Was there an atomic war roughly 10,000 years ago?

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by undo

 

You are cherry picking. This quote is not in there:

...(it was) a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendor...

..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.

..The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.

After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
...to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment.

If you ACTUALLY study this you know that.

So of those sentences are from 3 decades apart in the storyline, some of them are completely fabricated, names are completely made up and finally some of the context has been completely changed... for instance in the ACTUAL text the projectile is STOPPED and doesn't explode... or whatever it is the hoax was meant to represent.

So no, the OPs quotes are NOT in the book.

i never said that one was in there, i said the ones i referred to were in there, and you said they weren't (Because you thought i was referring to the french guys incandescent power of the universe thing and didn't read either of my posts). i even said in response to your post, that i think the french guys that made up the incandescent bomb verses, were likely doing so to distract skeptics from actually reading the real text

then i gave real text examples and you then try to say i'm quoting french guys incandescent verses. and when i prove i'm not quoting french guys incandescent verses, you claim i'm cherry picking and to prove your point you repost french guys incandescent bomb verses again.
lol

and if THAT weren't bad enough, you then denounce the french verses, but don't ever admit your critique of the real verses is wrong, so now anyone reading that that hasnt bothered to actually read the info i posted, will think the mahabharata was written by some modern day frenchmen to sell books and will quote the frenchmen verses as proof.

let this be a lesson in actually reading what the other guy is saying before responding

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by amlight

 

You think incorrectly, this thread is a HOAX thread.

You really must love hoaxes then...
There are like 5-6 post of yours in a row, talking to yourself as you usually do.
Guess you were here 10k years ago to say with authority there was no...Nvm, you are not really worth the effort of mocking you even...

reply to post by Saltarello


Spend your time clicking links and learning, instead of projecting an imagined superiority onto others.

As myself and others have said, the quotes in the OP are not genuine. And there's no evidence of radiation at the sights or blast damage on the artefacts.

Or just continue to live in a bubble where you think you know it all, despite the evidence I and others present. Actual evidence, not fairly tales invented by conspiracy theorists to sell books to clever folks like yourself.

Could the ancient fathers have been working with Alien technology? Were there Aliens demonstrating what could happen if certain rulers did not comply with the agenda? Are the secrets still honored to this day and only verbal understanding passed down?

Think about the modern bombs that act like nukes but do not leave the waste behind. I think it is Russia which has them.

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Saltarello

 

Spend your time clicking links and learning, instead of projecting an imagined superiority onto others.

As myself and others have said, the quotes in the OP are not genuine. And there's no evidence of radiation at the sights or blast damage on the artefacts.

Or just continue to live in a bubble where you think you know it all, despite the evidence I and others present. Actual evidence, not fairly tales invented by conspiracy theorists to sell books to clever folks like yourself.

problem: the mahabharata, the REAL book, the actual text, not the french verses, says many similar things to the french verses. the french verses are a distraction. you're trying to defend the validity of the actual texts by proving the french verses are inaccurate, yet when you are given real verses, you try to turn them into french verses too, even though they aren't. so are you really here to defend the truth as far as the mahabharata is concerned, or are you here to confuse and obfuscate things?

reply to post by undo


That's not what happened.

At any rate, I know the book says crazy #, but it certainly doesn't say anything approaching what the OPs quote says. There's nothing I've seen that looks like nuclear war.

The entire point of the French verses was to make the case for a ancient nuclear war. That was why they hoaxed those verses the way they did. This thread is about the nuclear war "possibly" described in those verses.

My point was never that the book didn't exist or isn't wacky, but that there's not any descriptions of nuclear war (which is why the French guys faked some). If there was, there would be need need for the hoaxed verses.

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by undo

 

That's not what happened.

At any rate, I know the book says crazy #, but it certainly doesn't say anything approaching what the OPs quote says. There's nothing I've seen that looks like nuclear war.

The entire point of the French verses was to make the case for a ancient nuclear war. That was why they hoaxed those verses the way they did. This thread is about the nuclear war "possibly" described in those verses.

My point was never that the book didn't exist or isn't wacky, but that there's not any descriptions of nuclear war (which is why the French guys faked some). If there was, there would be need need for the hoaxed verses.

each generation of our dispensation has more scientific information than the previous one (if you don't count the dark ages where info was hoarded and anyone who attempted to decipher the clues was attacked...hmm...seems somehow familiar). as a result, the comparisons between what the ancient texts say, and what we have access to, both scientifically and etymologically, changes how we view the meanings of the texts.

even translations tend to do this, as they are using words and concepts they have available to them at the time of the translation. so if some translator, 500 years ago, reads the text in its original language and sees references to a sky going device, capable of piercing holes thru armor of other flying things, and references to extremely loud noises accompanied by birds freaking out, they used words like dart, thunder, and so forth to describe the event.

you will see this in all the old translations because though they witnessed incredible things, their vocabulary and scientific acumen suffered. we don't have quite as many disadvantages in that regard, so you're going to see more, not less, such examples. we are coming full circle, back to that point in time where we are as capable as they were, to fly in the sky, shoot "darts" capable of finding cloaked objects, and etc. and yes, cloaking tech exists, if you weren't aware of that.

this is what bugs me about common skepticism. it insists on evidence and claims ancient texts are fantastical and not realistic, yet there are literally thousands of examples of advanced technology described in all the worlds oldest texts.

