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Eye witnesses claim 'unusual' movement of Israeli missiles

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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Your article shows this, an inoperable bomb-looking object on the back of a civilian truck:



A Jericho looks like this (notice the mobile launch pad):



For some reason I think the article is propaganda. I doubt a Joe Palestinian is stupid enough to mistake object A for missile B when they live in a combat zone.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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I don't think world Gov's have forgotten how terrible nuclear weapons are, however it seems a lot of people have.

If people were so ready to use nukes (The US included) we would of nuked Afghanistan after 9/11. I seriously doubt any nuclear weapons would be used unless it was a last ditch effort to save the nuking parties country.

A war between Iran and Israel wouldn't end in nuclear war unless Iran got very lucky and almost overtook Israel, then, I would get worried.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Oh common, that's beyond playing dumb, even for you.

Notice the huge difference in sizes, the shape of the “war head”, fins, the general shape etc' ?
I know you do. You just enjoy inserting yet another “it's Israeli propaganda” wherever you write here.
By reading many of your other posts, I have no doubt you can tell the difference between a jet's external fuel tank and a ballistic missile.
A jerico missile is considered top secret. Do you honestly think the IDF will transfer a top secret ballistic missile in plain view for everyone to watch ?

Since the report stated that eye witnesses including Jewish ones and including local police showed concerns over this object, I fail to see where I said the Palestinian eye witness is stupid. They were all worried because their lack of knowledge. Yet you were in a hurry to defend a Palestinian.

We already know -since you proudly admitted - you support Hamas and Hezbolla.
There's no real need for you to act stupid in order to defend your agenda or the terrorists out there.
It may work with some laymen, but don't go that road with me mister. I'm way beyond that.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Yeah, sometimes when talking to witnesses for information. Sometimes they tell the truth, and sometimes it's just straight B.S



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
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Sorry, but had to alert that post to the mods. The first part is off topic, and has absolutely NOTHING to do with Sorcha FAIL.

So which is it, on one hand you say I should be banned, and on the other you say the story is probably true. Make up your darn mind!

THINK man. If Israel does go on the offensive against Iran, there would be telltale signs of this they would have a near impossible time hiding from the populations. If they are going to attack, they have to prepare for what might follow. And unless every one of Israel's weapons is already deployed, there WOULD be military equipment movements prior to an attack, as they prepare worst case defenses (like deploying Jericho II and III's) should all hell break loose.


The story is fake.
If Israel was to move it's missiles around, presumably to avoid Iranian missile attacks against them, they wouldn't be moving them in plain sight for anyone to see. Nor would they move them to locations that anyone could so easily access which seems to be the case here.

They would move them to another secure military facility, or training range that is off limits to the public.
These missiles would be under heavy guard, and there would be no way that anyone would be able to get close enough to see them to identify them.

And if they did actually move them, they wouldn't chuck them onto the back of military trucks and leave them exposed on the back for everyone to see. They would conceal them.
This is the middle east we are talking about. Agents from various countries and groups are everywhere on a daily basis gathering information.

Before Israel bombed that nuclear site in progress in Syria, do you think there were witnesses to "unusual" air force movements? No, there weren't. Much less was there any site reporting unusual air force activity.

The media is not going to report on war preparations and mobilizations unless the relevant MoD/DoD wants them to. It's called operational security.
Here you are talking about a strategic nuclear arsenal used as a deterrent for Israel's security against it's hostile Arab neighbours.


If people use a little common sense and stop and actually THINK, they'll soon come to the conclusion that this story is BOGUS.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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Any social networks in Israel taking about this?



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
 


Oh common, that's beyond playing dumb, even for you.

Notice the huge difference in sizes, the shape of the “war head”, fins, the general shape etc' ?
I know you do. You just enjoy inserting yet another “it's Israeli propaganda” wherever you write here.
By reading many of your other posts, I have no doubt you can tell the difference between a jet's external fuel tank and a ballistic missile.


That was my point.


A jerico missile is considered top secret. Do you honestly think the IDF will transfer a top secret ballistic missile in plain view for everyone to watch ?


Well considering the size and design of the launch platform, it would be kind of hard not to move a Jericho around secretly, outside of IDF land that is.


Since the report stated that eye witnesses including Jewish ones and including local police showed concerns over this object, I fail to see where I said the Palestinian eye witness is stupid. They were all worried because their lack of knowledge. Yet you were in a hurry to defend a Palestinian.


Actually I was rushing to defend common sense. My point was that the object in the article's image is clearly not a Jericho. It doesn't even look like a missile. It probably is an external fuel tank.

But do you think that image is actually of what the witness saw?

Back around 2007-2008, Georgia was winding up its propaganda machine against Russia. I specifically remember one of its PR stories that claimed Russian jets were bombing Georgian towns. Their evidence consisted of photos of expended fuel tanks laying on the ground, that they described as "unexploded ordinance" (ironically, also within these images, there were police line tape clearly written in english- odd considering this was in Georgia).

What I'm trying to say is that I've seen examples before in propaganda where fuel tanks are described as bombs/missiles for the sake of propaganda. The image provided of a fuel tank on the back of a truck seems rather dubious and convenient for the sake of discrediting the Palestinian view.

Personally, I doubt that the witness saw a Jericho because as you say, they are top secret. And really, I don't see why the IDF would need to move them through Gaza. But that doesn't mean that the witnesses didn't see some other kind of missiles. I just don't buy the article's claims that this is what they actually saw.


We already know -since you proudly admitted - you support Hamas and Hezbolla.
There's no real need for you to act stupid in order to defend your agenda or the terrorists out there.
It may work with some laymen, but don't go that road with me mister. I'm way beyond that.


Well terrorism is subjective, isn't it? I'm sure there's more people who see your side as the terrorists than your side sees them as.

And "proudly admitted"? Well, Hamas is the democratically elected government of the Palestinian Authority and Hezballah has seats in the Lebannese government. I'm sure that it's easy to paint them as "terrorists" all the way here on the opposite side of the world, but I doubt that it is so black and white for people who actually live in this situation.



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