. From 2004 to 2012 (so far) there have already been 6 x 8.5+ megaquakes
Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by SpaceJockey1
Given that a couple of the largest by energy quakes happened in the 1960's, I'm not arguing the 'energy', but rather the NUMBER.
Which is where you are incorrect, especially at these levels.
Who believes that we aren't going to see a few more 8.5+ quakes in the next couple of years to add to that current 6 x 8.5+ number (so far we are less than 8 years thru the current 2004 to 2013 period of calculation)?
I do. I will come back to this in a hour or so.
Sort of not the size but what you DO with it, that counts
Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by SpaceJockey1
Sort of not the size but what you DO with it, that counts
Absolutely. It may be a big one but is it full of energy? One (decade) may be small but much more energetic.
Mag 8+ FYI
Decade, Count, Nominal energy
1900 to 1909, 8, 2,058
1910 to 1919, 5, 759
1920 to 1929, 6, 1,931
1930 to 1939, 7, 985
1940 to 1949, 9, 761
1950 to 1959, 7, 5,807
1960 to 1960, 8, 16,384
1970 to 1979, 8, 724
1980 to 1989, 4, 278
1990 to 1999, 6, 645
2000 to 2009, 13, 4,004
2010 to 2019, 4, 4,445
Even that last 12 years comes nowhere near the decade of the 60s, only half of it. 1960 on it's own was more than the whole of the rest that century by 3000+ PJ. (And that is counting it as Mag 9.5 but I see several references to it having been 9.6 Mw.
Now given that between 2000 and 2009 we had a large energy increase (similar to the 1950's), and just 2 years into the 2010 to 2019 decade, we have already passed the previous DECADES energy output, it looks to me like we could be in for a bumpy ride till 2019!
The May 20, 2012 Solar Eclipse totality line is shown in red; passing directly through Tokyo. The blue eclipse lines mark the limits of seeing the full eclipse. I've also marked the mega-quake and tsunami of March 22, 2011. Several subduction zones, along the southeast of the country are highlighted by this eclipse.
An expanded view of the entire eclipse shows that it starts in the east, sweeps up towards the Aleutian Island chain and down through California and Nevada.
Magnitude M 5.2
Region WESTERN TURKEY
Date time 2012-05-03 15:20:27.0 UTC
Location 39.17 N ; 29.16 E
Depth 10 km
Distances 115 km S Bursa (pop 1,412,701 ; local time 18:20:27.3 2012-05-03)
59 km NW Usak (pop 152,862 ; local time 18:20:27.3 2012-05-03)
18 km NE Simav (pop 34,909 ; local time 18:20:27.3 2012-05-03)
16 km NW Saphane (pop 5,085 ; local time 18:20:27.3 2012-05-03)
Magnitude mb 4.9
Region WESTERN TURKEY
Date time 2012-04-26 22:05:33.0 UTC
Location 39.12 N ; 29.08 E
Depth 8 km
Distances 120 km S Bursa (pop 1,412,701 ; local time 01:05:33.9 2012-04-27)
57 km NW Usak (pop 152,862 ; local time 01:05:33.9 2012-04-27)
10 km E Simav (pop 34,909 ; local time 01:05:33.9 2012-04-27)
2012 4 26 22 5 36.0 39.00 29.00 33.0 5.1 TURKEY
Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
2012-05-03 15:20:27, 39.177, 29.179, 5.2, 2.0, Western Turkey
2012-05-03 15:25:27, 39.087, 29.068, 3.7, 2.0, Western Turkey
2012-05-03 15:28:30, 39.041, 29.081, 3.6, 5.0, Western Turkey
2012-05-03 15:40:05, 39.099, 29.078, 3.5, 5.0, Western Turkey