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Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by WarminIndy
For me, when I worship, I allow myself to be given over or used by the Holy Ghost, but I never just open myself to whatever is out there, I will never allow just anything to come into me.
That is the trap, right there. The "Holy Ghost" you speak of is the Human Spirit, we all have it. The thing that possesses Christians is just that, a possession. This is why Christians, especially the devout, show signs of possession. If you have willingly opened your heart and soul to Jesus, then you are probable possessed, it is just that simple. I offer my soul to no being.
Originally posted by LunaKat
reply to post by autowrench
Hi Autowrench.. I was thinking over what you wrote. Usually I agree with most of your posts. This one has me a little confused. If it was the same thing as the human spirit wouldn't we all be possessed, not just the devout? It has to be something more I think. I admit that for a couple years back in my early 20s before deciding to leave Christianity for good I did attend a charismatic church (after leaving the Catholic church). I saw people who "were filled with the Spirit." It was very real to them. In some societies the Shaman does kind of the same thing (I'm not saying its exactly the same but similar) and women who draw down the Goddess are channeling as well. Even artists claim to have channeled Inspiration.
I"m just looking to understand. We always walk around with the human spirit, but it doesn't seem the same.
Originally posted by LunaKat
Originally posted by colbe
Originally posted by LunaKat
Originally posted by colbe
Originally posted by LunaKat
Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by LunaKat
*All women* are the Goddess -- every shape, size, color and age. And men have an Inner Goddess.
You are exactly right in that. It took me awhile before I found the Goddess within, but I shall never forget the experience, and the feelings of the most pure love I felt. Women, everyone of you, are visible representations of the Divine Mother of us all. You might be interested in a few threads I wrote....
Vision about the Woman of Revelation 12
Let's All Face It, We Are God/Goddess
Mother Earth, Destroy, or Love?
Thanks autowrench I will check those out
LunaKat and autowrench,
Hi, I am replying, if you don't mind because it is important. John in the final
words of Revelation Chapter 11 talks about the Ark of the Covenant. The
Ark of the Covenant in the New Covenant contained God Himself! That would
Mary most holy.
Why do you think Our Lord addressed His mother from the Cross and in other
places in the Gospel as "woman?" He's God, He would know the plan. Mary is
the "woman" in Genesis 3:15, the first book of the Bible and Mary is the woman
in Revelation 12:1, Revelation, the last book of the Bible.
Mary is not God, nor are you. Mary is the mother of God. The term Goddess
is pagan.
The New Age "the goddess within" is such a crock.
Colbe anything outside of Christianity is considered a crock to Christians. But unlike you I don't find the fact that the Goddess is pagan to be an offensive thing at all. I am Neo-Pagan Colbe. The Goddess Within has just as much validity as the God Within (whether he is Osiris, Pan, Jesus, and so forth). Are you saying that "God" does not dwell within people? For the Goddess Within to be a crock you would ultimately also have to agree that the God Within is a crock as well.
LunaKat,
Give me an example of the miraculous, the result from praying to a Pagan God. This would confirm to me why you are a "Neo-Pagan." The true God, yours and
my creator is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. A mystery our human minds can't figure. All the miraculous points to Them, not Pagan Gods created by men.
The true God "dwells in you", in your soul if you have been baptized and are free of serious, mortal sin. This is why Jesus established Confession - John 20:23, instructing the Apostles, the first priests.
True repentance and confession of one's sins to God. Catholics have the fullness of faith, they must do more, they must go to Confession. This is the way, because of our "fallen nature" for God to return to our soul. After the Great Warning, everyone who says "yes" will believe in Confession to a priest. It is
Our Lord you are confessing your sins to, the priest is "In Persona Christi."
thanks so much for replying Luna K, I like that we talk...it's very good.
take care,
colbe
John 20:23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.
Colbe, I guess I wasn't firm enough with you. Take your crap and move along. I'm not playing your game. Find another victim.
Originally posted by LunaKat
reply to post by colbe
Colbe I did and do have to be that way with you because you don't take NO for an answer. You are trying to bait me Colbe. I'm not playing your game. This is the kind of crap that made me LEAVE your religion. Trust me when I say you aren't helping your cause.
Where do you get off thinking I owe you or anyone an explanation of what goes on in my spiritual life? I'm not playing your game of who's God is bigger and better. You act like a child Colbe. Thats playground stuff. I participate here but ask no one to accept or convert to my beliefs. You are participating in these discussions to win converts obviously.
I tell you for the final time BACK OFF. And I hope a moderator removes this thread because this is the 4th time I'm telling you no.edit on 12-12-2011 by LunaKat because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LunaKat
reply to post by WarminIndy
Hi WarminIndy, you are a very nice person and under normal circumstances I would tell you the answer to your question. Unfortunately Colbe comes here and has been trying repeatedly to bait and convert me. He is now entering harassment because he doesn't listen to no. So I will not publicly give those reasons. He would have more information on me and I don't want that. Just trust that I did have my reasons and it was 30 years ago and never looked back.
Its nothing against you WarminIndy.
I was just wondering, why did you leave the church after attending a Charismatic one?
It sounds like you were searching and did not find answers. That is sad that the church who claims to have all the answers sometimes do not and people find themselves wanting more than that church can give. I don't think it is the failure of Christianity, but the people who call themselves Christian, and know very little about their Bible.
Originally posted by Gigatronix
I thought this was a discussion forum not Sunday school. Can we dispense with the sermonizing please? If you feel this thread is in poor taste, then move along.