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious





Just pointing out two of your own 'quotes' back at you right out of your own mouth.


Quote no 1....."read this carefully:"

Quote no 2......"Simply repeating that you're right, without EVER providing ANY evidence

does'nt make you right"



Perhaps YOU should practice what you preach?

reply to post by eletheia


it's even possible there's more than one translation of these old verses, and one of the translations sounds more like what the french guys said. i haven't read all their theories yet, but i do know i made the effort to find the references they listed and couldn't find them. however, while searching i found all kinds of other amazing things, and considered it a fruitful endeavor, after all.

lol one of the other gods in the story is complaining that Ghatotkacha is cheating, because he's using a blazing illusion that cloaks his ship so that it's invisible. (rules of the tournament: NO CLOAKING DEVICES!)



but that's okay, his opponent launches something like a heat seeking missile. woops. this verse proved that the loud sounds were not the result of a meteor impact but a missile that wasn't falling to earth, rather it launched into the air, found its target and kept going up into the night sky. unless they launched meteors from the ground, with the ability to find cloaked targets, i'm going with the theory that it wasn't a meteor.

reminds me a bit of this scene


there are alot of people who are completely clueless about mahabharata, in fact, even after pouring over its pages for many hours,i know for a fact, i've only scratched the surface. i recall a critic of the text claming they couldn't possibly be a space-fairing civilization because they knew nothing about the planets beyond the sun and moon. took me like 2 minutes to find a reference to saturn in their texts. lol

reply to post by eletheia


I may have clicked reply to the wrong person. D'oh! Don't think that was aimed at you.

If I did, I apologise.

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious



You state 'I am dismissive of hoaxes'


Well correct me if i am wrong, but i have not seen ANY hard evidence provided by you

on this thread that offers ANY PROOF as to it being a hoax.

Infact i would go as far as to say you have contributed nothing of substance or value to this

thread below are a few of your negative comments.


# All this is BS

# From which this HOAX was derived

# The history of this HOAX

# The whole thread now needs to be moved to HOAX

# The OP is a HOAX

# Worse yet,the text is fake. So...

# Go back and read the thread

# It's not a mistranslation it's a fabrication

# the discription is a HOAX

# You think incorrectly, this thread is a HOAX thread


Not much PROOF or substance in that lot, and all taken off your posts

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


Are you promoting your own book?

Hindu scholars have testified that those passages do exist, just like the passages describing Vimanas, flying chariots used by the Gods, and some men to whom the Gods gave the technology of the Vimanas...

reply to post by eletheia


All he has done is make claims, but he has provided no real evidence except a book, which could be his, that goes against what several hindu scholars say can be found in the Vedas..

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


No scholars have said that.

I've provided a link to the book, go find it yourself.

I've provided links to exactly where SOME of the hoaxed bits came from and the original place the hoax was published.

As of yet, even though you EASILY could, if they existed, no one has shown the OPs hoaxed "verses" to be in the actual text. Simply claiming some unnamed scholars say they do isn't really proof.

And no, it's not my book. It's just a very clear explanation of what happened, so it;s a handy reference.

reply to post by eletheia


Did you ACTUALLY click any of the links I provided?

Try that. Then after you've done that, come back and say that my claims are baseless.

Better yet, go find the OPs text in the original book. It's widely available.

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


If these ancient super weapons didn't exit in the stories from India, then why did Hitler spend so much time and efoort looking for them?

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
If they exist they'll be here:
www.sacred-texts.com...

Sacred texts... good idea

Ancient City Found, Irradiated From Atomic Blast

Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous. A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built. For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region. Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people.

www.sacred-texts.com...

A HISTORIAN COMMENTS

Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that Indian sacred writings are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons. An ancient battle is described in the Drona Parva, a section of the Mahabharata.

"The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees," says Ganguli."Instead of mushroom clouds, the writer describes a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds as consecutive openings of giant parasols. There are comments about the contamination of food and people's hair falling out."

www.sacred-texts.com...

ARCHEOLOGICAL INVESTIGATION PROVIDES INFORMATION

Archeologist Francis Taylor says that etchings in some nearby temples he has managed to translate suggest that they prayed to be spared from the great light that was coming to lay ruin to the city.

"It's so mind-boggling to imagine that some civilization had nuclear technology before we did. "The radioactive ash adds credibility to the ancient Indian records that describe atomic warfare." Construction has halted while the five member team conducts the investigation. The foreman of the project is Lee Hundley, who pioneered the
investigation after the high level of radiation was discovered.

www.sacred-texts.com...

So there ya go Sacred text has it... radioactive ash found... names of actual people to trace... and the part of the book it is in

What more you need?

So now you can, as you said, shut up and delete your account

But I doubt you will

Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


If these ancient super weapons didn't exit in the stories from India, then why did Hitler spend so much time and efoort looking for them?

That's a good point. Why did an insane maniac responsible for the murder of millions who believed that white skinned blue eyed blond haird people were a super race spend so much time looking for it

The credibility of Hitler makes me want to drop all common sense and just run with that validation

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious





There are many links provided by others on this thread. So why do you assume that your

links are any MORE VALID than any one else's?